I'm getting a GPU soon for Starfield, which should I get between these two?

[Feastables]

I'm not looking at the 40 series of Nvidia cards. I'm looking at the 30s instead.

Between a 3070 Ti and a 3080 Ti, which would be better for 1080p? I don't care for 4K so I'm not worried about that.

I need to decide which of these cards will work well with my 144hz monitor. 60 fps is fine but I prefer to get 144 of possible, and as it stands currently, with speculation surrounding Starfield as it is, I don't wanna stick with my 1080 Ti only to be stuck with 30 fps. I physically cannot do 30 fps on PC anymore lol.

[MoonC A T]

Originally posted by The Dorf:

I'm not looking at the 40 series of Nvidia cards. I'm looking at the 30s instead.

Between a 3070 Ti and a 3080 Ti, which would be better for 1080p? I don't care for 4K so I'm not worried about that.

I need to decide which of these cards will work well with my 144hz monitor. 60 fps is fine but I prefer to get 144 of possible, and as it stands currently, with speculation surrounding Starfield as it is, I don't wanna stick with my 1080 Ti only to be stuck with 30 fps. I physically cannot do 30 fps on PC anymore lol.

Bethesda has a habit of capping their games at 60 fps for stability purposes. Todd Howard has already said that he prefers a game that is good looking but runs at a lower framerate when it comes to Starfield. What that means when the game is released is anyone's guess.

FO4 used the Creation Engine. The creation engine used in FO4 is an example of the intended implementation hard cap used by Bethesda.

Starfield uses the Creation Engine 2 but there are still no guarantees the game won't be hard capped at 60.

I have a 3070 FE and am very pleased with it in all games and am certain it will perform well in Starfield, whenever I choose to buy it, which will probably be in 3 years or so after release.

[emoticorpse]

I'd get a 4070 ti

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

What`s the point, would just get RTX 4070.
RTX 3070 Ti is only 8 GB VRAM and 3080 Ti is basically same as 4070 with double the energy consumption.

[emoticorpse]

Yeah 4070 is good too. But, I guess he must have a good reason to be looking at those gpu's because the prices I see on Amazon I don't see any rational reason for opting for any of those 3xxx GPU's over 4xxx GPU.

[Feastables]

Originally posted by MoonC A T:

Bethesda has a habit of capping their games at 60 fps for stability purposes.

That's actually a totally fair point. But even still, for other games that don't cap at 60 I need to make sure I get something that's going to run at around 144.

[Feastables]

It may sound ridiculous because I don't actually know if it's true or not, but the reason I'm not looking at 40 series is because I'm worried that it's not going to fit in my PC lol. I'll share my specs shortly, I'm at work rn.

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by The Dorf:

It may sound ridiculous because I don't actually know if it's true or not, but the reason I'm not looking at 40 series is because I'm worried that it's not going to fit in my PC lol. I'll share my specs shortly, I'm at work rn.

I would be pretty sure they'll both fit in there? But meanwhile will wiat on your case info.

[Feastables]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

I would be pretty sure they'll both fit in there? But meanwhile will wiat on your case info.

GPU: GTX 1080 Ti
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X
RAM: DDR4 16GB
MB: MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
Case: MAG Forge 100R

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by The Dorf:

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

I would be pretty sure they'll both fit in there? But meanwhile will wiat on your case info.

GPU: GTX 1080 Ti
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X
RAM: DDR4 16GB
MB: MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
Case: MAG Forge 100R

That's actually a pretty nice case. Official MSI page says it fits cards up to 330mm which should give you plenty of space. I'm assuming nothing is blocking that far right area.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

A 4070 is basically 3080 performance.
4070 Ti is basically 3080 Ti

It would very foolish to buy RTX 30 series at this point unless you some how able to get a 3080 Ti for under $1000

[Jamebonds1]

To be fair. I would just get 4070.

If you have reason to concern about the power ports being melted, then I would just buy 12VHPWR cable for between the PSU and the GPU. It is better than the four connectors to one connector adapter. That way you won't have to worry about one connector got disconnected itself.

