Why does Nvidia's recording have no performance impact?

[オナニー]

I wanted to record my own gameplay for memories sake but I find OBS hits my cpu harder than I feel it should because comparatively, I feel no difference when using Nvidia's solution but there's massive usage of cpu when using OBS and the resulting input lag.

I dont understand why theres such a disparity here since I am using Nvenc in OBS so shouldnt it just offload the work to the gpu?

The theory I could come up with is that this is a laptop without a mux so specifying which gpu obs uses would impact what it could record & that somehow affects performance?

[Wichtelman]

may i ask before somebody suggests anything that you provide your system setup data?
btw there are guides for obs and it is possible that your settings are wrong...

[emoticorpse]

I think gpus just have a much more optimized internal hardware configuration for encoding. I don't get it either, but I'm just glad it's true. Their encoding makes cpu encoding look handicapped.

I heard that cpu encoding is technically better which probably is true, but for the simple visual comparisons I do, I just can't tell the difference. Plus the file sizes are unbeatable in some situations. I've noticed though cpu encoding gives better file sizes for certain things while gpu encoding offers better file sizes for other types of captures.

But, I'd probably notice if I was encoding profesionally or something.

Also, yeah what cpu do you have? If it's a weaker cpu it will get hit harder than a stronger one.

We need some numbers here otherwise we're just guessing blindly/assuming to your situation here.

[Cathulhu]

nVidia uses CUDA cores to record gameplay. Same as OBS could, it you'd configure it to use nVenc instead of software encoder.

[オナニー]

sure ill just dxdiag stuff here

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System Information
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Time of this report: 5/5/2023, 20:51:26

Operating System: Windows 11 Home Single Language 64-bit (10.0, Build 22621) (22621.ni_release.220506-1250)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP
System Model: HP Pavilion Gaming Laptop 15-cx0xxx
BIOS: F.21 (type: UEFI)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8300H CPU @ 2.30GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.3GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16274MB RAM
Page File: 16688MB used, 15456MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Supported
DirectX Database Version: 1.4.6
DxDiag Version: 10.00.22621.0001 64bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) UHD Graphics Family
DAC type: Internal
Device Type: Full Device (POST)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3E9B&SUBSYS_8478103C&REV_00
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 8264 MB
Dedicated Memory: 128 MB
Shared Memory: 8136 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
HDR Support: Not Supported
Display Topology: Internal

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Type: Full Device
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C8D&SUBSYS_8478103C&REV_A1
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 10112 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1976 MB
Shared Memory: 8136 MB
Current Mode: Unknown
HDR Support: Unknown
Display Topology: Unknown
Display Color Space: Unknown
Color Primaries: Unknown
Display Luminance: Unknown
Driver Name: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvhmig.inf_amd64_eba38934c212a181\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvhmig.inf_amd64_eba38934c212a181\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvhmig.inf_amd64_eba38934c212a181\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvhmig.inf_amd64_eba38934c212a181\nvldumdx.dll
Driver File Version: 31.00.0015.3141 (English)
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3141
DDI Version: 12
Feature Levels: 12_1,12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1

tldr; intel i5 8300h; 16gb ram; intel uhd 630; gtx 1050 2gb; yes I am using nvenc in obs, fresh installed on a fresh os. It bogs down my system way harder than it should.

[Wichtelman]

which games do you try to stream?

[オナニー]

Any game, racing, cyberpunk, hell even 2D platformers. The only reason I stopped using Nvidias recording was having the audio eventually starting to desync but now I realise something is messed with obs

[A&A]

It depends on what encoder format you are recording.
Software X264 is using mainly the cpu.

[Wichtelman]

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Any game, racing, cyberpunk, hell even 2D platformers. The only reason I stopped using Nvidias recording was having the audio eventually starting to desync but now I realise something is messed with obs

well your laptop is too weak to stream demanding games... cyberpunk should be about 20-25 fps on low settings... that said gpu encoding should work on low demanding games with a gtx 1050 but idk how it is with laptops exactly... did you watch a guide on how to setup obs with gpu encoding?

[emoticorpse]

Can you post screenshots of your obs configuration?

[オナニー]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971950496

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971950806

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971951048

Ive done nothing but switch to nvenc

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It's not realistic to think you will be able to run games well and record or live-stream on a GTX 1050.

[emoticorpse]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Toyota Celica GT-Four 2.0L I4 T:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971950496

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971950806

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2971951048

Ive done nothing but switch to nvenc

It should be at simple view then I think shouldn't it?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You're also recording at 1920x1080
Hmm yea that's never going to run smooth on that system.

With your specs, you're better off using Geforce Experience + ShadowPlay and have it record @ 1280x720