RTX 4090 is not for Native 4K gaming with the latest game engine

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with a huge price tag of 3000$ (if youre lucky 2000$ + tax 2400$ Approximately) almost for a card its only able to barely touch 4K 60 fps on the Latest Game engine UNREAL ENGINE 5.1 ? so is it safe to assume ALL gpu's are designed to run games at 1440p and we should all be OK paying 3000$ just to be satisfied at 1080p and 1440p ?? it was not too long ago i remember a GTX 1080 TI was able to run games at 4k 60 yes it was based on games from that generation but shouldnt a GPU thats released now be able to run all games at atleast 4k 120 fps with the latest game engine IF its the top end GPU of current generation??

Sure if you use old generation engines it does reach that fps but what about the future games using the latest game engine ?? are we expected to pay 3000$ every year for the next gpu ??

Here is the benchmark and keep in mind i am only referring to NATIVE 4K not DLSS : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr7LpP7Dm4E


Update January 27 2023 : Newly released game Forespoken running at 4K Native at 43 FPS its not even been a year since 4090 release and this is its performance : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0u9l4Wkh9s

Update February 07 2023

Newly released game as of the date hogwarts legacy doesnt even get 60 fps : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dKUpcMckBg

Lets make sure to blame every single game developer from all different companies and pretend the RTX 4090 is actually a 4k card and all developers are doing everything wrong from all studios and all companies. Its DEFINITELY NOT NVIDIA pretending and Lying publicly about RTX 4090 being a true "Native 4k" GPU.

Lets all keep pretending.

[Zefar]

Picking one title and trying to claim every newer game will perform the same is not a good judgement.

The GPU is priced around $2500 what I've seen too.

[Tiberius]

Turn off ray tracing first

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Zefar a écrit :

Picking one title and trying to claim every newer game will perform the same is not a good judgement.

The GPU is priced around $2500 what I've seen too.

"one title" read the full context .. its talking about the "LATEST GAME ENGINE" which is Unreal Engine 5.1

[Zefar]

8==========D a écrit :

Zefar a écrit :

Picking one title and trying to claim every newer game will perform the same is not a good judgement.

The GPU is priced around $2500 what I've seen too.

"one title" read the full context .. its talking about the "LATEST GAME ENGINE" which is Unreal Engine 5.1

That's not how it works.

You can make a lot of different type of games with the Unreal Engine 5.1. Depending on what the developer makes of use of in the engine and how big of an area it needs to render it will generate different FPS values.

Anthem uses the Frostbite engine but so does Battlefield games. But Battlefield games runs a lot better than Anthem did.

[DeadBeat]

How many games are currently using UE 5.1?

[Illusion of Progress]

There really isn't such a thing as "designed for 4K" or "designed for 1440p" or anything. Consumers like to shoehorn the top end as for 4K, and the upper mid-range as for 1440p, and the entry level and lower mid-range as for 1080p, but there's nothing objective about it that makes it that way. It's just an arbitrary distinction. GPUs are just designed to process and that's it, with more powerful ones simply doing it faster, so it turns out they are more capable at higher resolutions where it needs more power to get the same results. If getting gains out of GPUs take advancements that are getting ever harder to come by, it's not like nVidia and AMD can just go "well, despite it becoming increasingly difficult and expensive to do this, we can't charge as much because it doesn't do 4K" because that's just an arbitrary measure of things.

Now sure, between the fact that CPUs are not getting faster at the rates they used to while GPUs are still getting faster at a decent rate, and the fact that games are more often GPU bottlenecked anyway, it lends to situations where GPUs are increasingly becoming more than fast enough for 1080p (and being CPU bottlenecked, at least in cases of higher frame/refresh rates) but maybe not fast enough 4K at everything (sometimes even at lower frame/refresh rates). The latter is specifically why things like upscaling tech and "fake frames" tech are a growing thing.

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DeadBeat a écrit :

How many games are currently using UE 5.1?

