What's people's experience with the 536.99 driver?

[Iggy Wolf]

I've read online that people say that this new driver now offloads memory from the VRAM unto system RAM if the VRAM gets close to max. And that causes a system slowdown. I only updated to the newest driver because I just replaced my old 2060 Super with a 3070 Ti and so wanted fresh new clean drivers. Does it currently affect gaming performance or only if doing video/3D artwork/editing and graphic design (AI tools and Blender etc.).

[A&A]

This thing has always existed and that depends on the game engine itself.

[PopinFRESH]

No issues with it. In regards to the "offloading VRAM" that isn't anything new nor does it have to do with this driver, or NVIDIA cards. That is normal behavior and also one of the areas that ReBAR can improve performance with since it removes the need to wait for the CPU in fetching those things back from main memory.

Which CPU / Motherboard do you have? Have you gone in to BIOS/UEFI and enabled ReBAR when you upgraded to the 3070Ti? (assuming it wasn't enabled previously)

[Crashed]

PopinFRESH님이 먼저 게시:

No issues with it. In regards to the "offloading VRAM" that isn't anything new nor does it have to do with this driver, or NVIDIA cards. That is normal behavior and also one of the areas that ReBAR can improve performance with since it removes the need to wait for the CPU in fetching those things back from main memory.

Which CPU / Motherboard do you have? Have you gone in to BIOS/UEFI and enabled ReBAR when you upgraded to the 3070Ti? (assuming it wasn't enabled previously)

Isn't the point of ReBAR that the entire video memory can be mapped at once, thus eliminating the overhead of bank switching?

[Iggy Wolf]

PopinFRESH님이 먼저 게시:

No issues with it. In regards to the "offloading VRAM" that isn't anything new nor does it have to do with this driver, or NVIDIA cards. That is normal behavior and also one of the areas that ReBAR can improve performance with since it removes the need to wait for the CPU in fetching those things back from main memory.

Which CPU / Motherboard do you have? Have you gone in to BIOS/UEFI and enabled ReBAR when you upgraded to the 3070Ti? (assuming it wasn't enabled previously)

It's an old OEM motherboard. I don't actually upgrade or invest in this computer as much anymore. It's just that the 3070 Ti was offered to me for $300 and I wanted to replace my ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 2060 Super that had a bad heatsink and cooling solution (it would overheat at 89/90C at stock default 100% power limit). My new PC has a 3060 Ti, so I'm only keeping the 3070 Ti in the old one as a sort of "backup" for the 3060 Ti in the new one.

The old PC has an i5 6400. It's upgrade potential obviously extremely limited, and the computer is not compatible with a Windows 11 upgrade. Just making sure I'm safe with this new driver, as I personally rarely upgrade drivers unless necessary, but Windows Update recently updated my GPU driver, and they always manage to mess something up, so I decided to do a clean install of the new one.

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Iggy Wolf님이 먼저 게시:

PopinFRESH님이 먼저 게시:

No issues with it. In regards to the "offloading VRAM" that isn't anything new nor does it have to do with this driver, or NVIDIA cards. That is normal behavior and also one of the areas that ReBAR can improve performance with since it removes the need to wait for the CPU in fetching those things back from main memory.

Which CPU / Motherboard do you have? Have you gone in to BIOS/UEFI and enabled ReBAR when you upgraded to the 3070Ti? (assuming it wasn't enabled previously)

It's an old OEM motherboard. I don't actually upgrade or invest in this computer as much anymore. It's just that the 3070 Ti was offered to me for $300 and I wanted to replace my ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 2060 Super that had a bad heatsink and cooling solution (it would overheat at 89/90C at stock default 100% power limit). My new PC has a 3060 Ti, so I'm only keeping the 3070 Ti in the old one as a sort of "backup" for the 3060 Ti in the new one.

The old PC has an i5 6400. It's upgrade potential obviously extremely limited, and the computer is not compatible with a Windows 11 upgrade. Just making sure I'm safe with this new driver, as I personally rarely upgrade drivers unless necessary, but Windows Update recently updated my GPU driver, and they always manage to mess something up, so I decided to do a clean install of the new one.

You definitely do not have ReBAR on such an old motherboard.

By the way Windows 11 isn't completely out of the question as it should have TPM 2.0 support via Intel Platform Trust Technology. The CPU is only soft-blocked because support starts with 8th Gen, and the soft-block is in fact reasonable for 6th Gen (not so much for 7th) because the 6th Gen platform lacks hardware acceleration of certain Virtualization Based Security features.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Shared Graphic Memory has always been a thing if thats what its referring to, that is a Windows thing and not specific to a certain driver.

