4070 Ti Vs 7900 XTX

[Jiminimity]

I was thinking about saving up for a graphics card sometime next year (I'm still back with the 1070 regular), and I was looking at the 7900 XTX. However, the 4070 Ti is so much cheaper, and 'userbenchmark' claims it's only so much stronger.

I was wondering if it would be worth it for 4k gaming to switch to the XTX, or if I could settle with a 4070 ti?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Just start saving up around $1000 and then see how things are around July - Nov 2024

4K Gaming for what? Why?
If you're not able to do this at 120+ Hz, don't do it at all.

Your visual experience would be much better at 1440p 21:9 @ 120+ Hz instead of going towards 4K

You'd need an RTX 4090 anyways if you really diving into some games @ 4K with everything cranked up.

I wouldn't accept and AMD GPU if they were giving them out for free. Just horrible user experience hands down. Let alone spend money on their junk. AMD Ryzen however is very good CPUs. It's a shame their software engineers are idiots cause without good GPU Software its really holding back all the AMD GPUs from being better.

[Illusion of Progress]

1. If you're making the upgrade next year, ask next year. The state of things between now and then may change, so any decision you arrive at now may not be relevant then.

2. Throw userbenchmark in the garbage. It has very limited usefulness, and comparing across brands isn't one of them.

3. The RX 7900 XT (not XTX) is roughly between the RTX 4070 Ti and RTX 4080 in rasterization, often closer to the latter, and falls between an RTX 4060 Ti and RTX 4070 in ray tracing.

So the RX 7900 XTX is going to be a bit above that. Probably between an RTX 4080 and RTX 4090 in rasterization (though typically closer to the former as the gap between the RTX 4080 and RTX 4090 is rather large... you know, because nVidia neutered the rest of the RTX 40 series) and around RTX 4070 to RTX 4070 Ti in ray tracing? Not sure about the latter part.

The RTX 4070s with a 192-bit bus and 12 GB would concern me for 4K gaming going forward (or even now), but on the other hand, if you're chasing 4K gaming, the card will need either compromises or replaced sooner rather than later anyway due to GPU power, so maybe the VRAM and bandwidth over time won't be a concern. If ray tracing is important, nVidia is your best choice as well.

[Jiminimity]

Bad 💀 Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

Just start saving up around $1000 and then see how things are around July - Nov 2024

4K Gaming for what? Why?
If you're not able to do this at 120+ Hz, don't do it at all.

Your visual experience would be much better at 1440p 21:9 @ 120+ Hz instead of going towards 4K

You'd need an RTX 4090 anyways if you really diving into some games @ 4K with everything cranked up.

To be honest I'm not really too tech-savvy, I just figured 4k would make games look really nice. I'm super into things looking nice. I'd say it'd just be Skyrim and the such, but I'm also looking at Resi 4 Remake, Cyberpunk 2077, Total War Warhammer 3 the such. I don't need 4k, I just need better than 1080p/1920x1080. I'm kinda tired of looking at potatoes in some of the more recent games.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Would you mostly use a Monitor for this gaming PC? Or prefer to use a 4K TV?

[Zef]

7900 XTX is better, also has double the amount of VRAM (24Gb).


This is coming from a 7900 XTX owner for months now.

[Zef]

Bad 💀 Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

I wouldn't accept and AMD GPU if they were giving them out for free. Just horrible user experience hands down. Let alone spend money on their junk. AMD Ryzen however is very good CPUs. It's a shame their software engineers are idiots cause without good GPU Software its really holding back all the AMD GPUs from being better.

This isn't 2010 anymore, AMD drivers have really matured and the Adrenalin software suite is just overall better feature wise then Nvidia's offering.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

4070 Ti and 7900 XTX is not comparable, they are at different tier and price point.

4070 Ti is comparable to 7900xt, both cost $799, 7900xt is 10% faster in rasterization but 40% weaker in Ray Tracing & DLSS. That's the choice you have to make.

7900 XTX is equal to RTX 4080 in raw performance, but 4080 is stronger in Ray tracing and DLSS, hence costs $200 extra.

[skOsH♥]

If you're not running 4k then if you go with nvidia you're forking over probably 2x the price for improvement you're not going to use

Because at 4k, you'll need to run DLSS at a,performance enhancing setting to handle some games at 4k

Some games, however, run just fine in 2k 21:9. I love playing all titles with the frame rate locked between 100 and 120 with Ray tracing..

With a 7900xtx.

If I ran 4k then my frame rate would probably be below 50fps

Its hard to get 4k at 60fps without DLSS for nvidia on a lot of titles just going to throw that out there

They're getting lazy with their advancements in ray tracing, as even I can run path tracing on cp2k77 with a 7900xtx. It runs just as bad as it would on a 4900

If you want balance between visual fidelity and frame rate and you're running at 2k, I would say 7900xtx to save money

I paid $850 for mine

[SinCanDory]

Never trust Userbenchmark. It is very well known that they are biased towards Nvidia and Intel and deeply hate AMD. The site is banned from many subreddits, including Nvidia and Intel because of their false claims and lies.


As for your answer, 7900xtx is much better in terms of raw power but when it comes to ray tracing, either 4070ti may win (not sure) or both struggle. Personally I'd suggest 7900xtx due to its raw power. One note tough: 7900xtx use much more power

[Tiberius]

7900xtx

[r.linder]

NEVER trust a damned thing that UserBenchmark claims, that site is rife with anti-AMD lies that the site owner spreads to try to boost Intel and NVIDIA sales, and he's gone as far as skewing his entire benchmark in favour of AMD's competition, at the cost of the actual accuracy of the results.

For CPUs, cpubenchmark.net is a good site because it's based around Passmark and shows a lot of detail and options for comparisons.
For GPUs, use gpucheck.com, it's one of the more accurate sites for getting average framerates in popular games rather than synthetics that don't actually mean anything to gamers.

The RTX 4070 Ti isn't faster than the 7900-XTX, it's only within the same performance class of the 7900-XT. The XTX performs around the same as the RTX 4080, sometimes better and sometimes worse, but also draws as much power as the 4090.

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-vs-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xt/

[A&A]

4K gaming is not very possible in the latest games without decreasing the anti-aliasing or the resolution, which makes it not 4K ultra.

*Now, this is just my opinion.*
And what about FSR, RSR, Xess, etc.? Personally, I think there is no benefit to these features (not sure about DLSS) because you are adding an algorithm which requires resources from the GPU and the results show an improvement in FPS compared to Native of the upscaled resolution and marginally in the quality of the reduced one, but at the same time, the user can achieve similar or better result.

[UserNotFound]

Yep, Userbenchmark is really, REALLY bias against AMD CPU and GPU. The RX 7900 XTX is about 30% faster vis-a-vis RTX 4070 Ti, in rasterize gaming (according to TPU).