RTX 4060, slower than a 3060Ti

[Cathulhu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS0sfOb_sVM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0srjKOOR4g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmcrikP7ALA

This thing is a waste of money and rare metals.

Man, the time where nVidia made actually good cards are really over, huh? Unless you want ABSOLUTE HIGH END. That's where nVidia still rules, but below high end? Not a good value proposition.

[JC]

i have a 144 monitor, but to be perfectly honest i really don't notice a difference in the games i play. I'm not a fast paced shooter person, I'm a turnbased strat, RPG or visual novel with some point and clicks thrown in for variety. The biggest/newest games i'd be playing on it in the future would be, Midnight sun's, Witcher III (which is old anyway but with RT) Lamplighters league, MS flight simulator.. Those are the games that would get something out of a newer card, everything else is just old with out RT.. Maybe Marvel's avengers, though i need to try that on my TV with a controller because i actually get motion sick sitting to close where i normally play but i've been meaning to try it on the ol Big screen. I dunno if Wyldermyth has RT, Wasteland 3 is another i'll be grabbing eventually. So those are my games i'll be playing in the next few years, with the new mass effects and dragon ages which are still a few years away, and star Citizen if it ever comes to launch. :)

and yes, That 12 GB is the other thing.. If they came out with a 4060 at 12 i wouldn't even think twice, but the bus means it needs to be 16GB.. Is there a 16GB 4060 with 125 draw coming, this generation has been so weird.

I really was hoping this was the one that i could finally get my other comp back running because i yanked it from the comp to use on this build with replacing it in the old comp eventually. The 3060 wouldn't give me enough performance and i don't really have many RT games right now so i basically just been waiting.

But all that aside, extra 80W draw, I never actually tested my comp to see what it draws an hour. I'm not exactly sure if the tester i have access to would work on a comp but i think it would go high enough seeing i think you can check a toaster oven and that pulls a lot.

[Cathulhu]

lailaamell95 původně napsal:

Duff původně napsal:

I cannot wait for the 4030 1GB version

would be useless 1gb of vram is useless

That was the point Duff was trying to make.

[Corona Scurrae]

at first I thought this was mostly nvidia, trying to compel people to buy the 3000 series stock and for the most part the pricing and segmenting of the 4000 ada lovelace confirms that but I have a bad feeling this is going to be the future.

instead of creating a 60 series that outclasses the last gen 80 series, they will rely on dlss and gimped memory bus to ensure nobody is allowed to play at higher resolutions in their respective tier.

[carl]

After the furry of condemnation has cleared I'm beginning to see the positives of this card to suit my own particular needs. It's now a toss up between the 4060 or 4070 unless AMD or Intel do something soonish to change my position.

https://youtu.be/4A1n6Mmj1M0

https://youtu.be/KU_Gq5Yhg6Q

[Pocahawtness]

NVIDIA is a complete waste of time these days, unless you can afford a 4090.

[r.linder]

carl původně napsal:

After the furry of condemnation has cleared I'm beginning to see the positives of this card to suit my own particular needs. It's now a toss up between the 4060 or 4070 unless AMD or Intel do something soonish to change my position.

The sad thing is that it's not innately a BAD card, it's just a disappointment because it's barely faster than the 3060, and sometimes slower, but for people who are using weak power supplies but don't want to or can't afford to upgrade and don't need higher performance anyway, it's not the worst thing in the world since it uses around 115W instead of 170W of its predecessor.

[Overseer]

尺．し工几句ヨ尺 původně napsal:

The sad thing is that it's not innately a BAD card, it's just a disappointment because it's barely faster than the 3060, and sometimes slower, but for people who are using weak power supplies but don't want to or can't afford to upgrade and don't need higher performance anyway, it's not the worst thing in the world since it uses around 115W instead of 170W of its predecessor.

If they would have sold it as 4050 for 199 nobody would have complained. But that price premium for less hardware is important for Nvidia.
And to be fair coming from like 2016 where a 1060 could have been had for 249, the new 299 price tag does not look too outrageous. Except its still 1080p and only 8 GB and only x8. And a 1060 was also listed as 120 Watts TDP. So except more frames and RTX not much has changed.