When VRAM is close to being maxed System RAM is then used to help mitigate it, that being UP TO HALF of your RAM being allowed for added graphics memory when necessary.

Now while RAM is slower than VRAM there tends to be a performance impact, but its usually irrelevant in most cases where its actually being used.

This MAINLY happens when you have a GPU with a low amount of VRAM, the less VRAM your GPU has the higher the chance of shared memory being used depending on the graphics settings and resource usage of a game.

You would normally see this with systems using a 1GB or 2GB VRAM GPU normally being maxed out on PC games with good graphics/settings, in which setups it would be best to have AT LEAST 8-16GB RAM so your Physical RAM doesnt end up getting used up while it happens.

I actually ran into this a number of years ago with the game ARK, i was running 8GB RAM with a 2GB VRAM GPU, at the time the VRAM usage sucked so my 8GB RAM was getting maxed out due to the shared usage even though practically nothing else but the game was running, upgrading to 16GB fully resolved that issue.

This could also naturally happen with VRAM intensive Rendering and so forth, which is one of the reasons why such machines have a huge amount of Physical RAM.

[PopinFRESH]

Crashed님이 먼저 게시:

PopinFRESH님이 먼저 게시:

No issues with it. In regards to the "offloading VRAM" that isn't anything new nor does it have to do with this driver, or NVIDIA cards. That is normal behavior and also one of the areas that ReBAR can improve performance with since it removes the need to wait for the CPU in fetching those things back from main memory.

Which CPU / Motherboard do you have? Have you gone in to BIOS/UEFI and enabled ReBAR when you upgraded to the 3070Ti? (assuming it wasn't enabled previously)

Isn't the point of ReBAR that the entire video memory can be mapped at once, thus eliminating the overhead of bank switching?

Yeah, lol posting late when half-asleep and conflating DirectStorage / RTX IO.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Crashed님이 먼저 게시:

Iggy Wolf님이 먼저 게시:

It's an old OEM motherboard. I don't actually upgrade or invest in this computer as much anymore. It's just that the 3070 Ti was offered to me for $300 and I wanted to replace my ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 2060 Super that had a bad heatsink and cooling solution (it would overheat at 89/90C at stock default 100% power limit). My new PC has a 3060 Ti, so I'm only keeping the 3070 Ti in the old one as a sort of "backup" for the 3060 Ti in the new one.

The old PC has an i5 6400. It's upgrade potential obviously extremely limited, and the computer is not compatible with a Windows 11 upgrade. Just making sure I'm safe with this new driver, as I personally rarely upgrade drivers unless necessary, but Windows Update recently updated my GPU driver, and they always manage to mess something up, so I decided to do a clean install of the new one.

You definitely do not have ReBAR on such an old motherboard.

By the way Windows 11 isn't completely out of the question as it should have TPM 2.0 support via Intel Platform Trust Technology. The CPU is only soft-blocked because support starts with 8th Gen, and the soft-block is in fact reasonable for 6th Gen (not so much for 7th) because the 6th Gen platform lacks hardware acceleration of certain Virtualization Based Security features.

"The CPU is only soft-blocked " you mean Microsoft is attempting to help manufacturers convince the public worldwide that they need needless system upgrades and/or replacements in order to update to Win11.

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Wynters님이 먼저 게시:

Crashed님이 먼저 게시:

You definitely do not have ReBAR on such an old motherboard.

By the way Windows 11 isn't completely out of the question as it should have TPM 2.0 support via Intel Platform Trust Technology. The CPU is only soft-blocked because support starts with 8th Gen, and the soft-block is in fact reasonable for 6th Gen (not so much for 7th) because the 6th Gen platform lacks hardware acceleration of certain Virtualization Based Security features.

"The CPU is only soft-blocked " you mean Microsoft is attempting to help manufacturers convince the public worldwide that they need needless system upgrades and/or replacements in order to update to Win11.

I bypassed the requirements on my laptop. It runs fine. I used the method in Microsoft's official "Ways to install Windows 11" page to install 11 on my desktop when it was still a 7th Gen Core i7 which shouldn't have even been excluded.

Microsoft does have a legitimate security interest in requiring TPM however, as it is required to use BitLocker in its default security mode, and without a TPM the numeric Windows Hello PIN will be easy to bypass.