Intel Turbo Boost

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As a heads up, for anyone gaming on a laptop that has an Intel CPU that reaches really high temps when gaming, it's worth turning this feature off. Yes, you'll lose some performance. But I use a mix of a Razer Book 13 and an RTX 3080 Aorus Gaming Box and although my GPU is never above 70 degrees, the CPU can reach the mid to high 80's under serious load and make parts of the keyboard a little uncomfortable to use. Turning off the Turbo Boost, I lose around 10fps, but the CPU goes from 85-90 to in the 60's. And therefore the laptop stays much cooler. I think it's worth the trade off.

To turn it off - Power Options > Edit Plan Settings > Change advanced power settings > Processor power management > Set Maximum processor state to 99% from 100%

Some may already know this of course. But maybe some won't.

[Julien, cut it out.]

I'm sorry OP, but that's not a good advice.
There are more sophisticated ways to achieve a better balance between performance and power consumption (heat) than disabling Intel's turbo boost.

When Turbo Boost is disabled, the CPU runs at its base frequency. But the base frequency depends on the TDP configuration the manufacturer has chosen (or designed the notebook for).
For the 1165G7, the lowest TDP (called TDP-down) is 12W and the highest TDP (called TDP-up) is 28W. Your suggestion will eventually result in different base frequencies - according to Intel from 1.2 GHz to 2.8 GHz - and therefore in performance on different systems.

Reduction in performance is also dependent on how efficient the application in question can distribute its workload on threads.
The highest reduction in performance will be in single-threaded/ lightweight multi-threaded applications when turbo boost is disabled. Many popular games are not heavily multi-threaded.
By default, a reduction in CPU frequency (core frequencies) happens, the more threads an application uses.

If available,
undervolt the CPU via offset (always recommended) and change turbo boost ratios if thermals are an issue.

If not available,
the best (and only) way to handle power consumption/heat and performance is the adjustment of the Power Limits (PL1 and PL2) and PL2's duration.

[Komarimaru]

Or, hear me out, turn your fans on? You don't buy a gaming laptop, to neuter it.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You don't need to go turning that off. Instead clean the dust out of your PC and maybe undercolt the cpu and enforce a max fps cap. Enforcing an fps cap such as 60, will help lower cpu and gpu temps

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bad 💀 Motha:

You don't need to go turning that off. Instead clean the dust out of your PC and maybe undercolt the cpu and enforce a max fps cap. Enforcing an fps cap such as 60, will help lower cpu and gpu temps

What dust? It's literally a couple of weeks old and spotless. Not gonna mess around undervlting as I have no idea what to do and I'm pretty sure it's not a great idea unless you do. I also always have V-Sync turned on anyway which I believe caps the games to 60fps.

[Guydodge]

not bad advice gaming laptops.are not designed to run high temps for hours on end
until you have actually burned a gaming laptop up (and i have)you might not get it. most dont have all the wonderful options your recieving here.10fps for years more service seems like a fair trade.i got a second laptop and kept it on balance power and its still alive 8 years later
(exact same one i melted in the first 6mths)

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Guydodge:

not bad advice laptops gaming or not.are not made to run high temps for hours on end
until you have actually burned a gaming laptop up (and i have)you might not get it. most dont have all the wonderful options your recieving here.10fps for years more service seems like a fair trade.i got a second laptop and kept it on balance power and its still alive 8 years later
(exact same one i melted in the first 6mths)

Yeah, I'm happy with it to be fair. Sure, under-volting is no doubt a better option but not everyone knows how to do such things. But knowing I can play games like Elden Ring and DayZ maxed out and my CPU is now staying in the 60's, and not pushing towards 90, it works for me personally. And it only takes a few clicks to do.

[Guydodge]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tyler:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Guydodge:

not bad advice laptops gaming or not.are not made to run high temps for hours on end
until you have actually burned a gaming laptop up (and i have)you might not get it. most dont have all the wonderful options your recieving here.10fps for years more service seems like a fair trade.i got a second laptop and kept it on balance power and its still alive 8 years later
(exact same one i melted in the first 6mths)

Yeah, I'm happy with it to be fair. Sure, under-volting is no doubt a better option but not everyone knows how to do such things. But knowing I can play games like Elden Ring and DayZ maxed out and my CPU is now staying in the 60's, and not pushing towards 90, it works for me personally. And it only takes a few clicks to do.

its good you have the undervolt option

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Any laptop you run a demanding game on its going to hit 85*C or higher ~ That's normal

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bad 💀 Motha:

Any laptop you run a demanding game on its going to hit 85*C or higher ~ That's normal

