Are GTX series video cards capable enough to last the next 6 years?
I'm building a new pc which I'm mostly buying NVIDIA GeForce GTX1080 Ti 11GB card because of my budget value cannot exceed $1 thousand ( R$3-4 mil reais ) and for that I was in doubt between this choice or NVIDIA RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, 6GB. But watching how games can be the third choice wouldn't be lasting the next 2 years.
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Цитата допису Lil C-ew C-ew is ☂д☂:
I'm building a new pc which I'm mostly buying NVIDIA GeForce GTX1080 Ti 11GB card because of my budget value cannot exceed $1 thousand ( R$3-4 mil reais ) and for that I was in doubt between this choice or NVIDIA RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, 6GB. But watching how games can be the third choice wouldn't be lasting the next 2 years.

I replaced my gtx 1080 ti with an RTX 3080 about a year ago.
The reason was mainly upscaling - or lack thereof.

So FSR can still work
DLSS- No No No
XeSS - It can but it was not doing that well.

The Poor XeSS performance was the last straw for me.
Also no hardware ray tracing.


My guess is no.
If you playing only older games only - pre 2017, then maybe.
Hmm...couldn't stop noticing there always someone hijacking someone thread to ask diferent subjects....:calm_creep:
Anyway, will these video cards like RTX 2070 SUPER , RTX 3060 and GeForce GTX 1080 would they bottleneck with Intel I5-10600K? I'm almost definitely getting this cpu because of the high frequency speed when most of games do need at minimum 3 ghz processor.
But when I add these three gpu cards, the cost of my budget get overpriced and I cannot afford. These next months I got to build a new PC that can last or doesn't need to suffer changes on the next 6 years.

My current build was assembled in 2016 using old tech from 2009-2013 and lived long untill 2021 when Nvidia ceased to keep releasing WHQL drivers. One year before Microsoft end of life Windows 7 support was about to end.
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...So FSR can still work
DLSS- No No No
XeSS - It can but it was not doing that well.

The Poor XeSS performance was the last straw for me.
Also no hardware ray tracing.


My guess is no.
If you playing only older games only - pre 2017, then maybe.
I didn't understand the first phrases. Care to elaborate on extended words? Answering the other* question. Yes I do play old games but mostly Destiny 2 and Grand Theft Auto online that constant need to keep having drivers updated or eventually can melt the hardware. Which happened in my situation.
Автор останньої редакції: Lil C]-[ew C]-[ew is ☂д☂; 22 серп. 2023 о 15:52
Цитата допису Lil C-ew C-ew is ☂д☂:
Ok then I should be picking series Nvidia RTX 2xxx or 3xxx instead? Even though I'm trying to retrieve the years I've lost using a weak machine in the last 6 years what would be the risk if I start using Windows 11 late this year and grab Nvidia GTX 1080?
3 years still far but I wished I could have 6 years by at minimum.

My current NVidia GTX 750 ti last untill 2021 when Nvidia antecipated to stop launching WHQL drivers.
750 Ti (alongside GTX 745, 750 non Ti) is still supported because it uses newer maxwell architecture compared to other 700 series cards using older kepler cards. You still have game ready drivers with that card.
That bottleneck question is never a good question. The 10600K is a good gaming CPU, but if it will be enough depends on the game. You just have to look at Baldurs Gate 3 right now; where the crowd density in Act 3 all of a sudden stresses the CPU while many benchmarks were made in the earlier acts.
If you ask which card you should get the 3060 would be the better choice if you can snatch a 12 GB version.
Even a 9700K has no.problems properly handling a 2080 Ti so those 10th gen I5 would do just fine up to around RTX 3080, 4070 level of gpu no problem however I would also pair that cpu with at least 2x 16GB of RAM
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Цитата допису Lil C-ew C-ew is ☂д☂:
I'm building a new pc which I'm mostly buying NVIDIA GeForce GTX1080 Ti 11GB card because of my budget value cannot exceed $1 thousand ( R$3-4 mil reais ) and for that I was in doubt between this choice or NVIDIA RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, 6GB. But watching how games can be the third choice wouldn't be lasting the next 2 years.
No, 1080ti is not that great even at 1080p.
1080 ti is still fine at 1080p unless you turn on raytracing.
If that were true then anything below 4060 ti would be DOA pretty much.
Автор останньої редакції: Tomi Montana; 22 серп. 2023 о 17:27
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that's why consoles exist
Consoles end up costing more. The online membership and more expensive games add up. Pay a higher upfront cost for PC then have no online to pay for and steam sales. The savings balance out or sway in the favour of PC.

I love PC gaming, and the only console I run is a Nintendo Switch. It's gonna take quite a few years of running both a PS5 and an Xbox Series X, plus their online memberships to equal the cost of my PC. So no, consoles aren't more expensive in absolute terms. You can craft a scenario where they're more expensive, and I can easily craft one where they're not.


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Цитата допису Karumati:
membership gives you tonns of games
Loads of junk games that you won't own once the money stops coming in.

Got some biases there don't you?

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Цитата допису Karumati:
they have sony exclusives there too if we speaking of playstation
A lot of those are ported to PC now and the exclusives you get on Steam are more vast and can appeal to a broader audience due to the shear abundance of genres available.

