Best way to make 60fps look good on a high refresh screen

[SenMithrarin85]

I recently bought a 165hz 1440p gsync compatible monitor (gigabyte m27q) and it's honestly been a double edged sword ...

Games that support unlocked framerates are great to play at that high FPS. Sadly games that don't (hard coded to 60 like fighters/japanese ports etc) are the problem.

I tried to do my research as best I could and bought a monitor that was supposed to handle 60hz as well as it's peak refresh so that both ends of the spectrum were good. Sadly that's not what I'm seeing. "Seeing" perhaps being the operative word.

I've read a few forum threads and some people are saying that since 165 doesn't divide evenly by 60, then it will look choppy. It would also explain why anything below 80 looks bad to my eyes.

But equally, I thought gsync was supposed to prevent that issue by matching the refresh to the FPS at the time?

[_I_]

use gsync/freesync

it will lower the refresh rate to the gpu output

if watching a video that 60fps be sure to use full screen mode so it changes the output to the correct rate, desktop mode will always be what windows is set to

[SenMithrarin85]

Originally posted by _I_:

use gsync/freesync

it will lower the refresh rate to the gpu output

if watching a video that 60fps be sure to use full screen mode so it changes the output to the correct rate, desktop mode will always be what windows is set to

That's what I do.

[jeffpmaxs6]

My G monitor doesn’t like any less the 85hz. It’s a 144hz, but feel that’s too much work on the monitor and only use 100-120hz. 120hz div by 2 would be 60. Use what works best.

[Tiberius]

Enable variable refresh rate in windows setting. Enable freesync on your monitor. Play at lower setting. Buy a better gpu

[SenMithrarin85]

Originally posted by Tiberius:

Enable variable refresh rate in windows setting. Enable freesync on your monitor. Play at lower setting. Buy a better gpu

the games i refer to are hard coded to 60fps. I should have been clearer. OP updated.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Buy a better Monitor. Most of the Gigabyte ones are more/less mid range options. Their panels aren't that great and neither is the anti-ghosting of said panels.

Anything above 30 fps should look super fluid smooth if you actually buy a quality panel.

Don't change the refresh rate. If it's rated for 144hz then ALWAYS use that refresh rate. The FPS shouldn't matter on most panels. If GSync is not working properly then disable that in NVIDIA CP and set Vertical Sync = Fast ans aet Low Latency Mode from Ultra to On. As Ultra is only good when GSync is enabled and working properly. Also try setting the max FPS to 72 in NVCP and see how that does.

Also despite what many seem to think, most NVIDIA gpus won't run properly if the power mode is on anything other then perfer max performance. This helps avoid in-game stuttering quite a bit. However when set this way at all times, your gpu is going to use more power as it will always have the higher 3d clocks active at all times.

Some games feel a bit clunky by design when playing with keyboard. They sometimes never feel smooth unless using a controller.

[Keith]

Even if your monitor didn't have GSync it isn't locked to 165Hz. You should be able to run it at 60Hz or 120Hz to get a multiple of 60. 120 is a good choice as that's also a multiple of 24 which is a common frame rate for video. (165 isn't a multiple of anything so I'm not sure of the logic of it!)

Depending on the refresh rate you want, you may need to configure a custom mode in Nvidia Control Panel, and tick the option to "enable resolutions not exposed by the display".

But you should be able to avoid all this for games by just using Gsync. If the game is running in borderless or windowed mode, you will need to enable Gsync "for windowed and full screen mode".

[Azza ☠]

Are you able to return that monitor and swap or refund?
It supports Adaptive-Sync, but isn't a true G-SYNC monitor. G-SYNC compatible monitors just make sync with the cable two-way communication, rather than a real G-SYNC module built into the monitor. It's just VESA's A-Sync protocols via cable, which both AMD and Nvidia can do. It might be able to do a bit, but not as much as a real G-SYNC would.

If possible, swap it for an ASUS ROG PG279Q or Acer Predator XB271HU. Those are both similar spec, so get whatever one is cheaper in your country. ISP Panels 165Hz with low response time and G-SYNC modules which will make your gaming butter smooth so long you can keep 30 FPS or higher with your graphics card. A real G-SYNC module might cost a lot more though.

V-SYNC is what needs to divide evenly to 30, 60 or 120, etc. If you get 59 FPS, it will suddenly drop between 60 to 30 for example, causing a stutter. Without it however, it will create a screen tear. Under the game(s), try toggling on or off V-SYNC, depending on what FPS your graphics card can dish out.

G-SYNC on the other hand will sync your monitor to whatever FPS your graphics card dishes out, such as that drop off 59 FPS, 55 FPS, back up to 64 FPS. It's a fix for that V-SYNC issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT8f_1oRsLU

To enable G-SYNC, you need to use DisplayPort 1.4 cable from the graphics card to the monitor, upgrade your graphic card drivers to the latest version, then right-click your desktop > Nvidia Control Panel > Display > Setup G-SYNC, tick enable and set it for both Windowed and Full Screen mode.

Nvidia released an update several years ago which lets you use V-SYNC on or off in games along side with G-SYNC enabled. It now only activates V-SYNC above your max monitor refresh rate. So if you had a 120Hz monitor, V-SYNC enabled will cap at 120 FPS max and anything below that like 115 FPS, would be handled with G-SYNC rather than dropping to 60 as V-SYNC would of done. So you can have both enabled.

What graphics card are you using to juice the display?

[timbim3112]

The same exact thing happens on my 180hz lg ultragear 24gs60f monitor, it definitely has proper gsync and vrr but anything below 100 looks choppy as OP mentioned, has someone found a fix?

[_I_]

lower fps will look choppy compared to much higher fps

doesnt make a diff if its a 1000+hz display or 144hz
100fps or when reduced to that using gsync/freesync will look like 100hz vs the max refresh of the display


lower settings so fps can stay higher, or enable fake frames or res scaling to help get higher fps

[timbim3112]

You don't get it, I'm not used to high fps or anything, even 60 should look buttery smooth in single player slow paced games, but it's a choppy mess, I've watched benchmarks and 60 fps looks smooth

[_I_]

60fps is not buttery smooth

https://www.testufo.com/



https://www.testufo.com/framerates-versus#photo=quebec.jpg&pps=960&framepacingerror=0&framerate=60

[Bing Chilling]

Originally posted by timbim3112:

You don't get it, I'm not used to high fps or anything, even 60 should look buttery smooth in single player slow paced games, but it's a choppy mess, I've watched benchmarks and 60 fps looks smooth

videos have perfect frame pacing and is why they look smoother.
games do not have perfect frame pacing. Your eyes will eventually get used to 60fps again but it takes awhile if your going from games that run at 100+fps back to 60fps on high refresh monitor, made even worse if you don't have gsync or freesync

[_I_]

and shows/movies use alot of blur and other effects to hide lower framerates so its not as noticeable

games may have higher fps, but can look more stuttery if pacing is odd or not at or above rate with vsync on

[wesnef]

Originally posted by _I_:

60fps is not buttery smooth

It was for the decades that all the FPS Snobs cried about "60fps or nothing!"