"currently" So you're saying i should ONLY consider a 3000$ GPU for the "current" games only NOT the Future games that WILL be using unreal engine 5.1 ? and next year i should spend another 3000$ for next games that comes out ??

[DeadBeat]

8==========D a écrit :

"currently" So you're saying i should ONLY consider a 3000$ GPU for the "current" games only NOT the Future games that WILL be using unreal engine 5.1 ? and next year i should spend another 3000$ for next games that comes out ??

Am I making a statement by asking a question?

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DeadBeat a écrit :

8==========D a écrit :

"currently" So you're saying i should ONLY consider a 3000$ GPU for the "current" games only NOT the Future games that WILL be using unreal engine 5.1 ? and next year i should spend another 3000$ for next games that comes out ??

Am I making a statement by asking a question?

your question implies No other games besides fortnite uses unreal engine 5.1 so "how many games use unreal engine 5.1?" it is indeed a statement

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DeadBeat a écrit :

Am I making a statement by asking a question?

your question implies No other games besides fortnite uses unreal engine 5.1 so "how many games use unreal engine 5.1?" it is indeed a statement

Also you asked ''CURRENTLY USING UE 5.1" so are you saying i should only worry about whats "CURRENT" with a 3000$ GPU or expect it to run future titles with new engines at decent fps when it cant even handle latest engine at 60 fps

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Zefar a écrit :

8==========D a écrit :

"one title" read the full context .. its talking about the "LATEST GAME ENGINE" which is Unreal Engine 5.1

That's not how it works.

You can make a lot of different type of games with the Unreal Engine 5.1. Depending on what the developer makes of use of in the engine and how big of an area it needs to render it will generate different FPS values.

Anthem uses the Frostbite engine but so does Battlefield games. But Battlefield games runs a lot better than Anthem did.

The point isnt that. Point is IF i go out and buy the I9 13900K and RTX 4090 both top tier hardware for CPU and GPU and i "EXPECT" it to run a game engine thats ready and available to be used in newer games with the latest technology shouldnt i expect it to handle 4k 120 atleast ?? why can it NOT handle the latest game engine unreal engine 5.1 ?? so does that mean can it handle other games that will also use unreal engine 5.1 or newer for newer games??

[DeadBeat]

8==========D a écrit :

your question implies No other games besides fortnite uses unreal engine 5.1 so "how many games use unreal engine 5.1?" it is indeed a statement

Wait a minute. There's only one game that uses UE 5.1? Haha too funny.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

First of all, RTX 4090 is not $3000. It's readily available for $2000 on Newegg and other places.

And, there is no definitive scales for running games on any given resolution. GPU power is increasing but so is modern game's graphics quality and demand, it's a continuous process.

But nevertheless, the 4090 can run most New games at 4k well above 60 fps, unless you put some crazy amounts of Anti-aliasing or some similar kinds of unreal settings, or some super high Ray-Tracing.

[DeadBeat]

🦜Cloud Boy🦜 a écrit :

First of all, RTX 4090 is not $3000. It's readily available for $2000 on Newegg and other places.

And, there is no definitive scales for running games on any given resolution. GPU power is increasing but so is modern game's graphics quality and demand, it's a continuous process.

But nevertheless, the 4090 can run most New games at 4k well above 60 fps, unless you put some crazy amounts of Anti-aliasing or some similar kinds of unreal settings, or some super high Ray-Tracing.

I live in Canada so it is pushing 3k with taxes for one of those bad boys brand new for an AIB.

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DeadBeat a écrit :

🦜Cloud Boy🦜 a écrit :

First of all, RTX 4090 is not $3000. It's readily available for $2000 on Newegg and other places.

And, there is no definitive scales for running games on any given resolution. GPU power is increasing but so is modern game's graphics quality and demand, it's a continuous process.

But nevertheless, the 4090 can run most New games at 4k well above 60 fps, unless you put some crazy amounts of Anti-aliasing or some similar kinds of unreal settings, or some super high Ray-Tracing.

I live in Canada so it is pushing 3k with taxes for one of those bad boys brand new for an AIB.

Check my profile im in Vancouver .