Aspect 么 2023년 1월 9일 오후 10시 34분
1660 super.
8 months ago I bought a new pc with rx6500xt and i3-10100 so I can stream CS GO. But I found out that my GPU didn't have encoder so I had to stream through my CPU. But it's not the best quality. So I was wondering if I buy 1660 super will I be able to stream only CS GO on 936p 60 fps without any input lag and fps issues.
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8 months ago I bought a new pc with rx6500xt and i3-10100 so I can stream CS GO. But I found out that my GPU didn't have encoder so I had to stream through my CPU. But it's not the best quality. So I was wondering if I buy 1660 super will I be able to stream only CS GO on 936p 60 fps without any input lag and fps issues.

Easily , I run a 1660ti (virtually the same as a super but about %5 faster) with a 6 core i5 9400F and 16GB DDR4 @ 2666MHz and stream a few source games such as Left 4 dead and even more modern games like RDR2 at 1080p 60 fps with not one issues or any frame rate issues / drops. The Nvenc encoder in the 16 series is ample

My CPU does not have an iGPU so If you do have an iGPU then as said above use it for encoding
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xSOSxHawkens 2023년 1월 10일 오전 2시 56분 
You should be able to use Intel Quicksync from the iGPU to handle the stream encode.

It should be more than capable to push a reasonable 1080p stream without issue.

I was able to use Quicksync for streaming and capture using a 6500xt on an ancient i7-2700k 2nd gen. Worked fine. Depending on the game I saw a ~3-10fps drop with average at about 5 vs the frame rates when not recording or streaming.

For streaming specifically, the 2700k had less than ideal quality, but by 4th gen haswell the quick sync encoder was more capable and any blockiness or frame drops on the 2700k we're gone using Quicksync on a 4790k.

Even being an i3, your 10th gen should equal or better the 2nd and 4th gen Intel HD offerings.

But to answer the question, yes, you could use a 1660. Little reason to. As the upgrade vs the 1650s like 6500xt would be meh. But you could.

Better off saving for a bigger upgrade and getting OBS or similar sorted to use the iGPU.
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Bad 💀 Motha 2023년 1월 10일 오전 4시 39분 
Yes your Intel HD Graphics device can better handle being a GPU Hardware Encoder, even without a Display connected to it. It's one reason that the Intel GPU shows up and should keep its official driver updated as it can perform various tasks by certain apps, such as being used for encoding.
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Bob the Boomer 2023년 1월 10일 오전 4시 57분 
Aspect님이 먼저 게시:
8 months ago I bought a new pc with rx6500xt and i3-10100 so I can stream CS GO. But I found out that my GPU didn't have encoder so I had to stream through my CPU. But it's not the best quality. So I was wondering if I buy 1660 super will I be able to stream only CS GO on 936p 60 fps without any input lag and fps issues.

Easily , I run a 1660ti (virtually the same as a super but about %5 faster) with a 6 core i5 9400F and 16GB DDR4 @ 2666MHz and stream a few source games such as Left 4 dead and even more modern games like RDR2 at 1080p 60 fps with not one issues or any frame rate issues / drops. The Nvenc encoder in the 16 series is ample

My CPU does not have an iGPU so If you do have an iGPU then as said above use it for encoding
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Bad 💀 Motha 2023년 1월 10일 오전 5시 08분 
If you seriously getting a different GPU then look around for RTX 2060. On many sites the 1650 and 1660 series is right near the same pricing as a 2060. Any 2060 would be a huge step above anything in the 16 series lineup.

Again though use software like OBS Studio or SLOBS. These apps are great for recording or live streaming. And they offer extensive options. In the options of such an app, select the INTEL GPU for encoding and see how that does.

If for some reason it doesn't fair well at 1920x1080, then try recording at 1600x900 or 1366x768 or 1280x720
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Aspect 么 2023년 1월 10일 오전 5시 22분 
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
If you seriously getting a different GPU then look around for RTX 2060. On many sites the 1650 and 1660 series is right near the same pricing as a 2060. Any 2060 would be a huge step above anything in the 16 series lineup.

Again though use software like OBS Studio or SLOBS. These apps are great for recording or live streaming. And they offer extensive options. In the options of such an app, select the INTEL GPU for encoding and see how that does.

