Is AM5 a reliable choice?

[jeffpmaxs6]

I finally piece my AM4 build together. Tested and proven. Booted right up and seem ready to game right out of the box. I just installed Adrenalin and was on my way. : / This is the least I’ve ever done and not even a hic up, so no complaints.

My bro needs a new pc and he might stick with a 24” monitor. The latest AM5 build would be $600 more just for the cpu/gpu, but if price isn’t a concern, what about tested and proven? Performance wise I don’t think there will be much difference over 200fps and if there is any difference I’d say in more favor of a negative one. Don’t know if something will pop or, just need to keep up on drivers. Baa, one driver is all you should ever need. Unless hardware is like games send it out fix it after problems discovered.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Lets just say that when I would need to build a higher-end rig currently then I would go with Intel.
Not exactly trusting the AM5 socket currently. AM4 is still fine option, especially for budget and medium range builds if you are ok with no upgrade path in the future but then again with most upgrades you will eventually end up changing the motherboard as well anyway.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

I like the AM4 Ryzen 9, but hard to find them it seems.

[jeffpmaxs6]

Yeah I seen red flags if anything. And why I went with AM4 over new. I can play 4k ultra games now, so I think it should last for awhile. But, now it seems it’s leaning back to Intel. He’s not a pc guru, so Intel might favor him. Thanks for the heads up.

[Illusion of Progress]

Nothing is proven until time have proven it, so to speak.

Other than the high SoC voltage on older BIOS/specifically the X3D CPUs (and maybe specifically the 7800X3D?), there's been no major issues with it. And that isn't an issue anymore as far as I know?

Originally posted by jeffpmaxs6:

The latest AM5 build would be $600 more just for the cpu/gpu

The GPU isn't part of the platform cost, so I take it the actual difference is smaller then.

The 5600, 5700X, and 5800X3D are the appealing AM4 options, with maybe the 5900X for a budget multi-threaded alternative (but the AM5 Ryzen 9s are otherwise more appealing). The 7800X3D and Ryzen 9s (minus the 7900X3D IMO) are the appealing AM5 options.

If it's just for gaming though, it sort of comes down to three in particular IMO; the 5600 (budget), 5800X3D (budget high end performance), and 7800X3D (spendy top of the line performance).

The lower SKU baseline Zen 4s are somewhat hard to suggest besides the Ryzen 9s in particular, and only if you're concerned with more than gaming, and you'd definitely want to be adding Intel into the mix if you're looking at the costlier end of the market. That said, there's something to be said of AM5's better future (than AM4), but the problem is I see it as questionable to, say, intentionally choosing a 7700 over a 5800X3D at the same-ish cost just for that. And if you go with the 7800X3D, you won't need to upgrade for a while, so the better future still doesn't mean a whole lot (unless you have immediate plans to move to a Zen 5 X3D at the end of the platform life and skip moving to AM6 early). AM5 has the better future though, naturally.

[jeffpmaxs6]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

Nothing is proven until time have proven it, so to speak.

Other than the high SoC voltage on older BIOS/specifically the X3D CPUs (and maybe specifically the 7800X3D?), there's been no major issues with it. And that isn't an issue anymore as far as I know?

Originally posted by jeffpmaxs6:

The latest AM5 build would be $600 more just for the cpu/gpu

The GPU isn't part of the platform cost, so I take it the actual difference is smaller then.

The 5600, 5700X, and 5800X3D are the appealing AM4 options, with maybe the 5900X for a budget multi-threaded alternative (but the AM5 Ryzen 9s are otherwise more appealing). The 7800X3D and Ryzen 9s (minus the 7900X3D IMO) are the appealing AM5 options.

If it's just for gaming though, it sort of comes down to three in particular IMO; the 5600 (budget), 5800X3D (budget high end performance), and 7800X3D (spendy top of the line performance).

The lower SKU baseline Zen 4s are somewhat hard to suggest besides the Ryzen 9s in particular, and only if you're concerned with more than gaming, and you'd definitely want to be adding Intel into the mix if you're looking at the costlier end of the market. That said, there's something to be said of AM5's better future (than AM4), but the problem is I see it as questionable to, say, intentionally choosing a 7700 over a 5800X3D at the same-ish cost just for that. And if you go with the 7800X3D, you won't need to upgrade for a while, so the better future still doesn't mean a whole lot (unless you have immediate plans to move to a Zen 5 X3D at the end of the platform life and skip moving to AM6 early). AM5 has the better future though, naturally.

Well I have a 5800x3d – 6950xt. Good enough for me and should be good enough for him. He probably just wants bragging rights over me, but I’m doing the lag work. Lol. Budget would be 3k, but 2.2k after a decent monitor. All the other parts will add up and maybe make the choice more clear. Especially if he wants shiny lights and water cool. Cause he could spend more, just not sure where and if he would notice it. And it sounds like your'er saying the same. He’s currently using a i7 2600k- 980ti, which I just upgraded from myself. 11 yrs out of the AM4 would be nice. Lol.

