Monitor Doesn't Feel Smooth!

[DubboG]

Before I get into this, I just want to say that before this current monitor I had a 1080p 144hz monitor that felt the exact same, not smooth, then i gave it to my friend about a year ago for his first ever PC. When i tried his PC, it felt like literal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BUTTER. silky smooth, it was amazing. It felt like true 144hz and it looked like the youtube gaming videos you see in "240fps"... But for whatever reason, when I owned the monitor it did NOT feel like that. Same goes for my current 1440p 170hz M27Q monitor. (im also having very frequent moments where it's like the screen violently shakes left to right like its spazzing out).

Things to mention are:
-GPU - RTX 3080TI
-CPU - Ryzen 5600x I think its on PBO (ive tried overclocking, no difference in my monitor)
-RAM - 32GB 3200mhz
-I have a Display Cable in my monitor going to the GPU
-Free sync is OFF and Overdrive is in Speed (monitor settings; I've tried both on and off)
-My refresh rate is correct in all games and in ncp aswell as display settings
-Yesterday out of no where while I was playing Apex Legends, after many hours of playing for some reason I went into one more game but this time it literally felt buttery smooth for I'd say maybe 10 minutes. Went back to normal afterwards

This has been a thing for so many years now and now that I'm really trying to get competitive and do Youtube, I really cant stand it anymore and I NEED a fix. Any Ideas are welcome!

UPDATE EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i now have a 240hz 1440p lg oled, rtx 4080, and 7800x3d with 32gb ddr5 ram and the problem still persists

[Some Bot]

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[emoticorpse]

Can you go to userbenchmark.com and run their free program then link to the results here?

When is the last time you re-installed Windows? was it BEFORE you got that FIRST monitor? or you have formatted/re-installed between these two monitors and the problem still occurs?

[Agent]

Thermals? Checked motherboard for blown capacitors?

[Aggressor]

Maybe not helpful with the original question, but you should enable FreeSync and then turn on G-Sync in compability mode

[DubboG]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

Can you go to userbenchmark.com and run their free program then link to the results here?

When is the last time you re-installed Windows? was it BEFORE you got that FIRST monitor? or you have formatted/re-installed between these two monitors and the problem still occurs?

my apologies for the late response! i ran two tests, here are the results. https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/63026724 and https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/63026681

also i cannot recall if i did a fresh reinstall or not with this monitor. i think i did though because after my first monitor i got a prebuilt then when i upgraded mobo and gpu i got a different case and chucked it all in there. i think its a fresh windows install, yeah

[DubboG]

Originally posted by Permanent bulking phase:

Thermals? Checked motherboard for blown capacitors?

Somebody on discord asked for my temps and I told them my temps and they said they were really good. I havent checked the capacitors though, im not that good with tech but ill quickly look up a youtube video now of how to check them now. also ive had this problem on every PC ive owned that includes different mobos
also sorry for the late reply brother

[DubboG]

Originally posted by Aggressor:

Maybe not helpful with the original question, but you should enable FreeSync and then turn on G-Sync in compability mode

sorry for the late reply bro. i've tried with both on / off, also with g sync off and keeping free sync on. none of these change much

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by DubboG:

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

Can you go to userbenchmark.com and run their free program then link to the results here?

When is the last time you re-installed Windows? was it BEFORE you got that FIRST monitor? or you have formatted/re-installed between these two monitors and the problem still occurs?

my apologies for the late response! i ran two tests, here are the results. https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/63026724 and https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/63026681

also i cannot recall if i did a fresh reinstall or not with this monitor. i think i did though because after my first monitor i got a prebuilt then when i upgraded mobo and gpu i got a different case and chucked it all in there. i think its a fresh windows install, yeah

Have you ever NOT had that ram? Is it a 4 stick kit? I wonder if it's possibly something to do with that? Sometimes some motherboards have some trouble with 4 sticks, but if you haven't been getting bluescreens or anything like that then might not be the issue but I would try 2 stick?

Can you do that to test out if it helps?

Other than that though your build looks good and functioning great.

Is that ram on xmp profile or something? can you set it to stock speed and see what happens? Also what PSU do you have? If it's not on XMP can you try enabling XMP?

I can only suspect it might possibly have something to do with ram at this point. Everything else seems kind of ruled out.

Also your main drive is getting kind of low on space, seems like it is probably still enough but kind of getting to a point of "not enough free space". Not even sure if that would cause the "un-smoothness" in your monitors though, but I would still free up some space for the heck of it

Also make sure the ram sticks are the same exact type?

[emoticorpse]

Doing a little more research, does anybody know if raising his DRAM voltage by +0.05 would possibly help? I don't overclock at all but someone on a Reddit thread suggested this to someone else with a similar issue?

Also try loosening timing? Not sure how to do that though. At this point I do think it's your ram configuration causing this.

[Julien, cut it out.]

Install a hardware monitoring tool with an OSD and let it display the frametime graph. Any inconsistency in the sequence of frames is visible in its value/graph.

You did not mention if VSync setting is enabled. VSync does affect the succession of frames.