Yeah, I get that. I know the laptop isn't suddenly going to not work because the CPU temp is really high, and it can take those temps. But it does make the keyboard warm, and on the Razer Book I use the top of the keyboard gets extremely hot. Since I turned off the Turbo boost it barely gets lukewarm and I still get great performance. 50-55 degrees from the 3080 (I have a custom fan curve) and now 45-50 on the CPU when gaming I feel are pretty great temps.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well turning the Turbo off might help some where thermals are concerned but if you happen to want to run a game that can use the extra cpu power, that turbo will come in handy. Seeing as how on some laptop cpus, the Base is around 1.2-2.4Ghz and the Turbo helps bring it up well over 3Ghz. Not having the Turbo on could really matter in heavier work apps or with games.

What can really help is leave that on and undervolt the cpu because often times the way the cpu vcore is handled in an auto method, can get a bit out of hand and is what mainly can have the cpu running so hot to begin with.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bad 💀 Motha:

Well turning the Turbo off might help some where thermals are concerned but if you happen to want to run a game that can use the extra cpu power, that turbo will come in handy. Seeing as how on some laptop cpus, the Base is around 1.2-2.4Ghz and the Turbo helps bring it up well over 3Ghz. Not having the Turbo on could really matter in heavier work apps or with games.

What can really help is leave that on and undervolt the cpu because often times the way the cpu vcore is handled in an auto method, can get a bit out of hand and is what mainly can have the cpu running so hot to begin with.

I have no idea about under-volting though. Otherwise I would definitely give it a go. But I've tried a bunch of games now and the most I've lost with Turbo Boost off in any of the games I play is about 10-12fps. I can live with that seeing as the 3080 still gets me 60fps in anything I play, with V-Sync turned on. I generally play on a 17" 1440p 60Hz portable Monitor most of the time so don't need crazy fps personally as I wouldn't get the benefit anyway.

I was just surprised at how much turning Turbo Boost off helped cool the machine and thought it might be helpful to some. Clearly under-volting is the best way to go for those that know what they are doing!

[Bad 💀 Motha]

But yea if you're happy with the performance you getting with cpu turbo boost turned off, so be it.

[Dhuk Chuk]

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As a heads up, for anyone gaming on a laptop that has an Intel CPU that reaches really high temps when gaming, it's worth turning this feature off. Yes, you'll lose some performance. But I use a mix of a Razer Book 13 and an RTX 3080 Aorus Gaming Box and although my GPU is never above 70 degrees, the CPU can reach the mid to high 80's under serious load and make parts of the keyboard a little uncomfortable to use. Turning off the Turbo Boost, I lose around 10fps, but the CPU goes from 85-90 to in the 60's. And therefore the laptop stays much cooler. I think it's worth the trade off.

To turn it off - Power Options > Edit Plan Settings > Change advanced power settings > Processor power management > Set Maximum processor state to 99% from 100%

Some may already know this of course. But maybe some won't.

Was able to do this but it hadn't changed anything. If I go into quickcpu (or similar app.) my laptop chain crashes until I turn it back on. Do you know anything about fixing this? (ASUS Laptop if info helps)

[The_Abortionator]

You may only lose 10 FPS but thats just because razor makes ♥♥♥♥ laptops and you were already throttling.

Your advice benefits nobody who bought a quality product.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dhuk Chuk:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 🆃 🆈 🅻 🅴 🆁:

As a heads up, for anyone gaming on a laptop that has an Intel CPU that reaches really high temps when gaming, it's worth turning this feature off. Yes, you'll lose some performance. But I use a mix of a Razer Book 13 and an RTX 3080 Aorus Gaming Box and although my GPU is never above 70 degrees, the CPU can reach the mid to high 80's under serious load and make parts of the keyboard a little uncomfortable to use. Turning off the Turbo Boost, I lose around 10fps, but the CPU goes from 85-90 to in the 60's. And therefore the laptop stays much cooler. I think it's worth the trade off.

To turn it off - Power Options > Edit Plan Settings > Change advanced power settings > Processor power management > Set Maximum processor state to 99% from 100%

Some may already know this of course. But maybe some won't.

Was able to do this but it hadn't changed anything. If I go into quickcpu (or similar app.) my laptop chain crashes until I turn it back on. Do you know anything about fixing this? (ASUS Laptop if info helps)

Sorry, I don't. I sold my Razer not long after I made the original post and purchased a Zephyrus Duo instead. That has a Ryzen chip that is super toasty, but I've given up worrying about temps. Most gaming laptop CPU's can handle it.