[emoticorpse]

I have a 7900 cpu and so far so good. I haven't checked the bottom of my motherboard yet though.

[jeffpmaxs6]

Lol. Thank you for your service, we need testers. I didn’t update my BIOS or any drivers and not really sweating it. AM5 I might be though.

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by jeffpmaxs6:

Lol. Thank you for your service, we need testers. I didn’t update my BIOS or any drivers and not really sweating it. AM5 I might be though.

Yeah, I had to do it. I had an itch to update to the newest thing. It was bugging me for a long time. In order to shake that feeling I had to trade it for a possible house fire and so far I'm better off with a possible house fire than being on old hardware.

[jeffpmaxs6]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

Originally posted by jeffpmaxs6:

Lol. Thank you for your service, we need testers. I didn’t update my BIOS or any drivers and not really sweating it. AM5 I might be though.

Yeah, I had to do it. I had an itch to update to the newest thing. It was bugging me for a long time. In order to shake that feeling I had to trade it for a possible house fire and so far I'm better off with a possible house fire than being on old hardware.

Yeah I know what you mean. I was thinking of taking that big block covering up my nice ram out of my box and putting water cool in. I’m feeling risky.

[Mr White]

Was not only Asus boards there were faulty. I dob't hear MSI or Gigbyte motherboards having problems with AM5,

My put off is no DD4 memory support

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by jeffpmaxs6:

Lol. Thank you for your service, we need testers. I didn’t update my BIOS or any drivers and not really sweating it. AM5 I might be though.

I mean, the platform has been out for over half a year now so I'm pretty sure if there was anything you could infer as of right now, it's that there's nothing to it because if there was, you would know otherwise.

Issues are either unknown, or they are known.

And with AM5, the only issue that's cropped up so far is with the SoC voltage getting too high on Expo and damaging the voltage sensitive X3D CPUs. So if you have an X3D chip, and if you're using Expo, and simply make sure your BIOS is up to date, double check your SoC voltage to make sure it's staying below 1.25C to 1.3V, and then you're set and can forget it.

There's nothing else with AM5 to worry about.

Originally posted by jeffpmaxs6:

Well I have a 5800x3d – 6950xt. Good enough for me and should be good enough for him. He probably just wants bragging rights over me, but I’m doing the lag work. Lol. Budget would be 3k, but 2.2k after a decent monitor. All the other parts will add up and maybe make the choice more clear. Especially if he wants shiny lights and water cool. Cause he could spend more, just not sure where and if he would notice it. And it sounds like your'er saying the same. He’s currently using a i7 2600k- 980ti, which I just upgraded from myself. 11 yrs out of the AM4 would be nice. Lol.

With a budget that high, you should definitely be able to do/be looking at the 7800X3D or Intel's 13th generation (13600K or 13700K).

I was almost the same; used a 2500K for nine years and then went with the 3700X and a lot of RAM with the hopes that it would last me if I needed it to, and if an attractive option comes for an upgrade before that, I'd take it. That attractive option did come along and it was the 5800X3D. Pretty substantial upgrade both times (I play Minecraft which is hard on CPUs). I couldn't think of being back on Sandy Bridge now; it's so slow now, but it did last me a long time (now I just need to ditch this Pascal). In a way though, I hope I'm not on this one for ten years because that would probably mean CPU progress probably slowed (or they copy the GPU market and prices go up so price/performance stalls even if performance goes up). It's picked back up the last three or so years though so here's hoping it continues.

[Tiberius]

I have 7950x3d and im lucky my mobo is not one of those problematic boards. The only problem i had was more to do with win11 tpm and power plan. I think its messing with the cpu (the temp rised up to 70c on idle).

What you need to knw tho is its a very hot cpu. Undervolting it wont stop the cpu to hit the thermal throttle temp from time to time.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Users still must go and download and install EVERY driver for your major components.

Motherboard Chipset, GPUs, Audio, LAN, WIFI, BT; etc.

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no issues on AM5 here patches for socket issues have been made as too x3D chips and to be expected on new platforms as ive learned bottom line NO FIRE YET!!!

[jeffpmaxs6]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Users still must go and download and install EVERY driver for your major components.

Motherboard Chipset, GPUs, Audio, LAN, WIFI, BT; etc.

All I installed was the gpu driver to use Adrenalin. I already had sound and Lan, so I’d figured I fix it later. Hehe. My soc reading was 1.8v in info, but everywhere else lower. I tried to flash the BIOS, which there were like 10 version. The last being a beta. Lol. I watch the video on how to do it, tried 2 diff size usb fat 32 and disabling soft start and still now luck. I tried, but nothings getting updated today. Lol. PC been great, besides the cpu climbing up to 90c during a game starting up one time. I think my BIOS is okay and I did try to update it and probably run the wheels off it. If it isn’t broke I don’t fix it.