Hunter_M♤cer 2022년 12월 31일 오전 8시 28분
Is this a Good Motherboard + Cpu combo?
I was windows shopping for a ddr4 Matx motherboard that I would plan to buy and use someday and I spotted this deal for 9k-10k pesos (160-180)

Which is a Asus Prime H510m-k And I3 10105f processor. So is this Combo good or bad? If it is not, then suggest me a good matx Motherbosrd + Processor combo for under 180 dollars. I'll also get my hands on some ddr4 ram with that

Note: Micro Atx, not mini Atx or Atx motherboards and ddr4

My specs also:
Inplay wind01 case
Ygt 750 watt Psu
H61h2-mv
Nvidia quadro 4000 (This Gpu will get swapped to a better one someday)
8gb DDR3
I5 2400


Anyways hope you're all having a good day/night :KomeijiKoishi:

Edit:
Okay everyone I just spotted another deal, I wonder if its a good deal?

Ryzen 5 5500
And
B450m Steel Legend

For 12k pesos (215 dollars), just the processor and Motherboard, not the ram and cpu cooler
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Illusion of Progress 2022년 12월 31일 오전 11시 14분 
Without knowing your local options, it's hard to say. That's about the lowest, if not the lowest, board and CPU from that generation, and it's now two or three generations old too.

That being said, you probably might not find much better for under a couple hundred USD for both a board and CPU. And as long as you think a quad core will hold up, it's not like it's absolutely slow in per core performance.

For further information, it's basically like giving your current CPU Hyper-threading, and making it like almost but less than twice as fast per core (very rough to be accurate with this as it will vary). I don't often suggest this because I'm often recommending AGAINST it because used pricing on Intel CPUs is often awful, but look at what a used Core i7 2600/3770 would cost yin your area. Because if it's below $100 USD by a lot, mathematically there's not much reason to swing for a platform upgrade with another quad core over doing that. Ideally, you'd do neither and if your budget can fit it, I think you might be better off trying to go for the Core i5 10400/10400F minimum instead. It'll move you up to a hex core and really I'd try and avoid quad cores for purchases in 2022/2023 in all but the most basic of use cases.

But if your budget can't accommodate that OR you don't need more cores AND you know you want something faster (per core, but not more cores), then what you found is a whole lot better than the Corei5 2400 you're using now.

Don't forget, the DDR3 RAM won't work on the board/motherboard you're asking about (you might already know this, but saying it anyway). You'll need DDR4 for that.
_I_ 2022년 12월 31일 오전 11시 42분 
10105 is huge step up from the 2nd gen i5
f variant has no igpu, get the non f version if you can, that would be better igpu than your old quadro

it will need ddr4 ram
also pick up a nvme ssd, those are so much faster than sata or hdd
Illusion of Progress 2022년 12월 31일 오후 1시 18분 
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10105 is huge step up from the 2nd gen i5
f variant has no igpu, get the non f version if you can, that would be better igpu than your old quadro

it will need ddr4 ram
also pick up a nvme ssd, those are so much faster than sata or hdd
I'm going to (partially) disagree on the last part. They certainly can be faster for specific workflows, but general use and even gaming isn't one of them, and someone looking at the absolutely bottom level board and CPU of a few generations ago is something I'm presuming doesn't have much of a budget.

But I was sort of presuming OP might have already had a SATA SSD or something, but now I see a drive wasn't mentioned. If they do have an SSD already, no point allocating a limited budget towards replacing it. But if all they have is an HDD and need an SSD anyway, then yeah may as well go NVMe since they don't carry a big premium anymore.
emoticorpse 2022년 12월 31일 오후 1시 22분 
this video says there is a significant upgrade in that upgrade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oh82ggkOjc

I know the isn't exactly the same but I think yours would perform the same or a teeny bit better.
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🦜Cloud Boy🦜 2022년 12월 31일 오후 2시 55분 
No point of spending $180 for a pre-owned quad core combo. Get Ryzen 5500, it has 6c/12t and priced under $100. Combine it with a cheap B450 motherboard. You will get a decent brand-new platform for little over $200.

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5500-ryzen-5-5000-series/p/N82E16819113737
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Hunter_M♤cer 2022년 12월 31일 오후 5시 16분 
🦜Cloud Boy🦜님이 먼저 게시:
No point of spending $180 for a pre-owned quad core combo. Get Ryzen 5500, it has 6c/12t and priced under $100. Combine it with a cheap B450 motherboard. You will get a decent brand-new platform for little over $200.