Let them biases shine!
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Цитата допису Karumati:
No, 1080ti is not that great even at 1080p.
1080 ti is still fine at 1080p unless you turn on raytracing.
If that were true then anything below 4060 ti would be DOA pretty much.
Some games without ray tracing looks noticeably worse. Cyberpunk is a good example
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Цитата допису Tomi Montana:
1080 ti is still fine at 1080p unless you turn on raytracing.
If that were true then anything below 4060 ti would be DOA pretty much.
Some games without ray tracing looks noticeably worse. Cyberpunk is a good example
So?
5 years later still only a select amount of games use raytracing and even then you need a beefier GPU. Not to mention the fact that not everyone plays latest triple A titles.
3060/4060 won't cut it without compromises and decent fps at the same time
You aren't losing a lot by not having raytracing at these tiers of GPUs such as the 1080 ti as these gpus simply don't have enough spare power.
Автор останньої редакції: Tomi Montana; 22 серп. 2023 о 18:13
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Some games without ray tracing looks noticeably worse. Cyberpunk is a good example
So?
5 years later still only a select amount of games use raytracing and even then you need a beefier GPU. Not to mention the fact that not everyone plays latest triple A titles.
3060/4060 won't cut it without compromises and decent fps at the same time
You aren't losing a lot by not having raytracing at these tiers of GPUs such as the 1080 ti as these gpus simply don't have enough spare power.
the main problem here is not ray tracing tho, 1080ti doesn't have access to dlss. fsr is just worse visually and performance wise.
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Цитата допису Tomi Montana:
So?
5 years later still only a select amount of games use raytracing and even then you need a beefier GPU. Not to mention the fact that not everyone plays latest triple A titles.
3060/4060 won't cut it without compromises and decent fps at the same time
You aren't losing a lot by not having raytracing at these tiers of GPUs such as the 1080 ti as these gpus simply don't have enough spare power.
the main problem here is not ray tracing tho, 1080ti doesn't have access to dlss. fsr is just worse visually and performance wise.
Which just confirms that modern corporations are lazy and neglect older products. 1080 ti doesn't have tensor or Ai cores but in pretty much anything IT especially coding/programming, it is a norm to find workarounds for problems.
The fact that there isn't any normal scaling software is just peak laziness.
Don't get me wrong, 1080 ti isn't some saint of a GPU, yes there are hardware limitations to it and yes, it is standard practice for an older product to not have the same level of support as a newer one but if NVIDIA really wanted to then that GPU could have a longer lifespan.

And DLSS, While impressive, not a big fan of it either.
Modern NVIDIA cards are starting to be dependent on DLSS and other software features way too much, especially the 4060 and 4060 ti. It's steroids for RTX cards to make them look better then they really are. Once you stop playing triple A titles, those ,,steroids" wear off.
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Цитата допису Karumati:
the main problem here is not ray tracing tho, 1080ti doesn't have access to dlss. fsr is just worse visually and performance wise.
Which just confirms that modern corporations are lazy and neglect older products. 1080 ti doesn't have tensor or Ai cores but in pretty much anything IT especially coding/programming, it is a norm to find workarounds for problems.
The fact that there isn't any normal scaling software is just peak laziness.
Don't get me wrong, 1080 ti isn't some saint of a GPU, yes there are hardware limitations to it and yes, it is standard practice for an older product to not have the same level of support as a newer one but if NVIDIA really wanted to then that GPU could have a longer lifespan.

And DLSS, While impressive, not a big fan of it either.
Modern NVIDIA cards are starting to be dependent on DLSS and other software features way too much, especially the 4060 and 4060 ti. It's steroids for RTX cards to make them look better then they really are. Once you stop playing triple A titles, those ,,steroids" wear off.
1080ti is already having long support, it’s been released over 5 years ago
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Цитата допису Tomi Montana:
Which just confirms that modern corporations are lazy and neglect older products. 1080 ti doesn't have tensor or Ai cores but in pretty much anything IT especially coding/programming, it is a norm to find workarounds for problems.
The fact that there isn't any normal scaling software is just peak laziness.
Don't get me wrong, 1080 ti isn't some saint of a GPU, yes there are hardware limitations to it and yes, it is standard practice for an older product to not have the same level of support as a newer one but if NVIDIA really wanted to then that GPU could have a longer lifespan.

And DLSS, While impressive, not a big fan of it either.
Modern NVIDIA cards are starting to be dependent on DLSS and other software features way too much, especially the 4060 and 4060 ti. It's steroids for RTX cards to make them look better then they really are. Once you stop playing triple A titles, those ,,steroids" wear off.
1080ti is already having long support, it’s been released over 5 years ago
My point still stands, 1080 ti is still fine for 1080p at the moment and while the lack of DLSS might come and bite it in the butt, It still has some life in it.
Автор останньої редакції: Tomi Montana; 22 серп. 2023 о 19:16
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1080ti is already having long support, it’s been released over 5 years ago
My point still stands, 1080 ti is still fine for 1080p at the moment and while the lack of DLSS might come and bite it in the butt, It still has some life in it.
i guess we will wait see if it's still gonna hold at least 60 fps on high at 1080p in starfield and some upcoming games
At the moment 1080 Ti.is barely enough to really run CP2077 or RDR2 very well at 1080p without dipping down to maybe 40 is FPS range
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