Citizen Cook 1 września 2023 o 8:46
Windows 11 bloatware
So I’ve been watching a lot of handheld gaming PC videos. They are all running Windows 11 instead of Steam OS and game performance and battery life is suffering because of it.
This has gotten me thinking, how much of Windows 11 could be stripped out of the OS and still have it run games?
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Lixire 1 września 2023 o 8:51 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U76ZRIzBhOA

So far I ran it before on this config (i9 9900K + RTX 3080 10GB) and the amount of processes went from 150 down to like 68. gaming performance didn't improve much but overall system responsiveness has increased very noticeably.
ChickenBalls 1 września 2023 o 9:07 
not sure about handhelds but there are debloaters out there
just look for them on github
Bad 💀 Motha 1 września 2023 o 15:58 
I free up 2GB of RAM by stopping various OS services and background exe stuff that just doesn't help and/or needed just to run my game clients and games.

In Win10 even after launching Steam + Rockstar I have only used 3GB of RAM and that's with GFE, MSI AB, RTSS and Creative SoundBlaster Volume app running in background
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Bad 💀 Motha; 1 września 2023 o 16:00
plat 1 września 2023 o 16:50 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad 💀 Motha:
I I have only used 3GB of RAM and that's with GFE, MSI AB, RTSS and Creative SoundBlaster Volume app running in background

This is OT but do you recommend the Creative Sound Blaster discrete card? Is it that much better than a mainboard's sound thingy?

I have Creative GigaWorks speakers but am wondering if the extra sound card is gonna make a vast difference if I already added the OpenGL sound enhancement.

Edit: there are lots of articles on how to reduce the bloat in Windows 11.

https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-quickly-remove-bloatware-from-windows-11/

I remove a lot of junk manually--after a while you just know what to keep and what to delete.

Also, you need to manually turn off a lot of extra background services in Settings app/Privacy/Background apps. Toggle off as many as you want. Any app you toggle to off will open regardless on demand.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: plat; 1 września 2023 o 16:50
Bad 💀 Motha 1 września 2023 o 19:12 
There isn't much to delete really. It's mostly a matter of overall OS Settings and knowing which Services you can turn off. Sometimes that is not always clear because sometimes when you run a certain app, it may auto-start or be relying on certain OS Services to be available for that app to function as intended.
Everything, just delete it. Install linux, install the compatibility tool proton. And your ready to go.
Bad 💀 Motha 2 września 2023 o 1:54 
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Everything, just delete it. Install linux, install the compatibility tool proton. And your ready to go.

Plays most Games like crap also.
A&A 2 września 2023 o 4:19 
Win 10 with Steam, Epic Games, Radmin VPN, MSI Afterburner and RTSS.

In Use (Compressed)
2.2/8GB

Commited 2.5/9.3GB

The question is what makes windows 11 to use more ram.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: A&A; 2 września 2023 o 4:55
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Everything, just delete it. Install linux, install the compatibility tool proton. And your ready to go.

Plays most Games like crap also.
For what they told me. It's mostly hardware related. Just make a profile per game.
Zefar 2 września 2023 o 5:08 
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Win 10 with Steam, Epic Games, Radmin VPN, MSI Afterburner and RTSS.

In Use (Compressed)
2.2/8GB

Commited 2.5/9.3GB

The question is what makes windows 11 to use more ram.

Windows will use up RAM to pre load things into it. In case you start using it. If you have less RAM it'll use less RAM.

You can use Windows with 1 GB RAM, it won't be a good experience but you can use it. Also RAM is meant to be used. RAM not used is basically wasted RAM.
A&A 2 września 2023 o 6:13 
Yes, sysmain (superfetch), prefetch and windows search do this, but are they more aggresive in Windows 11?

RAM in my case is not wasted when l have to run VPN with a server and other applications in the background.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: A&A; 2 września 2023 o 6:16
76561199502155650 2 września 2023 o 6:44 
i think alot of users are missing the point of ram, it is being used because its prefetched, its storing information to quickly access it later, that is the over all point of ram, if you are not using ram then your not prefetching anything and the ram is then pointless.

the first thing you should do on any mobile device running windows is set your battery settings correctly, lower your screen brightness, and turn off or disable many of the startup and active services.

a mobile device is no different from a desktop pc, both will run like garbage if they are not set up correctly, battery life can go from 30 minutes to 4 hours of settings are changed correctly.


also lowing the over all core % throttle of the CPU will also increase the life, lower the heat, and lower the power consumption.
Mr White 2 września 2023 o 6:46 
I deleted most except for EDGE. Which cannot be removed and MS Store. I get on Laptop it can be annoying especially as you have Microsoft and your Laptop makers.
apathy 2 września 2023 o 7:34 
When installing Windows, always choose language as English (World).

Your computer is now bloatware free.
r.linder 2 września 2023 o 10:04 
Microsoft would be better off making a version specific for handheld devices like that which is more lightweight and easier to manage on that kind of platform, otherwise Linux is always going to be better
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