Question: 60fps on a 144hz monitor

[aloan]

I recently upgraded my pc from
I3-9100f & GTX 950
To
R5 5600 & Rx 5700xt

Now my question is. I do play comp games frequently(cs/rl/apex etc) but I also play a lot of single player games which are usually demanding.

I plan to upgrade to a 144hz monitor from 60hz.

But I'm worried about having a bad experience with story games that are demanding and can't get more than 70-80 fps on.

Is there anyway to improve my experience on those certain games without having to sacrifice quality?

[aloan]

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Most importantly guys. Would it actually improve the experience in fps lower than refresh rate in terms of smoothness?

Never noticed a difference.

I personally noticed a lot of a difference between 85hz and 60hz

[_I_]

without gsync/freesync, uneven increments of the refresh rate will look stuttery

these will appear 'smooth' as their timings will be the same
1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 36, 48, 72, 144

if you set it to 120hz, better for video since they are 30/60fps
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 20, 24, 30, 40, 60 120

[Bad 💀 Motha]

If you buy 144Hz and need to run games that do not like to go above, or can't go above like 70-90 FPS or so, then set a Max FPS Limit of 72 (or half the refresh rate).

Yes some panels have many refresh rate options, but not all do.

So if you don't have a 120Hz option, then don't lock in 60 FPS. However don't go and switch to 60Hz on a 144Hz panel either. It will basically defeat the purpose of buying the better refresh panel to begin with.

Its one reason I prefer NVIDIA though, it has a much better and easier means to set all this up.

AMD on the other hand; LOL

But you can always use something like RivaTuner to do it.

[time traveler]

Ok

[Tomi Montana]

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Buy a Monitor that has DisplayPort + FreeSync Premium.
Most 144Hz panels are very outdated now for 1080p; so not sure what screen res you looking to go with for everything. 5700 XT is also kind of outdated, should have probably gone with a 6600 XT or 6700 XT if you can. But 5700 XT is doable for up to around 1440p @ upwards of 180Hz or so.

What you would do is set the native screen res and refresh rate for OS Desktop.
Then on a game by game basis you can set a max FPS limit of 60 if you want.
Then enable FreeSync so you can the proper smoothness that the screen panel offers.
They will still be able to do 60 FPS very smoothly while set to the native refresh, such as 144Hz

The 5700 XT is essentially in the same performance basecamp as as the 6600 XT.
The difference between them is roughly around 7-10% at best in typical rasterisation.
If the 5700 XT will struggle then it's very likely the 6600 XT will too...

[Magma Dragoon]

What do you mean by bad experience? Tearing? Everything has adaptive sync. Inverse ghosting? Monitors tend to have at least two overdrive settings tuned for different refresh rates.

[Guydodge]

with todays games releasing like garbage and your hardware limitations 1080p @144hz
would be the ideal monitor and will keep your fps at a higher level.and not all monitors
are created equally when it comes to running allot below there native fps(say on a 144hz
monitor running at 60fps some will have a stutter to them)absolutely get one with freesync of
any kind.so look for reviews and do your homework before you pull the trigger on one..good luck

[aloan]

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What do you mean by bad experience? Tearing? Everything has adaptive sync. Inverse ghosting? Monitors tend to have at least two overdrive settings tuned for different refresh rates.

What I mean by bad experience is.

I have tried 85hz oc on my monitor for a while and I had to turn it back to 60hz because it caused issues.

Now I feel that 60hz/fps feels Soo much more laggy.

And I thought once I upgrade to 144hz soon. The experience will become so much worse when I play story mode games around that limit 60-80.

[nullable]

Not if you use Freesync.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B097S9SYM5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought this last year and it's a pretty nice screen. Might be more than you want to pay. But I doubt you'd be crying over it coming from 720/900p and 60hz.

[Chryseus]

Normally you want the framerate to be equal to the refresh rate, or an integer division of, such as 36, 48, 72 and 144 FPS for a monitor running at 144 Hz otherwise you will get visible tearing, vsync solves this problem by locking to the lowest stable framerate, however if your average FPS is say 45 FPS it'll have to lock to 36 FPS which may be undesirable, you can of course play without vsync which for some people is acceptable.

A monitor with Freesync or G-sync can dynamically adjust the refresh rate so vsync no longer needs to lock to a integer division of the refresh rate, it simply caps the FPS at the monitor maximum refresh rate, as such you get a smooth tear free experience whilst maintaining maximum FPS, I should add that this only works in the refresh rate range of the monitor such as 48 to 144Hz which is obviously a problem if you're getting less than 48 FPS.

This problem is solved by Low Framerate Compensation which inserts an additional duplicate frame allowing it to work below the monitor refresh rate, for freesync this is half the minimum refresh rate so down to 24 FPS for a minimum 48 Hz monitor, g-sync also support this but only for monitors with a minimum refresh rate of 30Hz.

Since freesync is the most cost effective that's probably what you'll want, fressync premium supports LFC, premium pro adds HDR and some other stuff, there is also g-sync compatible which most freesync monitors are, I assume this has the same limitations as freesync but frankly it's a bit confusing.

TL;DR, it's best to have a monitor supporting Freesync Premium (or Premium Pro) or G-Sync.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

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What do you mean by bad experience? Tearing? Everything has adaptive sync. Inverse ghosting? Monitors tend to have at least two overdrive settings tuned for different refresh rates.

What I mean by bad experience is.

I have tried 85hz oc on my monitor for a while and I had to turn it back to 60hz because it caused issues.

Now I feel that 60hz/fps feels Soo much more laggy.

And I thought once I upgrade to 144hz soon. The experience will become so much worse when I play story mode games around that limit 60-80.

No 60Hz Display OC's very well.
You having a bad experience in this regard is natural.
The fix is stop buying 60Hz screens; period.

[r.linder]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/budget-gaming

RTINGS is a good site for all kinds of reviews, especially monitors as it can be pretty overwhelming trying to find a good monitor when everything looks the freaking same.

[_I_]

most 60hz monitors can oc to 72-90hz

[Andrius227]

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most 60hz monitors can oc to 72-90hz

Doubt it. I have 3 monitors, two of them 60hz. I tried overclocking once and got like 63hz…

[aloan]

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What I mean by bad experience is.

I have tried 85hz oc on my monitor for a while and I had to turn it back to 60hz because it caused issues.

Now I feel that 60hz/fps feels Soo much more laggy.

And I thought once I upgrade to 144hz soon. The experience will become so much worse when I play story mode games around that limit 60-80.

No 60Hz Display OC's very well.
You having a bad experience in this regard is natural.
The fix is stop buying 60Hz screens; period.

Yeah. That's a solution.

But doesn't change the fact that 80fps will also feel ♥♥♥♥ once I get a 144hz