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If it's ddr5 and below that, congrats, you have less performance than ddr4 that cost half the price and should stop giving advice.
i didnt add those conditions though and gave the answer you want atleast 7200 at good timings to make it worth the cost, anything lower is pointless.
also, if its for gaming they would be better off with intel, its cheaper, faster and can run ddr4.
high freq with low timings is where it counts
speed / cl
In a post asking for recommendations on DDR5, on a platform that only supports DDR5, your contribution was a generalization of "DDR4 is better than DDR5, and if you can't get the latter to a frequency the platform won't even run at in practice, don't bother and anyone who disagrees with that is unworthy of giving advice" and now you're pivoting to "maybe the platform is the problem" to make that work?
If you want to make an argument for DDR4 over DDR5, why not create a general thread for it with supporting reasons or whatever and have at it? Then the people who care about that broader subject can weigh in there. If you want to recommend OP away from DDR5 in favor of DDR4, and even to an entirely different platform that would require, sure, have at it if you have a reasonable place from which to suggest it. Everyone is free to give their input. But your original post was largely a generalization of DDR4 being better than DDR5, and anyone who disagrees or has DDR5 at not-out-of-this-world frequencies should feel bad and not give advice.
It's been shown that even "lower" frequency stuff, you know, one of the conditionals you ascertained must be "close to 8,000 MHz to be worth it", can do well, and that's even on a platform where you, ideally IMO, want to have something like 6,000 MHz for sake of the Infinity Fabric if you can help it. But even if not, the "slower" stuff has proven it can hold up very well, so you CERTAINLY don't "need near 8,000 MHz" to make DDR5 not worth avoiding. If the discussion is about games especially, most games aren't bandwidth intensive enough to need the frequency of DDR5 at the levels you're describing, and you can't really argue that but at the same time say DDR4 is better (because it certainly doesn't compete on bandwidth, but on timings). With lower timings, DDR5 can also do well. And sure, the faster DDR4 might compete well with DDR5 (either slower DDR5 or just in general), but I think you're not going to have the "half the cost" conditional in that case. And if the discussion is about more than games, the extra bandwidth may provide what DDR4 just won't match.
If you want make an announcement that DDR5 isn't worth it, and that AM5 isn't worth it for games, well, good luck making convincing arguments of those things that are more than opinionated generalizations.
Fact is, until you go pretty high end of start tuning your memory, ddr5 is slower than good ddr4 that costs less.
The AM5 platform OP is looking at buying into is both more expensive, often slower and has a bunch of unique quirks that the current Intel offering does not have.
Now, you can go ahead and give bad advice all you want, but when there is a better, cheaper option, I feel it is only right to point that out.
If it's not on the high end, ddr5 is kind of a waste of money, even then its of limited benefit, so, yeah, selecting the platform that is more expensive and slower for gaming (gaming forum remember) that forces you to use ddr5 then cannot really take advantage of it, is daft.
Unless you like wasting money.
after they start making improvements on performance, and price drops some it will be worth it
My assertion is that you came into a thread asking for recommendations on DDR5 for a possible platform that only uses DDR5, and your contribution was merely "don't use DDR5 (which by extension means don't use AM5, though you didn't state this at first), and anyone recommending it who can't get near the speeds I mentioned shouldn't give advice", and that assertion isn't wrong; it is what you did. Yet I'M the one making assertions!?
It seems like you just wanted an outlet to grind an axe of fast DDR4 over DDR5.
I'm also not sure what bad advice I gave when my lone advice to OP in this thread was to suggest (and not assert, but suggest) matching the Infinity Fabric if OP does go with an AM5 option. That was my lone advice before I responded to you, and if that's what you consider bad advice, then I don't want to be what you consider right. Or maybe you're just saying everyone who posted in the entire thread gave bad advice for not asserting DDR5 and AM5 were bad options like you did?