AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor to a AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D

[8myers8]

Is AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor to a AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D a big jump or waste of money ?? card i use is a RTX3070 as would like to future proof my pc a bit more as i love my ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero board so much ..

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

It should be a decent bump in frame rate, like 30-40%? Maybe even more. It all depends on the game. But that's it, it's a waste of money otherwise. It's pretty much the same CPU technology just newer cores and 3d cache.

For example, if you are already GPU bound then the 5800x3d would be wasteful.

[Illusion of Progress]

I made that exact change.

It was a pretty substantial jump, and it improves 1% lows more than averages (in best case scenarios, the 1% lows for the 5800X3D exceed the average for the 5800X), so don't think the average or maximum is the whole story.

Zen 2 to Zen 3 is already a decent bump, but not a change I'd make alone. But the 5800X3D has average performance in gaming that slightly exceeds Zen 4, so it's sort of like two generations of uplift which is the lower end of what I'd consider a worthwhile change.

One thing to mention is while the average performance uplift might be good, in worst case scenarios (where the cache doesn't help), it will "only" be as good as a 5700X/5800X or thereabouts. Which is basically just a gen-on-gen uplift from your current 3700X. So don't be shocked if you have some titles where the uplifts are lower. There should be plenty of game results out there by now on that CPU and you can cross-check the results with the 5800X to see how much the cache helps. If the 5800X/5800X3D have similar performance then expect a smaller uplift in those titles. If they have a gap between them, expect a larger one in those titles.

Not sure I'd consider a RTX 3070 "future proof" given it has 8 GB VRAM but the 5800X3D is definitely a viable option for longevity on AM4 if you already have a good AM4 board and/or RAM.

[8myers8]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

I made that exact change.

It was a pretty substantial jump, and it improves 1% lows more than averages (in best case scenarios, the 1% lows for the 5800X3D exceed the average for the 5800X), so don't think the average or maximum is the whole story.

Zen 2 to Zen 3 is already a decent bump, but not a change I'd make alone. But the 5800X3D has average performance in gaming that slightly exceeds Zen 4, so it's sort of like two generations of uplift which is the lower end of what I'd consider a worthwhile change.

One thing to mention is while the average performance uplift might be good, in worst case scenarios (where the cache doesn't help), it will "only" be as good as a 5700X/5800X or thereabouts. Which is basically just a gen-on-gen uplift from your current 3700X. So don't be shocked if you have some titles where the uplifts are lower. There should be plenty of game results out there by now on that CPU and you can cross-check the results with the 5800X to see how much the cache helps. If the 5800X/5800X3D have similar performance then expect a smaller uplift in those titles. If they have a gap between them, expect a larger one in those titles.

Not sure I'd consider a RTX 3070 "future proof" given it has 8 GB VRAM but the 5800X3D is definitely a viable option for longevity on AM4 if you already have a good AM4 board and/or RAM.

Thank you for the info mate......Think am going to get the 5800X3D and yes the RTX 3070 needs to go next ..