why is every one so mad about 4gb ram

[Not Buff Helpy]

i built a 4gb ram q6600 gtx 750 pc to play games in my room instead of a console for 2010s games and every one is getting so mad for using tiny 11 with 4gb its not slow or takiing more than 3 frames from gamplay its pretty low end and the cpu is at 4% so why is every one so mad also wanted to test tiny 11 on low specs and test the limits of this pc so why so mad you guys

[Not Buff Helpy]

Postat inițial de Lunchb0x:

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

Overall I don't see why there needs to be a discussion regarding facts. 4GB is not enough, for any PC you playing games on. Even if it's for Grandma to play indie BigFishGames and Pogo on.

4GB RAM hasn't been enough since Vista/Win7 came out. Again if it was for basic stuff; homework, web browsing, playing media files... OK not a big problem. But for games no. Because the game itself needs at least 4GB RAM all by itself.

You could easily solve that by going on Ebay and grab another stick of 4GB DDR2. Assuming the PC has 1x 4GB already and not 2x 2gb or 4x 1gb

You didn't read did you? OP uses Tiny11 with 4GB of RAM on a Q6600 based PC, and mostly plays games from early 2010's and I assume even older than that. 4GB of RAM was fine then, not the best, but definitely usable and most games were playable.

Why are you so ignorant?

EDIT: Look on metacritic, for the best games of 2012. On the top 10 (even the top 50, more than likely), there's not a single game on there that isn't playable with 4GB of system RAM. They all recommend 4GB, and very few list it as a minimum requirement...which is still playable. IMAGINE GAMES OLDER THAN 2012, YOU SHOULD HAVE ZERO PROBLEMS AT ALL.

Well yes I was just wondering why they were so mad about 4gb ram in tinny 11

[Not Buff Helpy]

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Postat inițial de notbuffhelpy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

No in another discussion they called me not tech savvy and like a old grandfather that just learned how to change the background so I think I'm smart 💀

you should move on , don't add fuel to the fire.

Your right I guess

[Not Buff Helpy]

Postat inițial de CJM:

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

You could easily solve that by going on Ebay and grab another stick of 4GB DDR2.

Do all Q6600 PCs support a 1x 4GB DDR2? 4GB modules were so rare in the DDR2 era that compatibility is iffy.

My Core 2 Duo with DDR2 does not support 4GB modules, and there were numerous reports of incompatibility back when I was interested in upgrading it at all.

If one is mad about him using only 4GBs, then one should probably be just as mad about the even more insane suggestion to buy 1x 4GB of DDR2 off of eBay. Also, he has 4 slots last I heard, which means 16GB of RAM.

Postat inițial de notbuffhelpy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

wanted to test tiny 11 on low specs and test the limits of this pc so why so mad you guys

The Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 is a cpu for high performance 32-bit 4GB DDR2 computers, with a wide range of compatibility with retro 16-bit software, and legacy DRM solutions like SecuROM (NFS Underground 1).

This CPU is useful for what are still considered "more modern" titles which require a 64-bit Operating System, such as Resident Evil 7, wherein Windows 11 64-bit tends the benefits of 8GB of RAM.

I am probably in agreement with whoever is "mad" in that 4GB of RAM does not "test the limits" of the Q6600. It kneecaps it, and instead tests the limits of 4GB of DDR2. We're not interested in the limits of what that spec of RAM can do...

Yes its ddr3 and still won't work on q6600 it won't boot

[Not Buff Helpy]

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

Postat inițial de notbuffhelpy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

lol it is but i can why it seems personal

Why couldn't you have just asked this as a question within the thread you already have about your hardware regarding Fortnite.

I mean Fortnite isn't even on Steam so.... yea.

Overall I don't see why there needs to be a discussion regarding facts. 4GB is not enough, for any PC you playing games on. Even if it's for Grandma to play indie BigFishGames and Pogo on.

4GB RAM hasn't been enough since Vista/Win7 came out. Again if it was for basic stuff; homework, web browsing, playing media files... OK not a big problem. But for games no. Because the game itself needs at least 4GB RAM all by itself.

You could easily solve that by going on Ebay and grab another stick of 4GB DDR2. Assuming the PC has 1x 4GB already and not 2x 2gb or 4x 1gb

Thx for the advice now it won't boot thx 👍

[Wichtelman]

Postat inițial de notbuffhelpy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

Why couldn't you have just asked this as a question within the thread you already have about your hardware regarding Fortnite.

I mean Fortnite isn't even on Steam so.... yea.

Overall I don't see why there needs to be a discussion regarding facts. 4GB is not enough, for any PC you playing games on. Even if it's for Grandma to play indie BigFishGames and Pogo on.

