AtlasOS just launched

[r.linder]

Atlas is a tool that modifies Windows, removing a lot of the bloatware garbage that Microsoft spews all over your system in their updates, making things genuinely more responsive, and making Windows better. It's currently only supported for Windows 10 22H2, they're still working on Windows 11.
I tried it myself on my HTPC that's using an i5-3470, it does what it set out to do, and it works well. So users that dislike some of what Microsoft is doing with Windows, but doesn't want to go through the hassle of Linux, has another option.

Source: https://atlasos.net

LTT's video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7CIkZcWYE

[Karumati]

You don’t need atlas os if you upgrading pc every 4-5 years

[Omega]

There are major risks associated with this. You are not getting any updates, and the system will become unstable

Just run Linux or BSD instead of going to stupid extremes like running a hacked Windows and not updating it for years..

[Viking2121]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Omega:

There are major risks associated with this. You are not getting any updates, and the system will become unstable

Just run Linux or BSD instead of going to stupid extremes like running a hacked Windows and not updating it for years..

I do want to test this in a VM or on bear metal and see if its actually makes a otherwise crap system more responsive, Linux isn't always the answer either, Linus is honestly pretty bloated as well and you often have to strip it even to get a usable and enjoyable experience on a old outdated system, or find a hacked up version of Linux with everything stripped out, Sorta the same thing....

[Omega]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Viking2121:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Omega:

There are major risks associated with this. You are not getting any updates, and the system will become unstable

Just run Linux or BSD instead of going to stupid extremes like running a hacked Windows and not updating it for years..

I do want to test this in a VM or on bear metal and see if its actually makes a otherwise crap system more responsive, Linux isn't always the answer either, Linus is honestly pretty bloated as well and you often have to strip it even to get a usable and enjoyable experience on a old outdated system, or find a hacked up version of Linux with everything stripped out, Sorta the same thing....

That is simply not true.

Windows is a monolytic system, everything is dependant on eachother, it is why the OS breaks when your remove (really remove, not just hide) Edge. You messing around at this level will break the OS, if you attempt to update your system after running the Atlas patches it will die.

Linux is highly flexible. You can make the system as minimal as you want. Don't need a GUI? Remove it. Not planning on using a network? Disable and remove your network manager. Fancy a quicker boot? Debloat the initramfs removing the recovery shell. Want to drop the GNU Coreutils and replace it with a lightweight Busybox litterally replacing the entire user space of the operating system? Go right ahead, the system does not care.

And after doing all these horrible things it will still run extreme reliably, you can update it without breaking the entire system for each component is checked for updates independantly compared to Microsoft Windows's carpet bombing update method.

Linux is still a full desktop/server operating system, it is heavy when comparing it to many specialized things. Yet not heavy in the same way Windows is heavy. The problem with Windows is the massive amount of invasive trash installed and running by default. Stupid crap such as intergrating Bing search in to everything and having hundreds of mostly irrelevant background tasks constantly doing or waiting for useless stuff, that is what is make the OS so slow.

[emoticorpse]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Omega:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Viking2121:

I do want to test this in a VM or on bear metal and see if its actually makes a otherwise crap system more responsive, Linux isn't always the answer either, Linus is honestly pretty bloated as well and you often have to strip it even to get a usable and enjoyable experience on a old outdated system, or find a hacked up version of Linux with everything stripped out, Sorta the same thing....

That is simply not true.

Windows is a monolytic system, everything is dependant on eachother, it is why the OS breaks when your remove (really remove, not just hide) Edge. You messing around at this level will break the OS, if you attempt to update your system after running the Atlas patches it will die.

Linux is highly flexible. You can make the system as minimal as you want. Don't need a GUI? Remove it. Not planning on using a network? Disable and remove your network manager. Fancy a quicker boot? Debloat the initramfs removing the recovery shell. Want to drop the GNU Coreutils and replace it with a lightweight Busybox litterally replacing the entire user space of the operating system? Go right ahead, the system does not care.

And after doing all these horrible things it will still run extreme reliably, you can update it without breaking the entire system for each component is checked for updates independantly compared to Microsoft Windows's carpet bombing update method.

Linux is still a full desktop/server operating system, it is heavy when comparing it to many specialized things. Yet not heavy in the same way Windows is heavy. The problem with Windows is the massive amount of invasive trash installed and running by default. Stupid crap such as intergrating Bing search in to everything and having hundreds of mostly irrelevant background tasks constantly doing or waiting for useless stuff, that is what is make the OS so slow.

Windows is just fine when you know what you're doing, so comparing a functional install of Linux against a gunked up version of Windows isn't too accurate.

Unfortunately it only takes a single bloated application to cripple Windows, and many users happen to find it and then blame Windows for those performance issues.

I personally think Linux advocates join the blame train out of convenience because it only helps their case, not out of malicious intent.

But just like anything, I think it's a case of the loud minority vs the silent majority. Most people on Windows are probably doing just fine with it but don't say so out loud. I would't be surprised if Linux is a bit snappier or responsive/faster because of it's design but not as fast as Linux advocates think.

This is my opinion. Sure I might ne wrong since I don't use Linux on a regular basis and everytime I've dabbled in it, I lost my patience before I could gain a meaningful experience with it.

[Omega]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย emoticorpse:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Omega:

That is simply not true.