[Illusion of Progress]

1. Wait until the game releases/performance is known (if it is, ignore this)?

2. Why, specifically, are you looking at the RTX 30 series instead of the RTX 40 series? While the RTX 40 series certainly has its criticisms (low price/performance uplift), those very same things apply, but worse, to the RTX 30 series!

Especially why are you looking at the 3070 and 3080 series in particular? Both of these have no reason to buy anymore. The RTX 4070 is pretty comparable to the RTX 3080 while having more VRAM, using less energy, and being cheaper. Therefore no point to the latter. The RTX 3070 is an awful value/low VRAM, and while the RTX 4060 Ti might not be much if any faster (it's basically between the 3060 Ti and 3070 which is a slim ~10% difference so all three are very close), it's still cheaper/newer/less power use. Therefore, no point to it either.

That's even ignoring AMD options, which are potentially better price/performance points if you don't care about ray tracing (which I wouldn't put much stock into on lower VRAM products), but even just looking at nVidia, there's (nearly) zero reason to buy an RTX 3070 or 3080 now. I wouldn't even be looking at the RTX 30 series outside maybe the 3060 series in some cases.

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

1. Wait until the game releases/performance is known (if it is, ignore this)?

2. Why, specifically, are you looking at the RTX 30 series instead of the RTX 40 series? While the RTX 40 series certainly has its criticisms (low price/performance uplift), those very same things apply, but worse, to the RTX 30 series!

Especially why are you looking at the 3070 and 3080 series in particular? Both of these have no reason to buy anymore. The RTX 4070 is pretty comparable to the RTX 3080 while having more VRAM, using less energy, and being cheaper. Therefore no point to the latter. The RTX 3070 is an awful value/low VRAM, and while the RTX 4060 Ti might not be much if any faster (it's basically between the 3060 Ti and 3070 which is a slim ~10% difference so all three are very close), it's still cheaper/newer/less power use. Therefore, no point to it either.

That's even ignoring AMD options, which are potentially better price/performance points if you don't care about ray tracing (which I wouldn't put much stock into on lower VRAM products), but even just looking at nVidia, there's (nearly) zero reason to buy an RTX 3070 or 3080 now. I wouldn't even be looking at the RTX 30 series outside maybe the 3060 series in some cases.

He said his main reason was not being sure if 4xxx would fit in his case. He posted his case and I told him it would fit.

[Feastables]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

1. Wait until the game releases/performance is known (if it is, ignore this)?

2. Why, specifically, are you looking at the RTX 30 series instead of the RTX 40 series? While the RTX 40 series certainly has its criticisms (low price/performance uplift), those very same things apply, but worse, to the RTX 30 series!

Especially why are you looking at the 3070 and 3080 series in particular? Both of these have no reason to buy anymore. The RTX 4070 is pretty comparable to the RTX 3080 while having more VRAM, using less energy, and being cheaper. Therefore no point to the latter. The RTX 3070 is an awful value/low VRAM, and while the RTX 4060 Ti might not be much if any faster (it's basically between the 3060 Ti and 3070 which is a slim ~10% difference so all three are very close), it's still cheaper/newer/less power use. Therefore, no point to it either.

That's even ignoring AMD options, which are potentially better price/performance points if you don't care about ray tracing (which I wouldn't put much stock into on lower VRAM products), but even just looking at nVidia, there's (nearly) zero reason to buy an RTX 3070 or 3080 now. I wouldn't even be looking at the RTX 30 series outside maybe the 3060 series in some cases.

He said his main reason was not being sure if 4xxx would fit in his case. He posted his case and I told him it would fit.

1. Definitely doing that. In fact I might subscribe to Game Pass for it just to test it if I feel like shelling out $10. But I know premium buyers are gonna get five days early access to Starfield so I may end up seeing what people say then instead.

2. Ye, what emoticorpse said. With us having established that it'll fit I'm looking at 40s now lol.

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

He said his main reason was not being sure if 4xxx would fit in his case. He posted his case and I told him it would fit.

Oh, okay, I didn't know all RTX 40 series were larger than all RTX 30 series; I thought it was model to model.