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I speak as a user of the RX 6900 XT, RX 7900 XTX, and a GTX 1080 thrown in for good measure (though I'd be retiring the GTX 1080 HTPC rig, the 3900X + RX 6900 XT would assume the dual duty of 2nd gaming rig and HTPC). There's still more spit and polishing that needs to be done, especially after integrating the driver for the RX 7900 series with earlier cards. Some drivers are good, some great, some....um, are not that great, but that true for the green team as well.
xSOSxHawkens's link for the ASRock RX 6950 XT vs the Asus TUF RTX 3070 Ti is a good example of price/performance value of AMD cards. besides being way faster in rasterize gaming, the RX 6950 XT has twice, TWICE, the VRAM of the RTX 3070 Ti.
So, unless the Cuda cores are needed for certain productivity programs, there's absolutely no reason to pick the RTX 3070 Ti over the RX 6950 XT especially when the price difference boils down to just 50USD.
https://www.videogamer.com/tech/gpus/best-for-hogwarts-legacy/
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660S-Super-vs-Nvidia-RTX-3050/4056vs4127
Even a 2060 is way better.
you literally burn your money for such crap GPUs which so needs to be replaced soon, ..
pay a bit more and be satisfied easily for a decade. MINIMUM a 3060 ti, 3070, 3070 ti...
or also at least a 2080 S... by EVGA as long as they still sell them..
https://wccftech.com/latest-amd-radeon-graphics-drivers-reportedly-causing-pc-boot-issues-corrupting-windows/
I dunno, all I can say is, my newly built R9 3900X + X570S + 32GB RAM + RX 6900 XT system (reusing some older parts) and my newly upgraded 5900X + X570 + 32GB RAM + RX 7900 XTX systems are running just fine. Only thing for now is, I have to disable Freesync on my monitor to play some newer games without issue. Just finished more than 2 hours of Dead Space Remake without any issue.
With Freensync enabled, I'd get the odd 'Driver Timeout' freeze. Again, as I'd said, the driver for the RX 7900 series needs more polishing, but for the earlier cards, there shouldn't be a problem,
i don't think personal anecdote framed as representation of an entire consumer group is helpful in the long run. Nvidia and AMD both have their superfan base, each with their own personal anecdotes of seeming perfection.
in this case, user 1 suggested an EVGA 3070ti in a good faith effort to assist the OP, i suggested an Asus Tuf gaming 3070ti as an alternative. Perhaps the user who i originally replied to with the AMD driver problem should've just suggested a 3rd alternative instead of dismissing the other two user suggestions? Would've been less drama.
personally, i know nothing about AMD so i usually suggest Nvidia.
I was merely stating the truth, and as you'd put it, 'in good faith; effort to help the OP, as I did start two groups (one RX 7900 series, one 6000 series GPUs) with thousands of posts. And no, not all are in praises, sometimes, it's about driver issues, sometimes it's about installation, etc.....not everything is positive, but on a whole, both the groups are reporting good performance, with some performance issue/caveats.
I do use nVidia GPUs too, even running SLi rigs, likewise with AMD CrossFire rigs as well (last SLI rig was 2x GTX Titan, last CF rig was 2x VEGA64), and have been using cards from BOTH companies for years. The driver for the RX 7900 series still need a bit more spit and polish, I do find myself having to disable Freesync to run Dead Space Remake without crashing on my RX 7900 XTX.
Honestly, when priced almost similarly, could you argue the price/performance value of the RTX 3070 Ti 8GB (that you'd recommended "in good faith") against a much more powerful RX 6950 XT 16GB?
I'm not really a part of this but sounds contradictory.
You actually flat out stated that "AMD always has driver issues and tech complications. No-one wants to deal with that stuff" but at the same time just stated "personally I know nothing about AMD".
Even taking the link into consideration isn't enough to bail you out of you were to say "I was just forwarding what the article said" because it really sounds like the claim was coming g directly from you. And if you don't have any anecdotal evidence to back that up, the logic doesn't add up that its OK for you to come to a conclusion based on what you read and someone else can't come to a conclusion based on something they actually experienced.
I'm not sure of many reasons outside of not knowing better (which seems super common) would lead someone in the position of having less than around $500 to even look nVidia's direction in 2023. I don't get it. For anyone in that position, I really wouldn't be looking at a GTX 16 series or RTX 20 series card new unless you can get it SUPER (get the pun?) discounted; they're just too old now. And the RTX 30 series is overpriced.
*Siiiiiigh*...