Windows is a monolytic system, everything is dependant on eachother, it is why the OS breaks when your remove (really remove, not just hide) Edge. You messing around at this level will break the OS, if you attempt to update your system after running the Atlas patches it will die.

Linux is highly flexible. You can make the system as minimal as you want. Don't need a GUI? Remove it. Not planning on using a network? Disable and remove your network manager. Fancy a quicker boot? Debloat the initramfs removing the recovery shell. Want to drop the GNU Coreutils and replace it with a lightweight Busybox litterally replacing the entire user space of the operating system? Go right ahead, the system does not care.

And after doing all these horrible things it will still run extreme reliably, you can update it without breaking the entire system for each component is checked for updates independantly compared to Microsoft Windows's carpet bombing update method.

Linux is still a full desktop/server operating system, it is heavy when comparing it to many specialized things. Yet not heavy in the same way Windows is heavy. The problem with Windows is the massive amount of invasive trash installed and running by default. Stupid crap such as intergrating Bing search in to everything and having hundreds of mostly irrelevant background tasks constantly doing or waiting for useless stuff, that is what is make the OS so slow.

Windows is just fine when you know what you're doing, so comparing a functional install of Linux against a gunked up version of Windows isn't too accurate.

Unfortunately it only takes a single bloated application to cripple Windows, and many users happen to find it and then blame Windows for those performance issues.

I personally think Linux advocates join the blame train out of convenience because it only helps their case, not out of malicious intent.

But just like anything, I think it's a case of the loud minority vs the silent majority. Most people on Windows are probably doing just fine with it but don't say so out loud. I would't be surprised if Linux is a bit snappier or responsive/faster because of it's design but not as fast as Linux advocates think.

This is my opinion. Sure I might ne wrong since I don't use Linux on a regular basis and everytime I've dabbled in it, I lost my patience before I could gain a meaningful experience with it.

You do not seem to be very knowledgeable on these topics, you are simply making guesses here, most of which are simply not correct.

You are probably thinking about disabling some startup services and tweaking the registry a bit a'la ShutUp10. Atlas goes much further than this, it threads outside of the bounds which Microsoft intended you to thread on. This results in a disfunctional, unreliable and unstable system. It is a neat little project, but not something you should ever seriously considering running.

The fact that it can not update without dying should already be all the reason you need to not use it. Do not try to downplay updates as 'not needed', because they very much are needed.

[emoticorpse]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Omega:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย emoticorpse:

Windows is just fine when you know what you're doing, so comparing a functional install of Linux against a gunked up version of Windows isn't too accurate.

Unfortunately it only takes a single bloated application to cripple Windows, and many users happen to find it and then blame Windows for those performance issues.

I personally think Linux advocates join the blame train out of convenience because it only helps their case, not out of malicious intent.

But just like anything, I think it's a case of the loud minority vs the silent majority. Most people on Windows are probably doing just fine with it but don't say so out loud. I would't be surprised if Linux is a bit snappier or responsive/faster because of it's design but not as fast as Linux advocates think.

This is my opinion. Sure I might ne wrong since I don't use Linux on a regular basis and everytime I've dabbled in it, I lost my patience before I could gain a meaningful experience with it.

You do not seem to be very knowledgeable on these topics, you are simply making guesses here, most of which are simply not correct.

You are probably thinking about disabling some startup services and tweaking the registry a bit a'la ShutUp10. Atlas goes much further than this, it threads outside of the bounds which Microsoft intended you to thread on. This results in a disfunctional, unreliable and unstable system. It is a neat little project, but not something you should ever seriously considering running.

The fact that it can not update without dying should already be all the reason you need to not use it. Do not try to downplay updates as 'not needed', because they very much are needed.

Well, I wasn't implying anything about Arlasos, just Windows in general. I do agree Windows is easy to break if you tweak it too much without knowing what you're doing.

[Cathulhu]

Gutting is not tweaking.

[76561198343548661]

i used CCleaner to remove Edge and it worked well . Nothing broken.

Unfortunately no luck with Defender and Search app(Cortana) .

[Omega]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย smallcat:

i used CCleaner to remove Edge and it worked well . Nothing broken.

Unfortunately no luck with Defender and Search app(Cortana) .

Removing and hiding are two different things. Edge is still there.

[76561198343548661]

No , it s not there

[Omega]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย smallcat:

No , it s not there

You can not remove Edge, the best you can do is hide it from the user.

Actually removing it would break your system.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/why-can-t-i-uninstall-microsoft-edge-ee150b3b-7d7a-9984-6d83-eb36683d526d

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

naice a real os

[76561198343548661]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Omega:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย smallcat:

No , it s not there

You can not remove Edge, the best you can do is hide it from the user.

Actually removing it would break your system.

{ลิงก์ถูกลบแล้ว}https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/why-can-t-i-uninstall-microsoft-edge-ee150b3b-7d7a-9984-6d83-eb36683d526d

not lying . You might give it a try . My OS is very stable.

PS
not going to repeat myself . It s removed , not hidden . No entry in Task Manager or whatsoever .

[Omega]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย smallcat:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Omega:

You can not remove Edge, the best you can do is hide it from the user.

Actually removing it would break your system.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/why-can-t-i-uninstall-microsoft-edge-ee150b3b-7d7a-9984-6d83-eb36683d526d

not lying . You might give it a try . My OS is very stable.

That is because it is not removed. It is still installed, just hidden.