[r.linder]

Overseer původně napsal:

尺．し工几句ヨ尺 původně napsal:

The sad thing is that it's not innately a BAD card, it's just a disappointment because it's barely faster than the 3060, and sometimes slower, but for people who are using weak power supplies but don't want to or can't afford to upgrade and don't need higher performance anyway, it's not the worst thing in the world since it uses around 115W instead of 170W of its predecessor.

If they would have sold it as 4050 for 199 nobody would have complained. But that price premium for less hardware is important for Nvidia.
And to be fair coming from like 2016 where a 1060 could have been had for 249, the new 299 price tag does not look too outrageous. Except its still 1080p and only 8 GB and only x8. And a 1060 was also listed as 120 Watts TDP. So except more frames and RTX not much has changed.

Sad part is that it's still better than the 7600. Just costs more.

[JC]

Overseer původně napsal:

If they would have sold it as 4050 for 199 nobody would have complained. But that price premium for less hardware is important for Nvidia.
And to be fair coming from like 2016 where a 1060 could have been had for 249, the new 299 price tag does not look too outrageous. Except its still 1080p and only 8 GB and only x8. And a 1060 was also listed as 120 Watts TDP. So except more frames and RTX not much has changed.

Honestly if this card just had more ram i wouldn't think twice.. I'd run it for the next 6-8 years with no question. Everything i play works on a 1060 at full graphics and good frames, aka 60-100 with no dipping. The thing is i know in the future i'd need a bit more and i'd like some ray-tracing when it comes on games i pick up. I know some games on my radar are just going to need more, especially something i'm going to pick up in a few years.

It's just that stupid 8Gb ram that is really making me second guess it, and i don't want that higher power draw on the 4070 12GB, which is actually the perfect card minus the power, and it's like 500 bucks too. Maybe we will be surprised and some niviida manufacturer will make a 16 GB version, at that speed/power i think it would fly off the shelves.

My Power supply would work with the 1070, nivida recommends 650 for even an overclocked card so it's not like it's some major power hog, but still. I dunno, i think i just might keep pushing this old card along another couple years and i'll bet the 5060 then will be exactly what i need going forward, but man is that a long time to wait, though perhaps starcitizen will be launching then so it will make sense!

I guess i could put up with my i5-3050, 8GB and a 360 a little longer and make due due but i've had crashing issues sense the card swap. Maybe i didn't get a clean driver install going from nivida to AMD, Perhaps a fresh install will clean things up.

[River]

I dislike that most cards come with 8 GB now too. At least below $500 or $600 price mark.

[JC]

gamer původně napsal:

I dislike that most cards come with 8 GB now too. At least below $500 or $600 price mark.

I know,, it's like they did it just because they know it's not enough for the games coming in the near future, to get you to buy another card in a few years. They see how awesome the 1060 6Gb was and how well it survived the last 7 years or what ever. I got mine in 2018 and even then it had been out a bit because the prices spiked because of crypto i waited almost 2 years to pay exactly what the card was at launch.. I was kinda pissed about that, waiting that long to finish my PC build limping along on a 550 TI

[Illusion of Progress]

The GTX 1060 came out mid 2016, so I'm not sure how you got it in 2016 but also waited two years from its release date to get it.

I got mine (also still using it... for now...) late 2016 and I avoided the first cryptocurrency market issues. That happened a bit after the launch, so more in 2017 and maybe into 2018 I think.

[JC]

Sorry, I meant i built the computer in 2014, planned on getting it in 2016 which was a 2 year wait. It came out in the summer, but i was short on cash and thought the price might drop a bit like previous cards. It did not and i ended up waiting another 2 years till fall of 2018 because of crypto.. so 2016 was a typo should of been 18, But in reality i ended up waiting 2 years, then another 2 for a total of 4! Talk about crap timing ehh?

Still it's been a long time and it's actually the longest and best any vid card i've ever had has held up going back to my first P1 system and adding another 2 years to that, it blows away the next closest which really was nothing but a bottleneck for the last few years i used it which made it even worse.. try playing an online pvp game at 20 FPS :(

[ChickenBalls]

As Jensen Huang once said "The more you buy, the more you save!"
just shut up and give him your money

[HALO_run]

this isn't news it was a fact before they came out, anything other then the 4080 or 4090 isn't worth anything