I'm sitting here in mild disbelief that I just read the first thing, followed by the second thing, from the same person.
To top it off...
...You seem to reasonably get it. You get that such things aren't helpful, yet you turn around and do it yourself anyway? Why?
Like, I'm seriously in some disbelief here how these three things were just said by the same person.
If you acknowledge such a thing is not helpful, then why parrot the "AMD's drivers" FUD despite that? I don't get it...
Edit: Okay, the above two posts are calling it contradictory so its not just me. I was about to pull some hair out in frustration (not literally...) because I was shocked at the conflicting things I was reading.
*all prices are from current Newegg.
Do you know why?
Because so far the whole issue is:
Thats right. The reason so few outlets have run on this is because the whole issue at this time revolves around a minority of user complaints.
Minority, small group, anecdotal. Could become more, could become an issue, but at this time is nothing more than random reports of some users.
Meanwhile many more users on the same exact drivers are reporting major FPS boosts and major RT performance increases.
I am personally putting my money where my mouth is. Knowing these "reports" I installed the "trouble driver" on my 6900xt windows build the day after the first news article about the random reddit "reports". Also on my 6800xt build. Guess what. No issues.
This is (likely) no different than quite literally last month or two ago when all the same outlets ran with "BREAKING NEWZ AMD DRIVERZ KILL CARDZ".
https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-6000-gpus-mysteriously-start-dying-german-repair-shop-receives-48-cards-with-cracked-chips/
only for them to be proven entirely wrong and the cards being killed because they were water logged mis-stored miner refuge.
https://videocardz.com/newz/radeon-gpu-cracking-not-caused-by-drivers-storing-conditions-and-cryptomining-to-blame
Did any of the outlets or the forum peeps eat their words and say "Oh, guess there were no driver issues?" Nope. WCCFTech even "updated" the article with continued (and factually false) suppor that the drivers were at fault while everyone else called it what it was. A case of bad cards (litterally a whole case load of them) stored wrong, all sold in a local market, and thus all run (mostly) with the then current driver, which then (at no fault of the driver) were killed due to the miners storage.
But trying to be truthful does nothing to push views (both page and video) when you could possibly give fodder to the "AMD Sucks" bandwaggon.
To be clear, AMD *does* have driver issues, but nothing at all like many who frankly have no actual first hand knowledge make them out to be.
Exactly.
Meanwhile NV has plenty of its own driver issues (both current and historic) which constantly go under stated and non-discussed.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-driver-528-49-is-borked-on-the-Blade-18-RTX-4070-Razer-says-a-fix-should-be-coming-soon.697036.0.html
https://www.wepc.com/news/hogwarts-legacy-nvidia-driver-issues-and-how-to-fix-them/
https://piunikaweb.com/2023/02/28/cod-modern-warfare-2-bright-colorful-light-issue-troubles-players/
And thats without sourcing additionally to the historical card killing drivers that *actually* killed hardware, or the recent memory bug with discord
The double standard is frankly sad and helps no one. If anything the only ones around *actually* guilty of framing personal anecdote as a representation of an entire consumer group would be some media outlets looking to make waves, they are the ones that have taken a few hundred, or perhaps even a few thousand threads/posts and run it into a major issue.
If we do some simple table math, even if AMD had 10,000 user complaints, as long as that is spread out over 1,000,000 total users its still a 99% working rate failing for 1/100 users. To be clear, I think all three, AMD, Intel and Nvidia are all well below 1%, but the point is that even a few thousand, even tens of thousands, of complaints are likely still small beans.
Trust me, as a consumer I def dont like this. But as someone who has to deal with similar stuff in my job I have to remain mindful that just because a wheel is squeeking doesn't mean there is actually a real problem. Nothing in life is perfect, that includes Nvidia :p (And AMD)
Might as well get a 1660 super and not waste your money on garbage that's vram starved. Not that the 1660 super has a ton of vram, but at least you're not wasting your money. You can find them for sub $150.
There's no better GPU rght now when value is mentioned. The GPUs you mentioned actually have the worst value. 1660 super is a good GPU for Hogwarts. I can't say the same thing for 2000 and 3000 series. Those GPU suck for Hogwarts.
Individual claims like "i recommend Nvidia" and "Amd is bad" and "I know nothing about AMD" can all subsist within a singular individual's framework since there are multiple conversations with multiple people happening concurrently.
The age of the hypocritical gotcha is long gone, as multiple frames of reference and multiple states of knowledge can exist within the same framework. One can know nothing and yet still post relevant info about a topic. Such is the state of internet conversation.