If for some reason it doesn't fair well at 1920x1080, then try recording at 1600x900 or 1366x768 or 1280x720
Yes everyone told me to buy the 2060 but in my country the 2060 is 200$ more expensive so for a 17 yo who doesn't work it's gonna be a bit expensive but I'll think about it. Thanks you all for the advices
emoticorpse 2023년 1월 10일 오전 5시 31분 
What program are you using to encode? I am guessing you are talking about capturing game play.

Software matters here, and for the record cpu encoding is better quality than gpu encoding. At least that's the consensus. Speed is the issue though. Gpu is much faster than cpu, and to the average user the quality should be equally satisfying.

I am thinking there is a good chance your issue can be solved by trying other software/settings.
Aspect 么 2023년 1월 10일 오전 5시 39분 
emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:
What program are you using to encode? I am guessing you are talking about capturing game play.

Software matters here, and for the record cpu encoding is better quality than gpu encoding. At least that's the consensus. Speed is the issue though. Gpu is much faster than cpu, and to the average user the quality should be equally satisfying.

I am thinking there is a good chance your issue can be solved by trying other software/settings.
I'm using OBS and the only game that I stream is CS:GO. When I'm not on stream my fps i around 350 and when I go live it's around 180-200 fps and I have input lag like the game feels so laggy I can barely play on stream that's why I'm avoiding streaming for now. And the stream is a little pixelated when I make faster moves or a lot is happening on screen like molotovs and smokes. The only option I have on OBS for encoding x264 so I guess this is my CPU. That's the only reason I'm looking for a better GPU it's the input lag and stream quality that annoy me the most.
emoticorpse 2023년 1월 10일 오전 5시 40분 
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What program are you using to encode? I am guessing you are talking about capturing game play.

Software matters here, and for the record cpu encoding is better quality than gpu encoding. At least that's the consensus. Speed is the issue though. Gpu is much faster than cpu, and to the average user the quality should be equally satisfying.

I am thinking there is a good chance your issue can be solved by trying other software/settings.
I'm using OBS and the only game that I stream is CS:GO. When I'm not on stream my fps i around 350 and when I go live it's around 180-200 fps and I have input lag like the game feels so laggy I can barely play on stream that's why I'm avoiding streaming for now. And the stream is a little pixelated when I make faster moves or a lot is happening on screen like molotovs and smokes. The only option I have on OBS for encoding x264 so I guess this is my CPU. That's the only reason I'm looking for a better GPU it's the input lag and stream quality that annoy me the most.

I will try to help a bit more later on but am at work now.
Aspect 么 2023년 1월 10일 오전 5시 42분 
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I'm using OBS and the only game that I stream is CS:GO. When I'm not on stream my fps i around 350 and when I go live it's around 180-200 fps and I have input lag like the game feels so laggy I can barely play on stream that's why I'm avoiding streaming for now. And the stream is a little pixelated when I make faster moves or a lot is happening on screen like molotovs and smokes. The only option I have on OBS for encoding x264 so I guess this is my CPU. That's the only reason I'm looking for a better GPU it's the input lag and stream quality that annoy me the most.

I will try to help a bit more later on but am at work now.
Okay thanks!
emoticorpse 2023년 1월 10일 오전 7시 23분 
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I will try to help a bit more later on but am at work now.
Okay thanks!

Let me ask, is the problem that it is choppy or that you half half the fps? Like if you got 180 fps bit it felt smooth, would you still be OK or you need the fps at 300 along with it being smooth?
emoticorpse 2023년 1월 10일 오전 7시 32분 
Also someone in a reddit thread mentioned this...

"Hijacking your comment to say that people with APU's can switch to the 6500 and still use the integrated gpu for encoding in something like obs for example."

Sounds like a good idea to play with, but I don't know how to execute that because I have never had a gpu/apu system.
Aspect 么 2023년 1월 10일 오전 9시 53분 
My game is lagging but on stream is fine that's the problem with me and the pixelated part
emoticorpse 2023년 1월 10일 오전 10시 29분 
Glad you figured it out, I hadn't realized everyone already told you what I was getting at.
Bad 💀 Motha 2023년 1월 10일 오후 3시 41분 
Lock your FPS to around 60 to help the CPU do better.

But yes don't buy any GPU unless you can really afford a better one worth buying.

You could try selling the RX 6500 and see how much you can fetch for it. Then put that money towards a decent NVIDIA GPU perhaps. However before you ever do that, make sure your power supply is enough for such an upgrade.
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