Liquid cooling on a new pc rattling very hard (AiO cooler).

[The Grin]

I bought a gamer PC last year around April Win 10/ AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor 3.80 GHz/ RTX 3080 10 Gb.
This is my first liquid cooled gamer pc.
After having the pc for 2 months I noticed that it began doing "bubble/rattle noises" during some game session.

The noise was really disturbing and I brought it back to the after sales service.
The tech made some tests with a few programes he installed directly on my admin session:
Core Temp, CPUID CPU- Z and OCCT.

Result: my pc works perfectly and there was no rattling at all even if pushed to the max during stress tests.
What they changed was the CPU paste.

I take back my pc can play without any rattling or at least with very "short 3 seconds rattlings".
So all worked fine until end of november where the rattling came back and is now even worse than it was before.

Some games asking for more ressources but being frankly stable: 60 to 100 fps make it rattle like crazy. The sound is really loud (like a small drill) and can be heard through the whole appartment.

I heared it's airbubbles stuck into the pump.

The rattling occurs during game session (not on all games) rattling is permanent on some games and occurs once in a while on some other games.
Sometimes it even rattles when I just use the anti virus for a scan or when the pc shuts down normally.

Now my questions:

Do I have a bad quality liquid in that pc or is because I have an AiO liquid cooler ? I heard there is like 10% air in the AiO water coolers and there are frequent problems with those coolers.

Is long term rattling dangerous for the processor and pc health? Should I ask for the After sales ot change the liquid or even replace the AiO cooler by another cooler ?

[The Grin]

BTW, it's this PC, just with an RTX 3080:

https://www.grosbill.com/univers-gamer/pc-assembles/pc-gamer-grosbill-324-90153.aspx

[Supafly]

Had my AIO for 2+years and never had that issue. If it's an air bubble, unlikely with the way it's installed. Air bubbles only cause noise if getting into the pump and the pump is at the lowest point.

I'm not convinced its air bubbles but you could try propping up the rear of the case. Not by much a coffee cup mat or thin book will do. That will make any air bubbles to sit at the highest point in the loop, in this case to radiator at the rear of the case. Rock the case side to side a few times to encourage any air to move to the top of the radiator. With the air there it won't be getting sucked into the pump which is what causes noise. Turn the PC on.

If that doesn't work take the side of the case and listen to where the noise is coming from. Roll up a sheet of paper into a cone and put the large end in the PC and the smaller to your ear. Move it over component. CPU, and each fan

[The Rt Hon. Sir_Sampie]

Interesting, it looks like with this specific AIO (MSI MAG CoreLiquid 240R V2), the pump is not in the usual place. Most commonly it is connected to the block/cold plate, but for the AIO in question it seems to be mounted in the radiator itself. This would mean the pump is actually at the highest point if indeed the radiator is top mounted.

It's possible that enough air is in the radiator where it is getting into the pump and causing the noise you hear. I would be tempted to remount the radiator, if possible to the front of the case and see if this resolves the issue.

I note that you mentioned that the noise is increased when you are playing games. It could be possible that the fans increased RPMs are causing some sort of vibration. If the AIO is not mounted properly, it could result in the radiator rattling against the case. Or it could just be that the pump is running faster as your CPU heats up. sometimes the pump will be set to speed up and slow down in conjunction with the radiator fans.

[Painkilleruk]

could also be a bent radiator fin, a loose screw or a cable clipping. You could try installing the fan upside down cables coming from bottom the air will stay trapped at top of the rad. In all honesty would just replace it.

[Kobs]

In all honesty would just replace it.

This, ...with a good one. I highly recommend the deepcool line

[Rod]

A good correctly installed AIO shouls not do that. Ive had my h100 installed since 2014 and never heard a single noise or had a single issue.

[The Grin]

Thank you all for your answers I really need to see how I will manage. Maybe change my powerplan from full power to balanced, see what it does. I noticied that in idle my ryzen 7 proc went from 55 up to 63° which high for an idle state but it was on max powerplan.
On balanced (recommended) I get normal temperatures between 35 and 45 ° idle.

Here is a glimpse of how it sounded in July 2022. The rattling noise is worse now but it's the same:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/URkbYeW_i-M

[MoonC A T]

I had the same cooler. Mine died. It is notorious for dying. It is 100% crap. Thankfully I got a refund...it died THAT soon.

I went back to air cooling and couldn't be happier.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/3183487594845889787/?tscn=1647025593#c3183487594846175567

[The Rt Hon. Sir_Sampie]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Jadam Ensen (^3^):

Thank you all for your answers I really need to see how I will manage. Maybe change my powerplan from full power to balanced, see what it does. I noticied that in idle my ryzen 7 proc went from 55 up to 63° which high for an idle state but it was on max powerplan.
On balanced (recommended) I get normal temperatures between 35 and 45 ° idle.

Here is a glimpse of how it sounded in July 2022. The rattling noise is worse now but it's the same:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/URkbYeW_i-M

I'm pretty sure the Ryzen 5000 chips don't require a powerplan.

Sounds like you may be using old chipset drivers so you might want to update them. For me, when I upgraded from a Ryzen 3000 to a 5000 chip, after updating the drivers the ability to adjust powerplan was removed.

That cooler sounds pretty busted to me. I would recommend replacing it with an Arctic Liquid Freezer ii or solid air cooler if you're done with water cooling.

[Kobs]

On your little vid both your in and out are facing downward so if there is an air bubble it will be stuck at the top of your block. Have you tried to install it so your tubes are pointing up?
Imho, it's the worst way to install a water block, when you install it, think of gravity and what air bubbles do .. they go up

[Mittens]

Use something like a cardboard tube to pinpoint via listening exactly where the rattling is coming from.. My 3070 Zotac card made a very similiar noise until I used an anti-sag bracket, turned out the noise came from the plastic casing vibrating.