Worth switching to AMD?

[PashaBiceps]

Hi, I've heard that 8GB VRAM is becoming not enough in modern gaming. I always had nVidia GPUs, im not sure hows AMD? Do AMD drivers have the same features as nVidia? Im talkin bout replays, filters, HUD etc.

I've been thinking bout switching to rx 6700 xt 12 GB VRAM, what do yall think?

[emoticorpse]

I say go for it, all things considered. I probably will, when I get around to actually buying a new gpu.

[AbedsBrother]

Radeon software features are generally considered superior to Nvidia's these days.

Driver stability has been good for the 6xxx series, and once AMD solved some issues, the 5xxx series has been stable, too (I have a 5700XT).

[xSOSxHawkens]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από AbedsBrother:

Radeon software features are generally considered superior to Nvidia's these days.

Driver stability has been good for the 6xxx series, and once AMD solved some issues, the 5xxx series has been stable, too (I have a 5700XT).

Pretty much this.

Though I will add their drivers are now stable across the board (and mostly have been for quite awhile actually). I have recent regular gaming use with HD, RX500, and Vega lines along with 6k and can confirm they are all more or less the same stability and even feature wise outside of GPU limitations. Even the HD7870 has had a relatively modern version of the driver Ui updated to it with recording and overclocking built in (which was a surprise as they had dropped support long ago and added that stuff anyway it seems).

As for OP - Go for it! (assuming you have a GPU lower than the 6700xt that is). If you are running something legacy from NV, like a 1060 or the likes, the 6700xt will stomp it hard on performance ;)

[hawkeye]

The 12GB thing is relevant to AAA games, not to the low end games shown on your screenshots.
And with the 12GB can come with the need for high-end performance which the 6700xt doesn't have.

I wouldn't worry about it unless you have problems with games you have now. If you intend buying some AAA titles then check specs for what you actually need.

[C1REX]

I like AMD software more. Replay works very well. Driver stability seems fine. I have 5700xt.
You have no DLSS, weaker Ray Tracing but you get 6950XT for a similar price as 3070Ti.
I recommend to try it. I was positively surprised with my first AMD card. My first NVIDIA card was GeForce 2 Titanium I bought for Quake3.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I wouldn't look at 6700 XT though. It's a weak GPU in that having 12GB VRAM won't matter cause demanding games are going yl need a more powerful gpu then that. Look at 6800 XT or RTX 4070 / 4070 Ti

[PashaBiceps]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad 💀 Motha:

I wouldn't look at 6700 XT though. It's a weak GPU in that having 12GB VRAM won't matter cause demanding games are going yl need a more powerful gpu then that. Look at 6800 XT or RTX 4070 / 4070 Ti

Well, from what I've seen this upgrade will give me ~30% fps more in games (not counting ray tracing) and also I will be able to max out video settings without crashes (cuz 12gb vram).
And im not going for 3060 without ti cuz this one is actually weaker. My friend has 3060 without ti and he told me that it kinda struggle with fps sometimes (he gave me that example with game wreckfest, maxed out graphics)

[Guydodge]

noticed you didnt mention your cpu or ram and at what res.do your home work and put together
a well rounded system.the smart move with the card level your looking at is stick to 1080p
games are crap and your going to need more than recommended specs to get a decent
gaming experience that you'll be happy with.you can get a great experience with 1080
just as well as 1440 or 4k if you build a well rounded rig..if you follow the hype you'll be
DOA

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jefferson:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad 💀 Motha:

I wouldn't look at 6700 XT though. It's a weak GPU in that having 12GB VRAM won't matter cause demanding games are going yl need a more powerful gpu then that. Look at 6800 XT or RTX 4070 / 4070 Ti

Well, from what I've seen this upgrade will give me ~30% fps more in games (not counting ray tracing) and also I will be able to max out video settings without crashes (cuz 12gb vram).
And im not going for 3060 without ti cuz this one is actually weaker. My friend has 3060 without ti and he told me that it kinda struggle with fps sometimes (he gave me that example with game wreckfest, maxed out graphics)

3060, 3060 Ti, 6600 Xt, 6700 XT are all better suited for decent FPS at 1080p

While a game that has Ray Tracing would have lower FPS when that is actually enabled in-game, you can counter that with DLSS or FSR to bring your FPS back up again.

You're not doing any RT if you go with AMD GPU, so keep that in mind.

[AbedsBrother]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad 💀 Motha:

You're not doing any RT if you go with AMD GPU, so keep that in mind.

wtf? Come on. Even Hardware Unboxed's latest video shows them running raytracing on an rx 6800 with decent results. Radeon raytracing isn't on par with nvidia's, but to say they can't do it at all is straight-up false.

[DasWulf]

If its just non VR gaming, no productivity, then going with an AMD GPU is "fine", assuming you can get a good deal out of it. If you plan to do more than just game (no VR), you really should stick with Nvidia.

Do note, the current 7900 GPUs have some flaws in their design. Not only can idle power consumption run upwards of 100w, but AMD had to rush and find a fix for those GPUs, which in turn had left the 6000 series cards with no updates for over 3 months. Anyways the design flaw caused the performance to take a hit, which is why they later said those cards were to match the 4080 rather than the 4090.

AMD also has, or at least had, a habit of releasing non WHQL validated drivers, which resulted in a lot of problems.

