Why would people buy a Radeon GPU?

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Every GPU comparison site I've used shows that NVIDIA GPUs offer noticeably better performance compared to similarly priced Radeon GPUS.

I currently have a Radeon GPU but I'm thinking of swapping it for an NVIDA in the future. I was just wondering if there are any advantages to using a Radeon GPU since every comparison I've done on them shows that Radeons are inferior with little to know advantages over NVIDIAS.

[Fake]

Because it's their money.

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Fake の投稿を引用：

Because it's their money.

I was looking for a serious answer. Does Radeon have any advantages over NVDIA?

[Cathulhu]

Yes, nVidia offers more performance, but you are paying for it as well.
If you stop looking at the 4090 and go a step below to the 4080(ti) and compare that to AMDs offereings, you will see that AMD competes rather well when it comes to rasterization rendering.

True, when it comes to Raytracing, AMD clearly can not compete, but neither can Intel. Still, AMD shortened the distance with the latest GPU generation and i don't think they'll stop working on that.

[Haruspex]

Price/performance ratio is almost always better with a comparable AMD device. AMD is also undoubtedly the way to go if you are running Linux.

Beyond that, it's mostly business politics. I personally don't care for how Nvidia does business, and I really like how AMD supports open standards, so I want to support AMD, even if there's a technically better Nvidia card I could get.

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Bishop Black の投稿を引用：

Every GPU comparison site I've used shows that NVIDIA GPUs offer noticeably better performance compared to similarly priced Radeon GPUS.

Can you provide links to these sites that show this?

[Night FM]

Thanks, the latest comparsion I did was for the recommended graphics cards for Forza Horizon 5 (Nvidia GTX 1070 vs Raden RX 590):

Both are valued at $200, but the NVIDA GPU is rated at 20-50% better performance in several categories:

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-vs-AMD-RX-590/3609vs4033

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You can find an RX 6700 XT for about 370usd to 400usd and higher. An RTX 3060 can be had for 350USD to 400USD and higher. If you compare their rasterize gaming performance, the RX 6700 XT outperforms the RTX 3060 by a pretty good margin, thus it has better bang for buck when compared to nVidia cards.

And at this performance and price level, RT isn't a big factor as performance would tank hard for both cards, but more so the RX 6700 XT. You can argue DLSS for the RTX 3060, but the RX 6700 XT has FSR, which is even available to nVidia cards. I dislike nVidia walled-garden ecosystem approach, locking you into their proprietary technology.

Just look at DLSS3 frame generating upscaler, only for RTX 4000 cards, RTX3000 and RTX 2000 series card owner are left in the dust. Meanwhile, AMD is working on FSR3 frame generating upscaler, which would be available to as many cards as they could get it to support, and that includes nVidia and Intel cards as well. I like AMD's open support which is why I support them with my purchase of their cards, pretty sure I'd be very happy with the MERC 310 RX 7900 XTX I had gotten.

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Bishop Black の投稿を引用：

Thanks, the latest comparsion I did was for the recommended graphics cards for Forza Horizon 5 (Nvidia GTX 1070 vs Raden RX 590):

Both are valued at $200, but the NVIDA GPU is rated at 20-50% better performance in several categories:

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-vs-AMD-RX-590/3609vs4033

Please do not use Userbenchmark for comparisons of competing GPUs and CPUs, it is well known that Userbenchmark skews performance measurements heavily against AMD. Many review sites have criticized the way they change their method of measurement to favor Intel and nVidia.

Even the Reddit Intel sub forum has banned Userbenchmark because even they couldn't stomach the crazy skewed results and favortism shown by them.

https://www.gizmosphere.org/stop-using-userbenchmark/

https://ownsnap.com/userbenchmark-biased-admin/

Watch the vid on this site, it gives a rundown as to when Userbenchmark became the crap site it is today.
https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/why-you-shouldnt-use-sites-like-userbenchmark/25752

IF you want to use it to compare nVidia cards against nVidia cards, or Intel CPU against Intel CPU, then perhaps an argument can be made for it. Other than that, it's good for entertainment only and is thus, good for a laugh.

Dit - BTW, if you can get either the GTX 1070 or the RX 590 at the same price, get the former, it is faster, no arguments there.

[Illusion of Progress]

Bishop Black の投稿を引用：

Every GPU comparison site I've used shows that NVIDIA GPUs offer noticeably better performance compared to similarly priced Radeon GPUS.