4GB RAM hasn't been enough since Vista/Win7 came out. Again if it was for basic stuff; homework, web browsing, playing media files... OK not a big problem. But for games no. Because the game itself needs at least 4GB RAM all by itself.

You could easily solve that by going on Ebay and grab another stick of 4GB DDR2. Assuming the PC has 1x 4GB already and not 2x 2gb or 4x 1gb

Thx for the advice now it won't boot thx 👍

you did not post your motherboard or did you?
do you know the difference between ddr2 and ddr3?

[_I_]

Postat inițial de notbuffhelpy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

Postat inițial de CJM:

Do all Q6600 PCs support a 1x 4GB DDR2? 4GB modules were so rare in the DDR2 era that compatibility is iffy.

My Core 2 Duo with DDR2 does not support 4GB modules, and there were numerous reports of incompatibility back when I was interested in upgrading it at all.

If one is mad about him using only 4GBs, then one should probably be just as mad about the even more insane suggestion to buy 1x 4GB of DDR2 off of eBay. Also, he has 4 slots last I heard, which means 16GB of RAM.



The Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 is a cpu for high performance 32-bit 4GB DDR2 computers, with a wide range of compatibility with retro 16-bit software, and legacy DRM solutions like SecuROM (NFS Underground 1).

This CPU is useful for what are still considered "more modern" titles which require a 64-bit Operating System, such as Resident Evil 7, wherein Windows 11 64-bit tends the benefits of 8GB of RAM.

I am probably in agreement with whoever is "mad" in that 4GB of RAM does not "test the limits" of the Q6600. It kneecaps it, and instead tests the limits of 4GB of DDR2. We're not interested in the limits of what that spec of RAM can do...

Yes its ddr3 and still won't work on q6600 it won't boot

what mobo?
that determines what ram it can use

[N3tRunn3r]

That issue might lay on Tiny11 itself, as it has many disabled features and core stuff. Not recommended for "gaming". Tiny 11 doesnt even get security updates nor ANY (automatic) updates, so will be vulnerable just like Windows XP and/or Windows 7.

In your Tiny11-case, it would be even better to install "Windows 7 Starter".

Or why dont you try Linux Debian[www.debian.org] or Linux Mint Debian Edition[linuxmint.com] with ProtonDB[www.protondb.com] installed for example? Linux distributions always work on any machine and keep "up-to-date" which is highly neccessary.

It seems you havent informed yourself about what Tiny11 even is, what it does and what it can..

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

I used to play fallout 4 on my q9650 with only 4G ram. It's possible and nothing bad happened.

[vanishedchief2021]

I love using low end hardware i kinda find it fun to see what i can manage to get running on it

[76561199442519373]

so like just get more ram and all problems are solved...

[_I_]

4g of ram is ok for games 10+ years old that do not need more than that

windows 10 needs 8+g just to run smooth by itself

[Komarimaru]

Problem is literally the lack of memory, as posted in the other thread. Game now runs on Unreal Engine 5.1, 4GB isn't enough.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Even for gaming in 2010 we mostly had PCs with 8GB RAM as the everyday norm. 4GB was mostly back in the days of XP and maybe when people were first moving to Vista.

But the difference being that you could load up XP can keep the ram usage around 300-500MB or so, leaving you enough to run games and such.

Even with TIny Win11 you would want 6-8GB of RAM. On the specs the OP aisle using it would make more sense to just use Win7 64bit SP1.

[Tiberius]

windows 10 alone requires 2gb of ram, windows 11 needs 4gb. ddr4 ram is so cheap nowadays, theres absolutely no reason to get at least 8gb of ram

[Illusion of Progress]

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

Even for gaming in 2010 we mostly had PCs with 8GB RAM as the everyday norm. 4GB was mostly back in the days of XP and maybe when people were first moving to Vista.

That's a bit of history revising in my opinion. You're vastly overestimation what normal RAM capacities were back then.

I built my first PC in late 2007/early 2008, and went with 4 GB. Most people had more like 2 GB at the time. Not all that long after that (mid 2008 or mid 2009?), I upgraded from 4 GB to 8 GB in mid 2009 SOLELY because of how cheap it was, and I know for a fact 8 GB was ridiculously excessive at the time I did that.

No, most people weren't running 4 GB in the times of Windows XP, at least not in terms of the time before the launch of Windows Vista, and you are SERIOUSLY revising history there if you think they were because the actual Windows XP era was one of memory capacities measured in MB or maybe 1 GB at best (2 GB came more around the time Windows Vista did), and any more meant you were way, way ahead of the norm. If many people were really running 4 GB on the release of Windows Vista, it wouldn't have had as much of the reputation it did of needing a lot RAM. 4 GB was pretty normal for 2010 itself, and 8 GB would have been STARTING to come into normalcy. 16 GB, which I went with in late 2011, was a lot at the time too.