Etxxu Sep 4, 2023 @ 6:44am
Playing in laptop with charger will damage battery?
Hi!

I recently give as a present a laptop (Lenovo Legión 5 Gen 6 15ITH6H i5, 16GB, RTX 3060) but the battery runs out in 1h and without charger the software cap the specs to medium and 30 FPS.

Some users told to playing with the charger always, so my question is about if playing all the time with the charger will damage the battery or if this is a myth. On the net I read It is a myth and the battery won't be damaged, but I prefer to ask.

Thank you so much!

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Omega Sep 4, 2023 @ 6:52am 
It wont.

Lenovo has started to ship sodium ion batteries with their mos recent devices, these batteries are much cheaper than litium-based ones, they also charge faster but have less charge cycles.

I am unsure if these batteries will behave differently under these circumstances, assuming your laptop is outfitted with one it may not.
h@YLey11*K* Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:07am 
Hey,that is a gaming laptop it is designed to be plugged in always if you are gaming. If you are doing general browsing you can use battery. You can get max gaming performance when plugged in . For the battery it has a certain limit or charging cycles so best to plugged if most of the time its for gaming . I've done this on my 4 year old laptop and no issues.
Bad 💀 Motha Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:21am 
Laptops use logic-switching to turn off the charging when it's done so it can't over-charge the battery.

Laptops have always been designed to run off Wall Power without a Battery; unlike a Phone or Tablet which feeds all power from wall to battery and then to the device.

To play games, plugging into the wall is a must. When you run off battery you will only get around 30-50% of the full performance compared to plugged into the wall.
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:22am
Etxxu Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:30am 
Thank you all guys!!

I was worthy about

One question, what is "charge cycles"?
Last edited by Etxxu; Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:31am
Bad 💀 Motha Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:37am 
How many times you charge the battery.
All batteries will go through wear & tear over time as you charge it.
No ways around that.

Most batteries are good for 1000 cycles or so.
Omega Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by Etxxu:
One question, what is "charge cycles"?
Batteries when charged and discharged will physically wear out.

Charge cycles is the amount of times the battery should be capable of doing a full charge and discharge before it eventually wears out. A lithium ion battery typically can do upwards of 10.000 charge cycles, sodium does around 5.000.
Etxxu Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by Omega:
Originally posted by Etxxu:
One question, what is "charge cycles"?
Batteries when charged and discharged will physically wear out.

Charge cycles is the amount of times the battery should be capable of doing a full charge and discharge before it eventually wears out. A lithium ion battery typically can do upwards of 10.000 charge cycles, sodium does around 5.000.
But that means It will get damaged pretty soon, isn't it?
Bad 💀 Motha Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:43am 
No; while the Laptop maker might only warranty the original battery for approx 1-year; they often should have enough life worth of cycles to last 3-5 years, depending on use/storage; etc.
Omega Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by Etxxu:
Originally posted by Omega:
Batteries when charged and discharged will physically wear out.

Charge cycles is the amount of times the battery should be capable of doing a full charge and discharge before it eventually wears out. A lithium ion battery typically can do upwards of 10.000 charge cycles, sodium does around 5.000.
But that means It will get damaged pretty soon, isn't it?
If you fully discharge your laptop twice per day every day it would take you about 4-5 years to fully kill a sodium battery and twice as much for its lithium counterpart. And this is the cheap battery you can replace for a tenner.

Only thing you will really run in to is that the battery capacity will start to noticably drop over time.
Last edited by Omega; Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:47am
Bad 💀 Motha Sep 4, 2023 @ 7:55am 
^ That's on-paper though.

Any battery could die at any time.

I've seen plenty of Laptop batteries run into problems without 6-12 months or shortly after the 12 month warranty ran out; to where the battery all of a sudden would drain out in like 1 hour. Where as normally it would get 3-4 hours.

But yes, in theory and under normal conditions 4-5 years is a good bet.
Etxxu Sep 4, 2023 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
No; while the Laptop maker might only warranty the original battery for approx 1-year; they often should have enough life worth of cycles to last 3-5 years, depending on use/storage; etc.
Thats time enough to us, she only need It a few years! Thanks!

Originally posted by Omega:
Originally posted by Etxxu:
But that means It will get damaged pretty soon, isn't it?
If you fully discharge your laptop twice per day every day it would take you about 4-5 years to fully kill a sodium battery and twice as much for its lithium counterpart. And this is the cheap battery you can replace for a tenner.

Only thing you will really run in to is that the battery capacity will start to noticably drop over time.
She pretends to play with charger, but knowing this is a good thing

I hope the battery last enough when she use It as an "Office device" outside home

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
^ That's on-paper though.

Any battery could die at any time.

I've seen plenty of Laptop batteries run into problems without 6-12 months or shortly after the 12 month warranty ran out; to where the battery all of a sudden would drain out in like 1 hour. Where as normally it would get 3-4 hours.

But yes, in theory and under normal conditions 4-5 years is a good bet.
This laptop battery only last 1h playing... And she has use It just 2 days... Should It last 3-4h?

And without charger and not playing (Word and light use) how many hours should last?
Omega Sep 4, 2023 @ 8:28am 
Originally posted by Etxxu:
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
No; while the Laptop maker might only warranty the original battery for approx 1-year; they often should have enough life worth of cycles to last 3-5 years, depending on use/storage; etc.
Thats time enough to us, she only need It a few years! Thanks!

Originally posted by Omega:
If you fully discharge your laptop twice per day every day it would take you about 4-5 years to fully kill a sodium battery and twice as much for its lithium counterpart. And this is the cheap battery you can replace for a tenner.

Only thing you will really run in to is that the battery capacity will start to noticably drop over time.
She pretends to play with charger, but knowing this is a good thing

I hope the battery last enough when she use It as an "Office device" outside home

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
^ That's on-paper though.

Any battery could die at any time.

I've seen plenty of Laptop batteries run into problems without 6-12 months or shortly after the 12 month warranty ran out; to where the battery all of a sudden would drain out in like 1 hour. Where as normally it would get 3-4 hours.

But yes, in theory and under normal conditions 4-5 years is a good bet.
This laptop battery only last 1h playing... And she has use It just 2 days... Should It last 3-4h?

And without charger and not playing (Word and light use) how many hours should last?
When playing games it is very normal for a laptop to last 1-2 hours or even less. The machine uses a lot more power when gaming then while playing a YouTube video.

You can squeeze more playtime out of it by locking the FPS at 30 or 40. Results will vary by game.
Agent Sep 4, 2023 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by Omega:
It wont.

Lenovo has started to ship sodium ion batteries with their mos recent devices, these batteries are much cheaper than litium-based ones, they also charge faster but have less charge cycles.

I am unsure if these batteries will behave differently under these circumstances, assuming your laptop is outfitted with one it may not.
sodium ion batteries? This must be a recent thing, because last time I checked this was still in experimental stages.
Ocelote.12 Sep 4, 2023 @ 12:33pm 
I've got a MSI Modern 14 laptop, and the preinstalled driver (by MSI) says that if almost all of my usage is while plugged-in (it is), then for prolonging the life of the battery the battery should be kept at 50%, and this driver, if set to this mode by user, does so — it limits the max charge to 50%. It's not a default behavior, but optional. This optional mode works even while the laptop is turned off but still connected to the power socket.

I don't know the type of the battery though.
Last edited by Ocelote.12; Sep 4, 2023 @ 12:41pm
It's actually recommended to plug them in when you game. No companies ever mentioned anything about it being detrimental. It's the only way to get full performance.
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