This isn't necessarily the case though. To the contrary, there was a thread here a while back using a Toms Hardware article as a source for showing AMD provided a better price for performance at EVERY price range right now. nVidia had good hardware, and stellar performance (and AMD can not match them on that right now, as seen with the RTX 4090), but they are shifting more into a premium brand. Especially if you do care about ray tracing, it's a big consideration for a lot of people on if it's worth spending up for. That answers why people would buy a Radeon.

And someone else said it, but userbenchmark is an awful source. It never was good because it's one of a few dozen SEO businesses and nothing more, but worse it's a biased (either towards Intel and nVidia, or against AMD, either way) one at that. Trust review sites, not SEO businesses.

Compare an RX 6700 XT to a RTX 3060 Ti. Or a a 6800 XT to a RTX 3070/Ti. At similar pricing, you tend to get more (rasterized) performance with AMD right now by trading off ray tracing performance.

Most people don't buy four figure GPUs, nor even the ones anywhere near below that. Regulars on tech communities focusing on the latest couple of generations are a minority. Most people buy far cheaper than that (look at the top dozen most used GPUs on Steam and x50 and x60 tiers dominate the list, even the x70 is rare there. These mid-range cards aren't that great for ray tracing to begin with. Not saying they can't do it well, but the normal person who buys one and uses it for years probably won't be able to use it on games throughout the entire life of the time they keep it to justify having less rasterized performance in its place. Or at least that's how I feel about it. Ray tracing isn't a priority for everyone, so this pretty much answers why people would buy Radeon.

Your question seems backwards to me, if anything. We have two options, and one (nVidia) is dominating in market saturation, but the other is the better value right now. What they can't do is meet nVidia is raw performance at the top. So unless you're buying at the performance segment AMD can't even meet (which is solely the RTX 4090, maybe the RTX 4080 if factoring ray tracing), it seems AMD should have a better representation. But nVidia has a lot of "mind share" and there's a lot of FUD about AMD's drivers (which isn't founded on nothing, mind you) which probably helps keeps many people with nVidia. Then there's legitimate things nVidia does better (some production/content creation/whatever).

Incidentally, I have a GTX 1060 and am looking at upgrading soon. I am loyal to no brand. If nVidia provides a better option, I will buy it. But it's looking like that better option won't be nVidia this time (plus I'm, ironically, having driver frustrations with nVidia, albeit it minor ones thankfully).

[Longy999]

My 6800XT more than often out performs my mates 3080, at a much lower price point

Ray tracing is absolutely god awful on them though

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Longy999 の投稿を引用：

My 6800XT more than often out performs my mates 3080, at a much lower price point

Ray tracing is absolutely god awful on them though

The trouble is getting thru that nVidia marketing, and mindshare....seems like any and every newbie who wants a new GPU can only think of nVidia only.

[The Grin]

Longy999 の投稿を引用：

My 6800XT more than often out performs my mates 3080, at a much lower price point

Ray tracing is absolutely god awful on them though

RTX 3080 -> Ray Tracing is godlike.
I want proof that it looks "god awful" like you say.

[marlicious]

In terms of raster performance, the AMD GPUs are close, slightly better or on par with NVIDIA, with similar power consumption and heat development. AMD prices are often lower and not everyone needs ray tracing. The AMD drivers are also good. AMD is also catching up when it comes to ray tracing. Why not support that?

I have been very happy with my 980 TI from June 2015 to January 2022. The 980TI is still running, by the way. No performance or temperature issues. I have also been very satisfied with my 6900XT and 6600XT since January 2022. I am sure that they will also provide many years of faithful service.

The bad-mouthing between AMD and NVIDIA is a hobby of idiots for idiots. Please excuse this phrasing.

[pasa]

>This isn't necessarily the case though.

Yeah, OP should be switch sites to get info :)

>and there's a lot of FUD about AMD's drivers (which isn't founded on nothing, mind you)

That's not completely true. In the past, especially around when gtx 700 was recent, N indeed had lot of advantage. Maybe not really in the drivers (but they were on a short cycle addressing every current game's issues both with crashes and performance), but that studios were pretty obviously not testing on other cards. So whoever planned to play games within 6 month of release were wise to go nvidia.

That "wisdom" still keep lingering, despite the world changed since. nvidia picked up bad habits and went down on quality by a LOT (and never mind how they abandoned their users dropping improvement of earlier cards. Most blatantly with the gtx 900 series). While others improved. And studios now do more balanced testing.

[Introverted Gamer]

Radeon GPU Bang for Bucks, Honestly. If Nvidia wasn't priced so high people would jump on to them, and the Hate Bandwagon wouldn't existed.