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5500-ryzen-5-5000-series/p/N82E16819113737
I guess I'll be going from Intel to Amd
_I_ 2022년 12월 31일 오후 5시 19분 
if near a microcenter, you can get the 10105 and board for around $150

the ryzen 5500 is a much better cpu tho for not much more
pasa 2022년 12월 31일 오후 5시 38분 
Asus prime is a good family, we use plenty of them with different sockets. m is the small version, if it has the desired amount of pcie/ram/sata/usb slots for you, it is fine.

The cpu is much better than the current. Whether it's optimal for you or not only you can tell, also it depends a lot on local price fluctuations. I'd suggest to check how prices for ryzen 3600 non-X prices are there and some related models, traditionally those have excellent bang/buck ratio. Also the I5 10400-ish line.
Hunter_M♤cer 2022년 12월 31일 오후 7시 51분 
Okay everyone I just spotted another deal, I wonder if its a good deal?

Ryzen 5 5500
And
B450m Steel Legend

For 12k pesos (215 dollars), just the processor and Motherboard, not the ram and cpu cooler
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pasa 2022년 12월 31일 오후 8시 34분 
That's a great 6-core 65w cpu, way better than your original. And probably comes with its cooler that works fine.

Can't comment on the mobo beyond generalities, while asrock is less popular than a handful of other names it doesn't mean it's any bad.

By looks it's great.When you buy ram consult the specs on what type/size is supported at what freq. And which slots/ports are shared.
76561198343548661 2022년 12월 31일 오후 9시 52분 
i guess there s no Microcenter .

In regards to the first combo -It is good and the CPU is at least 2x faster . But Quadro 4000 is so weak that there d be nearly no change in the 3D performance . I d get a faster GPU instead for quick 3D performance uplift

In regards to the second combo - it s even faster than the first .

edit
Btw , i have i3 10100F along with GTX 1650 and it s great . Yesterday i finished Guardians of The Galaxy . A beautiful but hard game .
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Hunter_M♤cer 2023년 1월 1일 오전 7시 23분 
Just found a 2nd deal online
Illusion of Progress 2023년 1월 1일 오전 7시 40분 
I keep forgetting the Ryzen 5 5500 because for some reason I keep incorrectly thinking it's a 6 core but just 6 thread CPU when it's not. What I'm thinking of was the Ryzen 5 3500 only available in certain markets. I looked into the Ryzen 5 5500 and tried to figure out if there was a reason I was always overlooking it and never having it in mind and here's what the refresher told me.

In specifications, it has half the cache and a couple hundred MHz less on boost compared to the 5600 (non-X). It's also not even a chiplet based Zen 3 but a repurposed monolithic APU die. It only supports PCI Express 3.0 rather than 4.0 like Zen 3 usually does, but that hardly matters, at least for gaming/GPUs (just listing it for completeness) unless maybe you plan on putting a Radeon 6400 or 6500 with it.

In performance, overall, the 5500 is closer to the 3600X or 5600G while the 5600 is closer to the 5600X. The latter two are a bit apart from the former two. Put in rough (emphasis!) terms to Intel CPUs, the Ryzen 5 5500 will be closer to, but maybe a bit above, a Core i5 10400 whereas the 5600 will be closer to, but maybe a bit below, the Core i5 12400.

I think if you go with AMD it's worth stepping up to the 5600 at minimum here. The 5500, 5600, and 5600X have somewhat similar price gaps (in the US) but performance differs in a non-matching way where either the 5500 underperforms for its price (slightly) or the 5600 overperforms for its price (slightly).

From here...

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-5600-and-ryzen-5-5500-review

Summary if you don't want to read the whole review (but it's worth it for a buying decision).

https://imgur.com/a/7sKvphu

Granted, I'm being rather heavy on what may be some "small" differences, but I think these things only matter more when you have a limited budget and need to "get the most of it". Sometimes spending up, even a little, isn't always in the cards though so the 5500 won't be bad. But if you can I think the 5600 is worth going for. In contrast, the 5600X isn't usually really adding more over the 5600 (non-X).
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76561198343548661 2023년 1월 1일 오전 9시 01분 
i like Ryzen 5500 . It s dirty cheap and does a good job . it s 17% faster than i3 12100F and 56% faster than i3 10105F , according to 3D Mark
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Illusion of Progress 2023년 1월 1일 오전 11시 20분 
Well it's in a different class from the Core i3s so that makes sense. It's more comparable to the Core i5s from the last couple of years.

It would be a fine upgrade if that's all OP wants to spend. It's a bit above a 3600X and is basically comparable to a 5600G. But both of those are quite behind a 5600/5600X.

Price-wise it's sort of 5500 < 5600 < 5600X almost equally split, but performance wise it's more like < 5500 <<< 5600 = 5600X, so I feel the 5600 is the ideal choice. But yeah I'm not saying the 5500 isn't a good option because of that.
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