Just to debunk the Max Payne Myth.
Windows 11 is not the problem, Max Payne has issues with AMD CPU's from ZEN 2 onwards, I have bought the game to give an objective analysis on a Ryzen based Windows 11 build.

The game runs fine except the CPU fails to work with the JPEG system in the game.

It is also noted on PCGAMINGWIKI.

Video is detailed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ0Eo8YhW7k
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Skkooomer Lord 2. mai 2023 kl. 5.57 
Opprinnelig skrevet av nullable:
I didn't realize this was a burning question on the general forums. Maybe try posting on the Max Payne forums?
It is an excuse for the Windows 7 babies.
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Opprinnelig skrevet av nullable:
I didn't realize this was a burning question on the general forums. Maybe try posting on the Max Payne forums?
It is an excuse for the Windows 7 babies.
ikr indeed
Skkooomer Lord 2. mai 2023 kl. 6.19 
Opprinnelig skrevet av nullable:
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It is an excuse for the Windows 7 babies.

Well relying on a twenty year old game to bolster an argument isn't much of an excuse or an argument.

At this point anyone looking for a list of games that requires Windows 7 to prove their point doesn't care about reality. They're just massaging their egos.
I like to destroy egos, helps people rebuild a more real version of themselves.
RasaNova 2. mai 2023 kl. 6.19 
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Opprinnelig skrevet av nullable:
I didn't realize this was a burning question on the general forums. Maybe try posting on the Max Payne forums?
It is an excuse for the Windows 7 babies.
Not quite right, kinda the opposite actually. It was an example of a game that doesn't run in win10, that ALSO didn't run in windows 7, at least not without a lot of effort.
Thermal Lance 2. mai 2023 kl. 6.44 
Max Payne works great on Linux. :3
Skkooomer Lord 2. mai 2023 kl. 6.45 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Thermal Lance:
Max Payne works great on Linux. :3
Works great on OG XBOX and emulation too through PCSX2.
Thermal Lance 2. mai 2023 kl. 6.45 
Opprinnelig skrevet av RasaNova:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Saturn in Capricorn:
It is an excuse for the Windows 7 babies.
Not quite right, kinda the opposite actually. It was an example of a game that doesn't run in win10, that ALSO didn't run in windows 7, at least not without a lot of effort.
Max Payne works well on 10. I played it before I switched to Linux. Applying compatibility mode and downloading JUST the fixed d3d8.dll does the trick.

Like, if that's a lot of effort for you, I don't know what to tell you.
RasaNova 2. mai 2023 kl. 7.56 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Thermal Lance:
Opprinnelig skrevet av RasaNova:
Not quite right, kinda the opposite actually. It was an example of a game that doesn't run in win10, that ALSO didn't run in windows 7, at least not without a lot of effort.
Max Payne works well on 10. I played it before I switched to Linux. Applying compatibility mode and downloading JUST the fixed d3d8.dll does the trick.

Like, if that's a lot of effort for you, I don't know what to tell you.
1st paragraph was actually helpful so thanks for that. 2nd paragraph was typical consescending bait, but hopefully it helped you feel smart.

I'll try it tonight with Win10. When I tried to get it working in Win7, I gave up after attempting several of the suggested "fixes." Maybe it'll be an example of a game that actually works better in win10!
Thermal Lance 2. mai 2023 kl. 8.06 
Opprinnelig skrevet av RasaNova:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Thermal Lance:
Max Payne works well on 10. I played it before I switched to Linux. Applying compatibility mode and downloading JUST the fixed d3d8.dll does the trick.

Like, if that's a lot of effort for you, I don't know what to tell you.
1st paragraph was actually helpful so thanks for that. 2nd paragraph was typical consescending bait, but hopefully it helped you feel smart.

I'll try it tonight with Win10. When I tried to get it working in Win7, I gave up after attempting several of the suggested "fixes." Maybe it'll be an example of a game that actually works better in win10!
Well, it's true.

As for the required fix. Take a look at pcgamewiki for the DLL.
Crashed 2. mai 2023 kl. 8.36 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Thermal Lance:
Opprinnelig skrevet av RasaNova:
1st paragraph was actually helpful so thanks for that. 2nd paragraph was typical consescending bait, but hopefully it helped you feel smart.

I'll try it tonight with Win10. When I tried to get it working in Win7, I gave up after attempting several of the suggested "fixes." Maybe it'll be an example of a game that actually works better in win10!
Well, it's true.

As for the required fix. Take a look at pcgamewiki for the DLL.
Since the video got deleted, here's the PCGW article: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Max_Payne#JPEG_errors_on_AMD_Zen_2-based_CPUs

Very likely this could be a CPU defect like when Skylake CPUs were causing SecuROM to have errors.
Thermal Lance 2. mai 2023 kl. 8.39 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Crashed:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Thermal Lance:
Well, it's true.

As for the required fix. Take a look at pcgamewiki for the DLL.
Since the video got deleted, here's the PCGW article: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Max_Payne#JPEG_errors_on_AMD_Zen_2-based_CPUs

Very likely this could be a CPU defect like when Skylake CPUs were causing SecuROM to have errors.
Could be. I don't own one of these CPUs. Kinda wish I did, I love trying hard to get crap to work.
Crashed 2. mai 2023 kl. 8.41 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Thermal Lance:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Crashed:
Since the video got deleted, here's the PCGW article: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Max_Payne#JPEG_errors_on_AMD_Zen_2-based_CPUs

Very likely this could be a CPU defect like when Skylake CPUs were causing SecuROM to have errors.
Could be. I don't own one of these CPUs. Kinda wish I did, I love trying hard to get crap to work.
The Skylake issue was fixed with a microcode update in BIOS updates.
retro_Ed 2. mai 2023 kl. 8.43 
Steam Deck uses new AMD apu. Jpeg error is also preventing game running.

It can be fixed going to desktop and using HEX editor and changing three values it fixes game.

Edit:
Same fix also for ANY Windows using Ryzen 3xxx series or newer. (New Intel cpu unknown)
Sist redigert av retro_Ed; 2. mai 2023 kl. 8.53
Bad 💀 Motha 2. mai 2023 kl. 14.28 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Crashed:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Thermal Lance:
Could be. I don't own one of these CPUs. Kinda wish I did, I love trying hard to get crap to work.
The Skylake issue was fixed with a microcode update in BIOS updates.

Yes that was definitely fixed and it didn't take them long to fix that. I remember this one cause I remember doing new builds for clients and we couldn't get the retail disc STALKER games to work and were stumped as to why. Then seeing online about SecuROM issue with Skylake stuff. After the bios fix the games installed and ran normally
RasaNova 2. mai 2023 kl. 15.24 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Thermal Lance:
Opprinnelig skrevet av RasaNova:
Not quite right, kinda the opposite actually. It was an example of a game that doesn't run in win10, that ALSO didn't run in windows 7, at least not without a lot of effort.
Max Payne works well on 10. I played it before I switched to Linux. Applying compatibility mode and downloading JUST the fixed d3d8.dll does the trick.

Like, if that's a lot of effort for you, I don't know what to tell you.
For what its worth just installed the game in win10 and went to the first batch file dl I saw in the guides section and had the game running in 5 mintues.

So yep a good example of how maybe win10 isn't so much worse than win7 after all for running old games...
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