How cheap do you think the current Steam VR headset will get

[Livermush]

After the new one officially comes out?

[Mailer]

If the current VR headset still sells well then I find it unlikely for Valve to offer a discount. But if they were to release a successor and if for some reason decide to discount the old model then I would wager a 10% discount perhaps.

The Steam Deck has had discounts between 5 to 25% as Valve hardware goes, but it has a different sales margin entirely, so no one can really say for sure.

[76561199502155650]

vr is sadly not even a discussion any more as the gaming market for VR bottomed out with over priced titles an extremely low users due to the high cost of vr helmets.

valve index is one of the highest priced models and does not really do that much of a better job then other similar styles, i personally use a low end vr helmet that was under 200 dollars, it works great but the lack of fun games and over all motion sickness and lack of room to play ruined vr for me.

it is sorta stupid to try and play games with a helmet on your head where you can't see your surroundings, it is a fun meme fade that wears off quickly for its users.

some of the dangers include falling over or other nausia type issues. i don't see valve dropping the price on index as i see valve just discontinuing it and using the hardware for something else, possibly as a give away with steam deck 2/ decker versions as a second means of display.

that was the ultimate discussion we have about steam deck some years ago, would it be compatible with valve index, personally i think it would be cool to see, but its troubling how poorly the VR industry has progressed in the past 5 years.

[Livermush]

re: the VR market bottoming out: that seems a bit overdramatic. If I can buy a headset and use it to do fun stuff, then I wanna do that. I could care less what some nerd projects

[Livermush]

I currently have a PSVR2 and I'm tired of not getting to do anything with it but GT7. PCVR has a lot of stuff that you get to do for free whereas currently my only options are 30-40 dollar indie tech demos. The problem is that I don't want to downgrade my FOV to a Quest 2. The Steam headset seems pretty good, albeit price af, but if it got low enough to where I could trade in said Sony headset and be mostly there on the hardware, that would be preferable

[Zefar]

Unicorn - Rainbow Unit님이 먼저 게시:

vr is sadly not even a discussion any more as the gaming market for VR bottomed out with over priced titles an extremely low users due to the high cost of vr helmets.

I doubt the people who bought Index are worried about the game price.
While the VR community doesn't have the massive userbase the Index kept selling out for the first 2 or 3 years. That should at least show there are enough people using it.
Not to talk about the HTC Vive which also sold a lot.

Unicorn - Rainbow Unit님이 먼저 게시:

valve index is one of the highest priced models and does not really do that much of a better job then other similar styles, i personally use a low end vr helmet that was under 200 dollars, it works great but the lack of fun games and over all motion sickness and lack of room to play ruined vr for me.

You're trying to play the VR games as a normal PC game. That is why you are getting motion sickness. Unless you get accustomed to it you will keep getting motion sickness.

[76561199502155650]

one of my biggest issue was the demo of alot of games where nice but they never went past the demo phase. they where all just test games that never produced.

i will also agree that using vr in games not ment for vr was sorta my problem, but at the same time i didn't like the effect it had on me, also it was kinda annoying to have the helmet on.

i had limited space to use it and one game i did like was a type of bow and arrow shooter, after shooting 100 monsters my arm was pretty tired.

i am also not very sure about "A lot" of people having bought on, mostly the total numbers of steam VR users capped out at 30,000 - 40,000 and most games have less then 3,000 reviews or sales.

keep in mind if someone bought a VR game 9 outta 10 people left reviews about it cause that was the thing to do.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

On the used market maybe fall low as like $200 ~ $400 with the kit, if asking for brand new not much if any as likely drop off from MSRP like $100 ~ $300 at best which still gonna cost way more than Meta quest 2 or 3 headset.

Anyways no idea if they do VR2, and not sure by how much it be better, or not over the last version as it's REALLY old so changes may be massives very likely, and wouldn't be shocked if Valve charge around $1000, but I assume might have specs like Vive Pro 2.

Unicorn - Rainbow Unit님이 먼저 게시:

vr is sadly not even a discussion any more as the gaming market for VR bottomed out with over priced titles an extremely low users due to the high cost of vr helmets.

It's a slow area for releasing better games, it's not big enough market for devs to make games for it as much, and most don't even bother because they're too focus on making mobile games, or indie games, and believe it, or not mobile games is just dumb market that overly saturated as they mostly focus on models such as pay to win, pay to progress, and so on. Like there far more Mobile games than there is on Steam by huge massive landsilde, and that because there 1 ~ 20 games releasing every day on google play / app store, that doesn't even cover the non games it just so nuts.

Unicorn - Rainbow Unit님이 먼저 게시:

valve index is one of the highest priced models and does not really do that much of a better job then other similar styles, i personally use a low end vr helmet that was under 200 dollars, it works great but the lack of fun games and over all motion sickness and lack of room to play ruined vr for me.

I mean it only thing Valve has made by them really, but overall there are more costly VR such as Vive Pro 2, and even bigger VR headsets with larger FOV that just crazy in cost but mostly at towards businesses, and such rather than consumer, I can see VR making some shares in business side such as medical, engineer, or etc even use for training reasons.

But yeah IMO good easy to get into would be Quest 2 since they're way cheaper, or pico 3/4 but I suggest quest due to better drivers, and these have built in trackers, and come with controllers, as well top of all that are standalone headsets so don't have to use a PC to use them, or even go wireless if wanted, which most other headsets lacks that option.

