I undervolted RTX 4070 Ti kept same core clock, added +1000 memory clock - still lost ~7fps, is that normal?
Hi,

My GPU is Asus TUF RTX 4070 Ti (OC edition). It is emitting terrible high pitched coil whine so I've decided to undervolt it to decrease coil whine. Went from 1.100v to 0.950v (that's the lowest stable for me in game).

Like I said I kept same core clock and added memory clock +1000, and yet I'm still losing ~7-8fps in game. Is that suppose to happen or am I missing something?
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It isn't stable at that clock anymore, that's the issue, it can't actually sustain it because you reduced its voltage too much for that frequency.

In the vast majority of cases, Ampere and Lovelace cards are limited by voltage because NVIDIA imposed heavy limitations to protect their cards. 40 series cards in particular can push pretty hard when voltage and current limits are bypassed, though the gains from that are so minor that it isn't worth it, which is why the 4090 ended up being a 450W card.
Отредактировано r.linder; 4 мая. 2023 г. в 14:40
Why are people keeping gpus with coil whine!?!?! Just accept its dysfunctional and send it back. Theres been a few posts on this recently and it was Nvidia as well.
Отредактировано Rod; 4 мая. 2023 г. в 15:12
Автор сообщения: Rod
Why are people keeping gpus with coil whine!?!?! Just accept its dysfunctional and send it back. Theres been a few posts on this recently and it was Nvidia as well.
Coil whine is not a defect. Pretty much any electronical device whines, some more than others.
Автор сообщения: Rod
Why are people keeping gpus with coil whine!?!?! Just accept its dysfunctional and send it back. Theres been a few posts on this recently and it was Nvidia as well.
Many companies don't count coil whine as a defect because it's extremely common for electronics, almost every device has it to some degree.

If they kicked out every card with coil whine, there would always be video card shortages and they'd make no money.
Отредактировано r.linder; 4 мая. 2023 г. в 17:49
Автор сообщения: 尺.し工几句ヨ尺
Автор сообщения: Rod
Why are people keeping gpus with coil whine!?!?! Just accept its dysfunctional and send it back. Theres been a few posts on this recently and it was Nvidia as well.
Many companies don't count coil whine as a defect because it's extremely common for electronics, almost every device has it to some degree.

If they kicked out every card with coil whine, there would always be video card shortages and they'd make no money.

I never even heard coil whine i think. It's like Bigfoot, I hear about em all the time. Also, I do believe it. Not calling you a liar.
Отредактировано emoticorpse; 4 мая. 2023 г. в 18:01
Автор сообщения: Rod
Why are people keeping gpus with coil whine!?!?! Just accept its dysfunctional and send it back. Theres been a few posts on this recently and it was Nvidia as well.
I just tried contacting ASUS support and got a negative answer - apparently coil while is not considered as defect according to ASUS.

In fact, from what they've told me (in polite version) - your GPU could be whining like a damn fighter jet and it wouldn't be RMA reason. ASUS support even consider coil whine as a plus - by them coil whine is a sign that inductors / coils are working properly as intended.

I'm never buying ASUS GPUs again. F them.
Stories like this make me appreciate even more how EVGA accommodated me when I went through that episode with coil whine on the GTX 970s. I initially came away from that scenario soured, not particularly towards EVGA but just in general, because I still needed a solution to my need of a graphics card. Over time I only appreciated more what they did. I doubt Asus/MSI/Gigabyte back then would have done that for me.

Yes, it's a fact that coil whine "always" happens. It's a byproduct of a part vibrating which will produce sound. Humans have a limited hearing range though. We don't hear everything to the same extent, whether it is there or not. There's a lot of things that produce sound (or radiation) that we don't hear (or feel). Stating that "it happens" doesn't mean all extents of it are equivalent or acceptable and I'm disheartened at how this reasoning has been used to justify it. Not every electronic device sounds like its screeching while operating to its capabilities. Far from it. So why has this became so acceptable on some products?

If my graphics card can't play Minecraft at sub-60 FPS with v-sync on without sounding like my ears are being screeched out then there's something very wrong with what the market and industry considers acceptable. That's a far cry from "you might hear it a few seconds on some splash screen with a logo or menus with hundreds/thousands of FPS".
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Автор сообщения: Rod
Why are people keeping gpus with coil whine!?!?! Just accept its dysfunctional and send it back. Theres been a few posts on this recently and it was Nvidia as well.
I just tried contacting ASUS support and got a negative answer - apparently coil while is not considered as defect according to ASUS.

In fact, from what they've told me (in polite version) - your GPU could be whining like a damn fighter jet and it wouldn't be RMA reason. ASUS support even consider coil whine as a plus - by them coil whine is a sign that inductors / coils are working properly as intended.

