Is this a good £750 pc build?

[Chrispy]

I'm looking to build decent mid range PC for around £750. I prefer to play games at 1080p with a high refresh rate. Here are the parts:

CPU: ryzen 5 3600
Mobo: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB PULSE
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case
PSU: SeaSonic 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX

My main concern if all the parts are compatible. PC part picker says the 3600 might not be compatable with B450M motherboards. I don't have another CPU to use to install the drivers. Everything needs to work out of the box. Would a ryzen 5 2600 bottleneck the 5600xt in CPU intensive games? Another thing is: I've never built a Micro ATX system before so I'm if that PSU fit in the case.

My final concern is how future proof the system is. I won't be upgrading this for at least another 4 years. I know this card will have absolutely no trouble running current gen games at 1080p but I'm so sure about next gen. Maybe it's worth changing to a 5700xt to have a chance of playing 9th gen games at decent frame rates?

Sorry for all the questions, I just want to get this right XD. Any replies would be greatly appreciated :)

[Omega]

Looks awesome. I do recommend you to bump the PSU up to something of higher quality if possible, something like a Seasonic Focus series or Corsair RM.

The board should be shipped with an updated BIOS, Zen 2 has been out for nearly a year now so I am pretty sure most retailers will have long since sold off their old Zen+ boards. If you want to be sure you are buying a board with an up-to-date BIOS which supports the 3600 gat any MSI board which is branded as MAX.

[Snow]

Check MSI motherboards with "MAX" in their names, it means exactly what you need - Zen2 support. I wonder why other manufacturers didn't make it just as obvious.
What comes to CPU bottleneck - even 9900k will bottleneck 5600 XT in old games and e-sports titles, but this isn't something to overthink. R5 3600 is a good CPU and will provide awesome performance in all games, and that's what matters.
There isn't that much performance difference between 5600 XT and 5700 XT, and 9th gen games will likely end up using ray tracing a lot, which both cards lack, so you're not going to run max settings with either. But if you don't mind few features turned off - then yes, 5600 XT might be able to let you play through the whole generation, just not on ultra.
Oh, and the case. MasterBox Q300L has enough space for any standard PSU, and it's actually even listed on their website as a feature, "Minimized Dimension with ATX PSU Support". No issues there.

[_I_]

amd has horrible drivers atm
go with a 1660s or better if possible

many am4 boards can update bios without a cpu
look up its manual to make sure it can

[r.linder]

Цитата допису Chrispy:

I'm looking to build decent mid range PC for around £750. I prefer to play games at 1080p with a high refresh rate. Here are the parts:

CPU: ryzen 5 3600
Mobo: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB PULSE
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case
PSU: SeaSonic 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX

My main concern if all the parts are compatible. PC part picker says the 3600 might not be compatable with B450M motherboards. I don't have another CPU to use to install the drivers. Everything needs to work out of the box. Would a ryzen 5 2600 bottleneck the 5600xt in CPU intensive games? Another thing is: I've never built a Micro ATX system before so I'm if that PSU fit in the case.

My final concern is how future proof the system is. I won't be upgrading this for at least another 4 years. I know this card will have absolutely no trouble running current gen games at 1080p but I'm so sure about next gen. Maybe it's worth changing to a 5700xt to have a chance of playing 9th gen games at decent frame rates?

Sorry for all the questions, I just want to get this right XD. Any replies would be greatly appreciated :)

Looks good, but as Omega said, I would get a better PSU.

Цитата допису Snow:

Check MSI motherboards with "MAX" in their names, it means exactly what you need - Zen2 support. I wonder why other manufacturers didn't make it just as obvious.
What comes to CPU bottleneck - even 9900k will bottleneck 5600 XT in old games and e-sports titles, but this isn't something to overthink. R5 3600 is a good CPU and will provide awesome performance in all games, and that's what matters.
There isn't that much performance difference between 5600 XT and 5700 XT, and 9th gen games will likely end up using ray tracing a lot, which both cards lack, so you're not going to run max settings with either. But if you don't mind few features turned off - then yes, 5600 XT might be able to let you play through the whole generation, just not on ultra.
Oh, and the case. MasterBox Q300L has enough space for any standard PSU, and it's actually even listed on their website as a feature, "Minimized Dimension with ATX PSU Support". No issues there.

It's probably been long enough that B450 motherboards manufactured recently should come with a later BIOS. If not, I'm pretty sure some retailers will update it for you if you ask.

Цитата допису _I_:

amd has horrible drivers atm
go with a 1660s or better if possible

many am4 boards can update bios without a cpu
look up its manual to make sure it can

90% of the issues with Adrenalin 2020 have been fixed, so that's not really true. I haven't had a single issue since driver version 20.2.2. The drivers are fine now, for the most part, and I've crashed less with a 5700 XT than I did with an RTX 2080.

Many mistake Q-Flash+ for simple Q-Flash. Flashing without a CPU on a Gigabyte motherboard uses a Q-Flash+ button, and a USB port with the function, and few of Gigabyte's boards have it.
Regular Q-Flash that pretty much every Gigabyte motherboard supports still requires a CPU because you need to POST to even access it.

The B450M-DS3H has Q-Flash, but not Q-Flash+.

[Red™]

Цитата допису _I_:

amd has horrible drivers atm
go with a 1660s or better if possible

many am4 boards can update bios without a cpu
look up its manual to make sure it can

Driver are fine. It’s fixed.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

i recommend doing some research on google / youTube to know what is the current state of AMD GPU drivers.
You will never know the truth by asking in the forums, AMD fanboys will ALWAYS say AMD has the BEST DRIVER IN THE WORLD 200% sure, no matter what.
And Nvidia fanboys will say Nvidia is the best. It's rule from the beginning of time. And it will be like that forever.

So do your own research. Here is one video-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptDRxBxwUfU

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t98cyk

[Chrispy]

Цитата допису Rumpelcrutchskin:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t98cyk

Thanks for the link. Just wondering, is there any particular reason you picked that motherboard? I found the MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX which offers all the features I need for £40 cheaper. The only real difference, for me, is that the more expensive board includes more SATA slots but I'm not too fussed about that.

[r.linder]

Цитата допису Chrispy:

Цитата допису Rumpelcrutchskin:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t98cyk

Thanks for the link. Just wondering, is there any particular reason you picked that motherboard? I found the MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX which offers all the features I need for £40 cheaper. The only real difference, for me, is that the more expensive board includes more SATA slots but I'm not too fussed about that.

If you're on that tight of a budget or use a case that doesn't have many slots for drives, then the PRO-VDH MAX is fine. Still has a 32MB BIOS chip, while non-MAX boards, even X470s, only have 16MB chips.
So MAX boards should actually get software support for Gen4, which was removed due to BIOS chip capacity issues.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Цитата допису Chrispy:

Цитата допису Rumpelcrutchskin:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t98cyk

Thanks for the link. Just wondering, is there any particular reason you picked that motherboard? I found the MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX which offers all the features I need for £40 cheaper. The only real difference, for me, is that the more expensive board includes more SATA slots but I'm not too fussed about that.

MAX boards are compatible with Ryzen 3000 series out of the box with already updated BIOS and this is one of the better quality B450 boards you can get with decent VRM shielding.

[Sapphire_Nitro]

i would get a somewhat better motherboard with higher chip class cuz then the sound is also better and you dont need a AMP for good headphones while gaming:P