Building of a new PC

[Teo]

Hey I need a little bit of a second hand opinion of this build I made and planning to buy parts soon. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/87PPW4

1. Quite sure 650W should be sufficient enough right?
   
2. How much of a difference does CL16 instead of 18 for RAM make?

Storage is not included because I'm just going to use it from my previous PC.

[UserNotFound]

Looking at the list of parts, looks like you'll be gaming at 1440P high refresh rate. Does RT matter? RT will tank performance, even on nVidia lower end (NOT low end per se). IF you' after high refresh rate, then RT shouldn't be a factor, so in that case, a faster card at rasterize gaming, yet cheaper, would be the XFX MERC 319 RX 6800 at 599USD -
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=merc+319+rx+6800&crid=CORET040X5ZO&sprefix=merc+319+rx+6800%2Caps%2C102&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

It outperforms the RTX 3060 Ti, with double the VRAM (8GB VRAM is perfectly fine for many games, other than a very few games that incorporate HD Texture Packs which would tank performance on 8GB card). There's a 200USD difference in price, I'd suggest a more powerful PUS with the saving (in case you decide to go with the MERC 319) like an 850W Gold rated PSU.

[Teo]

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Does RT matter?

Never had a RT card before so it's going to be my first one, still need to see for myself if it's something I will care about.

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a faster card at rasterize gaming, yet cheaper, would be the XFX MERC 319 RX 6800 at 599USD -

In my region it's almost 300 dollar difference between them

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like an 850W Gold rated PSU.

So I should be good with a 650W one if I go with 3060ti ?

[76561198343548661]

1. The PSU should suffice
2 All timings matter . You ve chosen 16-19-19-39

this monitor consumes 2x less power
Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz

[emoticorpse]

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Does RT matter?

Never had a RT card before so it's going to be my first one, still need to see for myself if it's something I will care about.

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a faster card at rasterize gaming, yet cheaper, would be the XFX MERC 319 RX 6800 at 599USD -

In my region it's almost 300 dollar difference between them

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like an 850W Gold rated PSU.

So I should be good with a 650W one if I go with 3060ti ?

Look up raytracing before you make a move at all buying anything. If you look it up later and try taking it seriously, then you'll need to upgrade your GPU and most likely your PSU along with it complicating things.

You could just do yourself a favor and get it right at this point in time.

[ugafan]

$820 for a 3060 ti is way overpriced.

[Teo]

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$820 for a 3060 ti is way overpriced.

It's around 480$ in my region

[76561198343548661]

Are you going to overclock the CPU . If not , you dont need such a bulky cooler .

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i changed the monitor with IPS one , with low power consumption as well

[Teo]

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i changed the monitor with IPS one , with low power consumption as well

After looking the monitor up it seems that only the variant VG27AQ1A is sold here, not quite sure what's the difference between them though

[76561198343548661]

1A is up to 35W but the first up to 27W
1A has a little less weight with stand but more weight without stand

[kiwikev]

The LG looks slightly better in spec's to me, LG: 1ms GtG + brightness ~350cd/m² vs ASUS: 1ms MPRT and brightness ~250cd/m² and both are IPS.

The choice is yours.

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gn800-b-gaming-monitor

https://www.asus.com/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg27aq1a/

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por Teo ☀:

Hey I need a little bit of a second hand opinion of this build I made and planning to buy parts soon. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/87PPW4

1. Quite sure 650W should be sufficient enough right?
   
2. How much of a difference does CL16 instead of 18 for RAM make?

Storage is not included because I'm just going to use it from my previous PC.
:cozyspaceengineersc:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6LR2Mb

This is better. The 6700-XT performs similarly, more often better than the 3060 Ti but it costs half as much as the one you picked.

Also, older power supplies are proving to be problematic with newer video cards as their designs are poor. Best to buy a newer and good quality power supply, the 2021 RMx 750 is one of the best value units that's exceptional in design and quality.

For your price point, it's not worth buying into raytracing, less than a 3080 is just meh for RT.

[Illusion of Progress]

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• How much of a difference does CL16 instead of 18 for RAM make?

[/olist]

There's a difference, but it's one you'll mostly see in benchmarks, less so blindly in practice.

That said, I bought the same exact RAM you have in that list two and a half years ago (except mine was 4x 16 GB) and this very consideration was one I made at the time too. I ended up choosing the CL16 set over the CL18 set. It was like $300 compared to $270 at the time, so a ~10% cost increase. Probably not a 10% performance increase though, but I felt it was worth spending an extra $30 since I was already spending a lot on RAM and potentially planning on staying with the platform for a long time.

Keep in mind these are SK Hynix with "non-flat" timings, meaning the advertised CL16 ONLY refers to the first timing as opposed to the first three. The full timings are 16-19-19-39, and on the looser timings set it was like 18-22-22-42 or something. So really I felt it was worth the added cost to not have borderline slow timings for 3,600 MHz (and I wanted 3,600 MHz to run the Ryzen IF clock at 1,800 MHz and be 1:1).

[76561198343548661]

Dont forget that increasing frequency , usually involves increasing the timings , in general . Only if the frequencly of the sticks is the same , the lower timing the faster it is .

[r.linder]

Primary timings actually make the least amount of actual impact on performance, it's all of the secondary and tertiary timings that make the most amount of impact.

Properly tuned CL16~18 can pretty easily beat poorly tuned CL13~15, because primary timings don't do squat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgb8N23tsfA&

[Guydodge]

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i changed the monitor with IPS one , with low power consumption as well

After looking the monitor up it seems that only the variant VG27AQ1A is sold here, not quite sure what's the difference between them though

that is the better monitor i own both the VG27AQ1A is smooth as butter 60-144hz and all
3 of mine have zero BLB which for ips is amazing these beat out 600-700 dollar monitors
has elmb which will work with freesync/gsync which will even get rid of the microstutter in farcry games.have 10bit color HDR 500+ nit brightness..run from LG its hot garbage
ive owned much more expensive monitors 6-800 dollars these beat them hands down.