If you do plan to go with AMD's newest GPUs, hold off until the newest release, even if its a 7800, it will likely have that design flaw fixed and will probably be performing quite close to the current 7900 GPUs.

[UserNotFound]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από AbedsBrother:

wtf? Come on. Even Hardware Unboxed's latest video shows them running raytracing on an rx 6800 with decent results. Radeon raytracing isn't on par with nvidia's, but to say they can't do it at all is straight-up false.

Latest HardWareUnboxed vid did stress the importance of VRAM buffer. IIRC, Hogwarts Legacy and Forspoken on the RTX 3070 can be made to run without crashing at same setting as the RX 6800, but due to the VRAM limitation on the former, you get weird texture popping and stuttering gameplay while the gameplay on the RX 6800 remained smooth.

On RE4R, running the game even at 1080P (IIRC, could be 1440P), enabling RT + texture above 1GB would result in a crash. Running the game with RT but lower texture is doable I think, but again, you'd get weird texture popping which, from the vid, was really bad. There's a visual difference with texture at 1GB vs texture at >1GB (or maxed out) to consider, this is all down to VRAM buffer, the RX 6800 has plenty of it, the RTX 3070 doesn't. The real pity is, had the RTX 3070 been given more VRAM, like 16GB, it could easily match the RX 6800 (or, at the very worst, loses slightly), even surpass it with RT enabled.


As to OP dilemma, either get the RX 6700XT/6750 XT/6800/6800 XT or wait for the RX 7800 XT, which I'm almost certain would have 16GB of VRAM. Now, it all hinges on its price, I'm hoping it'd be a little cheaper than the RTX 4070 12GB (600USD).

[xSOSxHawkens]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από AbedsBrother:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad 💀 Motha:

You're not doing any RT if you go with AMD GPU, so keep that in mind.

wtf? Come on. Even Hardware Unboxed's latest video shows them running raytracing on an rx 6800 with decent results. Radeon raytracing isn't on par with nvidia's, but to say they can't do it at all is straight-up false.

yeh, for some unknown reason people on here like to spread FUD that Radeons cant ray trace. Its kinda funny.

RX6k is more or less = to RTX 2k in raw RT, with the 6900/6950xt consistently matching or surpassing the 2080ti/RTX Titan, and the rest of the stack punching similar down the line.

Radeon 6k is basically RTX 3k or greater performance in games without RT, and RTX 2k performance in games with RT, for typically a good chunk less in cost.

And RT is also entirely game load dependent. Some lighter RT titles can even be played with RT on a 6500xt (think Far Cry 6).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLMTWkk_smw

[Wichtelman]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από UserNotFound:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από AbedsBrother:

wtf? Come on. Even Hardware Unboxed's latest video shows them running raytracing on an rx 6800 with decent results. Radeon raytracing isn't on par with nvidia's, but to say they can't do it at all is straight-up false.

Latest HardWareUnboxed vid did stress the importance of VRAM buffer. IIRC, Hogwarts Legacy and Forspoken on the RTX 3070 can be made to run without crashing at same setting as the RX 6800, but due to the VRAM limitation on the former, you get weird texture popping and stuttering gameplay while the gameplay on the RX 6800 remained smooth.

On RE4R, running the game even at 1080P (IIRC, could be 1440P), enabling RT + texture above 1GB would result in a crash. Running the game with RT but lower texture is doable I think, but again, you'd get weird texture popping which, from the vid, was really bad. There's a visual difference with texture at 1GB vs texture at >1GB (or maxed out) to consider, this is all down to VRAM buffer, the RX 6800 has plenty of it, the RTX 3070 doesn't. The real pity is, had the RTX 3070 been given more VRAM, like 16GB, it could easily match the RX 6800 (or, at the very worst, loses slightly), even surpass it with RT enabled.


As to OP dilemma, either get the RX 6700XT/6750 XT/6800/6800 XT or wait for the RX 7800 XT, which I'm almost certain would have 16GB of VRAM. Now, it all hinges on its price, I'm hoping it'd be a little cheaper than the RTX 4070 12GB (600USD).

would not be suprised if the rtx 3080, 3080 ti, 4070 and 4070 ti suffer the same fate with their 12gb vram sooner or later... personally i did go for rx 6800 16gb "upgraded from gtx 1060 6gb" because i do not care about raytracing at all and do not support nvidea with their planned obsolescence...

[UserNotFound]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Wichtelman:

would not be suprised if the rtx 3080, 3080 ti, 4070 and 4070 ti suffer the same fate with their 12gb vram sooner or later... personally i did go for rx 6800 16gb because i do not care about raytracing at all...

I'd posted at length about this, either in another thread or in another forum, that nVidia is putting the barest necessary for a mid-high end card for this gen, much like how they'd stubbornly stuck with 8GB for their RTX 3060 Ti/3070/3070 Ti (even though these cards were capable of more).

AMD had moved on from 8GB to 10GB or more for their last gen mid-high cards (RX 6700 10GB, RX 6700 XT/6750 XT 12GB, RX 6800 16GB). As a result, the AMD mid-high cards are aging better than nVidia's corresponding cards, and it simply boils down to VRAM.

This gen sees nVidia loading their mid-high cards, RTX 4070/4070 Ti, with the barest minimum required 2023 and newer games, and that is 12GB while I'm almost certain AMD would go 16GB for their upcoming RX 7800 XT. It's the same old thing happening again...