For smooth gaming without screentearing, I recommend to
1) disable VSync
2) enable Adaptive Sync (FreeSync on monitor and GSync on NVCP)
3) set a max. FPS limit within the monitor's refresh rate and choose a reasonable value

Get more storage space in the form of another SSD, respectively NVMe SSD.

Do you use software encoding for your videos?

[DubboG]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

Originally posted by DubboG:

my apologies for the late response! i ran two tests, here are the results. https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/63026724 and https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/63026681

also i cannot recall if i did a fresh reinstall or not with this monitor. i think i did though because after my first monitor i got a prebuilt then when i upgraded mobo and gpu i got a different case and chucked it all in there. i think its a fresh windows install, yeah

Have you ever NOT had that ram? Is it a 4 stick kit? I wonder if it's possibly something to do with that? Sometimes some motherboards have some trouble with 4 sticks, but if you haven't been getting bluescreens or anything like that then might not be the issue but I would try 2 stick?

Can you do that to test out if it helps?

Other than that though your build looks good and functioning great.

Is that ram on xmp profile or something? can you set it to stock speed and see what happens? Also what PSU do you have? If it's not on XMP can you try enabling XMP?

I can only suspect it might possibly have something to do with ram at this point. Everything else seems kind of ruled out.

Also your main drive is getting kind of low on space, seems like it is probably still enough but kind of getting to a point of "not enough free space". Not even sure if that would cause the "un-smoothness" in your monitors though, but I would still free up some space for the heck of it

Also make sure the ram sticks are the same exact type?

Hey mate, so within my time owning this current set up I've had 2x 8gb ram sticks, and since april ive had 4x 8gb sticks, theyre all the same brand and speeds too. ive tried default speeds and 3600mhz speeds (XMP is greyed out in BIOS for whatever reason), and nothing makes a difference unfortunately. I'm playing Apex right now and honestly, it feels like its maybe 120 fps and i will just feel it while running around or mid fights it feels like it goes to like 70-80 fps even though im never ever dropping below 169 (ive tried 172 fps lock aswell). its reeeeeeeally really strange and just a gross feeling mannnn i hate it and nobody has been able to help me solve this over the years :( ... My PSU is im pretty sure a 1000w platinum silverstone? im fairly sure thats what it was

[DubboG]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

Doing a little more research, does anybody know if raising his DRAM voltage by +0.05 would possibly help? I don't overclock at all but someone on a Reddit thread suggested this to someone else with a similar issue?

Also try loosening timing? Not sure how to do that though. At this point I do think it's your ram configuration causing this.

im gonna try now going from 3200mhz to 3100mhz, and increase dram voltage by 0.05. ill let you know what happens!

[r.linder]

Might want to track your frametimes, since FPS alone isn't the whole story, your frametimes tell you how long it takes for each frame to be rendered. If your frametimes are high or all over the place, then gameplay won't be as smooth as it could be. If your frametimes are very abnormal for the framerate, then there's something wrong.

60 FPS = 16.6ms avg frametimes
90 FPS = 11.1ms avg
120 FPS = 8.3ms avg
144 FPS = 6.9ms avg
180 FPS = 5.5ms avg
240 FPS = 4.1ms avg

If 60 FPS had the frametimes of 120+ FPS, then nobody would ever even need a high refresh rate monitor. Frametimes are literally the reason why higher FPS results in smoother frames.

[DubboG]

Originally posted by Julien, cut it out.:

Install a hardware monitoring tool with an OSD and let it display the frametime graph. Any inconsistency in the sequence of frames is visible in its value/graph.

You did not mention if VSync setting is enabled. VSync does affect the succession of frames.

For smooth gaming without screentearing, I recommend to
1) disable VSync
2) enable Adaptive Sync (FreeSync on monitor and GSync on NVCP)
3) set a max. FPS limit within the monitor's refresh rate and choose a reasonable value

Get more storage space in the form of another SSD, respectively NVMe SSD.

Do you use software encoding for your videos?

Originally posted by 尺．し工几句ヨ尺:

Might want to track your frametimes, since FPS alone isn't the whole story, your frametimes tell you how long it takes for each frame to be rendered. If your frametimes are high or all over the place, then gameplay won't be as smooth as it could be. If your frametimes are very abnormal for the framerate, then there's something wrong.

60 FPS = 16.6ms avg frametimes
90 FPS = 11.1ms avg
120 FPS = 8.3ms avg
144 FPS = 6.9ms avg
180 FPS = 5.5ms avg
240 FPS = 4.1ms avg

If 60 FPS had the frametimes of 120+ FPS, then nobody would ever even need a high refresh rate monitor. Frametimes are literally the reason why higher FPS results in smoother frames.

I'm testing frametimes with a graph right now for the both of you. so far the past few games theyve been around 5.5-6ms. sometimes i see 6.1ms sometimes i see something like 4.5ms, but mostly around mid 5's. how consistent are they supposed to be? is it possible to get it like almost mostly 5.5?

[DubboG]

Originally posted by smallcat:

Maybe you need a faster ssd .

I was even thinking that maybe the problem is i needed to replace both my drives with better faster ones.. im not sure though. they do get pretty expensive