All VR headsets cause motion sickness it's one of those things have to get used to, example boat / horse riding, or wearing glasses, or contacts for 1st time it basically like trying to adjust your body to something new it not used to not something you just get used to in a day takes time, and some people get used to it in a week, some take months to get used to it, not everyone same, and depends how long they been trying to get adjusted to something

And yes you have to have room if you plan to be standing, otherwise you're gonna be limiting yourself to games that mean to be seated which basically half the games, or more that wouldn't be playing.

Unicorn - Rainbow Unit님이 먼저 게시:

it is sorta stupid to try and play games with a helmet on your head where you can't see your surroundings, it is a fun meme fade that wears off quickly for its users.

Not sure if serious, or being silly. If you are being serious, and wanted to see your surronding, & game at same time, you want AR, not VR.

AR = Augmented Reality <--- Means you always see your surronding, and stuff.

VR = Virtual Reality <--- To take you OUT of Rality like seeing another world kind of the whole point of it.

Unicorn - Rainbow Unit님이 먼저 게시:

some of the dangers include falling over or other nausia type issues. i don't see valve dropping the price on index as i see valve just discontinuing it and using the hardware for something else, possibly as a give away with steam deck 2/ decker versions as a second means of display.

that was the ultimate discussion we have about steam deck some years ago, would it be compatible with valve index, personally i think it would be cool to see, but its troubling how poorly the VR industry has progressed in the past 5 years.

Yeah that danger not going anywhere ever in a life just like the wii, and switch where you're swinging the controllers the danagers of hitting someone, something, or hurting yourself really.

But yes progression has been slow, it's not a fast market, and not a booming one for consumers for video games really, maybe in the future it might boom, but not anytime soon as long there no large focus on the space. Sony kind of helping a little bit, but that for PS5 really as they're re-investing in the market, which I won't be shocked they drop it off just like the PSP Vita.

Livermush님이 먼저 게시:

I currently have a PSVR2 and I'm tired of not getting to do anything with it but GT7. PCVR has a lot of stuff that you get to do for free whereas currently my only options are 30-40 dollar indie tech demos. The problem is that I don't want to downgrade my FOV to a Quest 2. The Steam headset seems pretty good, albeit price af, but if it got low enough to where I could trade in said Sony headset and be mostly there on the hardware, that would be preferable

I say watch for Quest 3, or check out Vive pro 2 which has more FOV than PSVR2.

Quest 2 Fov 90 ~ 100
Quest 3 rumor to be 100 nothing confirm yet.
PSVR2 is 110
Vive Pro 2 is 120

Reason why I suggest vive pro 2 is that if gonna spend $1000, might as well get the better one that supports higher resolution.

Quest 2 1832×1920 per eye
Quest 3 rumor to be 2064 x 2208
PSVR2 2000 x 2040
Vive pro 2 2448 x 2448

Anyways I own Quest 2, and tried PSVR2 before, IMO PSVR2 nicer due to oled as we all know Oled has better blacks than LCD that may matter, or not to you, fov is little wider, but either way it's not much better than Quest 2 really IMHO, and they're cheaper than PSVR2 as well. But it depends on you really if it matters, the only thing have to take into account is having a good PC to support running the games you want at a high resolution, so if don't have a good PC to begin with it may not be worth it. To put it in good way to get a full max resolution from software on Quest 2 for it resolution for games like Skyrim VR, or whatever you need at least RTX 4080, or better, you might ask that seem crazy, and it kind of is but that because you're redering a game at 5408 x 2736 which is 14,796,288 pixels or 5k if want to put it in nicer way, more than PSVR2 that because you're limits by no choice since can't control what your PS5 does, or PSVR2 can only use pre sets settings they allow.



Now I do want to say hold off from buying headsets as there ARE people working trying to make PSVR2 work for PC. Example like this.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1021000/iVRy_Driver_for_SteamVR_PSVR2_Premium_Edition/

THE problem is not sure what kind of issues may see, or how it will work with other drivers, Steam has been working on more open driver for VR such as OpenXR.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/250820?emclan=103582791435040972&emgid=3666547477701117069

https://www.khronos.org/openxr/

Anyways best of luck whatever you figure out, or wait until quest 3 happens at the very least.

[76561199502155650]

yeah i think ps5 vr2 would of seen a better market if sony had created its own pc drivers for it, so owners could it both on pc an ps5 that would of got them a much larger user market.

i was also suprised to see sony did the vr2 which seems like they had all the money invested in it anyway just before the market droped out and so they released it regardless.

for some reason the console systems can't seem to prioritize the hardware they make.

example : the Xbox Kenetic camera which is a amazing 3d rendering camera for creating 3d modeling. i picked on up for super cheap, 20 bucks and it can even be used for VR tracking and control if you configure it right.

ideally a type of kenetic camera with vr headset would be nice to see, one that can track movements such as duck or jump.

there is just so much potential that console systems had in the late 2010's that got flushed when those companies wanted to create more profit with a new console system.

i feel sony is basicly doing the same thing with VR2 trying to profit off it with twice the price then ps4 Vr, while limiting its profits with a console system that still doesn't have alot of owner ship.

[Livermush]

It's just depressing because the longer I wait to get rid of this headset, the lower the price on the secondary market is dropping. Worst use of $550 ever

[Sigma957]

I'd like it to come down to a price point where it makes the HTC Vive come down to a lower price point. Then I can finally pick up 'Arizona Sunshine'.