I'm never buying ASUS GPUs again. F them.

Thier trying it on. I have sympathy and guess being American you lack the protection we have here. I wouldnt tolerate a pc that simulates tinnitus. Thier lying its a defect and they wont admit to using sub par parts. I only ever had two in 20yrs whine and both went back.


I wouldnt even talk to Asus, In the UK there is 14 days to return and i would return it under my rights and buy another. The retailer cant say no if they do then its time to contact Mastercard. Ive never had to go beyond this ive had retailers tell me they cant help and after Mastercard called refunded 600 pounds on a 2yr old GPU.


Also by Asus logic all my GPU must of been bad and i sent the two good ones back. Lol Asus are trash as a brand i dont buy thier products. Ive tried two of thier monitors and both had an issue where a power off wiped the OSD. And i asked once for a bios feature which an Asus employee told me there was no such feature. The next day a Gigabyte engineer sent me a custom bios. I think Asus are as a brand bad overpriced and stupid employees.
Отредактировано Rod; 5 мая. 2023 г. в 10:31
Автор сообщения: Omega
Автор сообщения: Rod
Why are people keeping gpus with coil whine!?!?! Just accept its dysfunctional and send it back. Theres been a few posts on this recently and it was Nvidia as well.
Coil whine is not a defect. Pretty much any electronical device whines, some more than others.

I honestly dont have anything like coilwhine but strangely my speakers make exacly the same sound :D
I read that was because of the usp ports higher the fps more annoying the sound is. I plug them on front pannel and that fixed but still its a weird thing
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I just tried contacting ASUS support and got a negative answer - apparently coil while is not considered as defect according to ASUS.

In fact, from what they've told me (in polite version) - your GPU could be whining like a damn fighter jet and it wouldn't be RMA reason. ASUS support even consider coil whine as a plus - by them coil whine is a sign that inductors / coils are working properly as intended.

I'm never buying ASUS GPUs again. F them.

Thier trying it on. I have sympathy and guess being American you lack the protection we have here. I wouldnt tolerate a pc that simulates tinnitus. Thier lying its a defect and they wont admit to using sub par parts. I only ever had two in 20yrs whine and both went back.


I wouldnt even talk to Asus, In the UK there is 14 days to return and i would return it under my rights and buy another. The retailer cant say no if they do then its time to contact Mastercard. Ive never had to go beyond this ive had retailers tell me they cant help and after Mastercard called refunded 600 pounds on a 2yr old GPU.


Also by Asus logic all my GPU must of been bad and i sent the two good ones back. Lol Asus are trash as a brand i dont buy thier products. Ive tried two of thier monitors and both had an issue where a power off wiped the OSD. And i asked once for a bios feature which an Asus employee told me there was no such feature. The next day a Gigabyte engineer sent me a custom bios. I think Asus are as a brand bad overpriced and stupid employees.
And what to do if there's more than 14 days past? Or lets say there wasnt a coil whine, or I didnt notice it at first because I wasn't gaming and after a month or so I launched game and noticed quite loud coil whine? Is that the reason for RMA? Either ASUS or retailer
Автор сообщения: Sonny Fontaine
Автор сообщения: Rod

Thier trying it on. I have sympathy and guess being American you lack the protection we have here. I wouldnt tolerate a pc that simulates tinnitus. Thier lying its a defect and they wont admit to using sub par parts. I only ever had two in 20yrs whine and both went back.


I wouldnt even talk to Asus, In the UK there is 14 days to return and i would return it under my rights and buy another. The retailer cant say no if they do then its time to contact Mastercard. Ive never had to go beyond this ive had retailers tell me they cant help and after Mastercard called refunded 600 pounds on a 2yr old GPU.


Also by Asus logic all my GPU must of been bad and i sent the two good ones back. Lol Asus are trash as a brand i dont buy thier products. Ive tried two of thier monitors and both had an issue where a power off wiped the OSD. And i asked once for a bios feature which an Asus employee told me there was no such feature. The next day a Gigabyte engineer sent me a custom bios. I think Asus are as a brand bad overpriced and stupid employees.
And what to do if there's more than 14 days past? Or lets say there wasnt a coil whine, or I didnt notice it at first because I wasn't gaming and after a month or so I launched game and noticed quite loud coil whine? Is that the reason for RMA? Either ASUS or retailer

The problem in UK is after 14 days you can not return it for no reason, And now would be sent to Asus for an RMA. An Asus refusal would then be a customer retailer dispute and would need the creditcard to get involved.

In the UK theres no timeframe for a later developing fault it says reasonable and is open to interpretation. I argue 6 years and have seen the figure quoted. Get the bank involved and inform the retailer you want it swapped or refunded and will dispute if needed.
Отредактировано Rod; 5 мая. 2023 г. в 12:54
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