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Tell that to 3070 and ti owners going for 2/4k.
In fact, a photo in the first link shows 4 different versions of the 3060, but the 8 GB model ends up being so much weaker while still costing $330 that the average consumer would think they're getting a good 3060, as opposed to a glorified 3050 Ti. It's the same with how the original 4080 12 GB was overpriced, and turned out to be MUCH weaker than its tier would suggest, putting it at best at only 4070 Ti performance. And they're planning to release the actual 4070 Ti at $899. Why even bother with the 30xx generation, if we're already on the 40xx series now?
That still won't make it a good choice, mind you. The RTX 3060 (12 GB) is a poor value at its original MSRP, let alone the MSRP of the Ti, so the 8 GB one will be a poor value at the original MSRP of $330 as well.
Because the RTX 40 series is exclusive to a mere two GPUs, one a laughably bad value and another priced extremely high, and both actually are as they are both WELL within the four figure range.
if you're asking why nVidia themselves still don't have a full RTX 40 series lineup, and isn't intending to replace the RTX 30 series fully with it, two reasons.
The first is the recent cryptocurrency market. Thank Ethereum/mining. nVidia made so much commitment to RTX 30 series production due to the infinite demand a while back that they need to sell those to prevent eating a loss. If they replace them with direct replacements (similar price, much better performance), it means nobody buys them. It's part of why the RTX 40 series is priced as it is.
The second is even in normal times, there would probably only be two or maybe three GPUs released right now anyway. They start at the top and it takes time to work their way down.
That still won't make it a good choice, mind you. The RTX 3060 (12 GB) is a poor value at its original MSRP, let alone the MSRP of the Ti, so the 8 GB one will be a poor value at the original MSRP of $330 as well.
Because the RTX 40 series is exclusive to a mere two GPUs, one a laughably bad value and another priced extremely high, and both actually are as they are both WELL within the four figure range.
if you're asking why nVidia themselves still don't have a full RTX 40 series lineup, and isn't intending to replace the RTX 30 series fully with it, two reasons.
The first is the recent cryptocurrency market. Thank Ethereum/mining. nVidia made so much commitment to RTX 30 series production due to the infinite demand a while back that they need to sell those to prevent eating a loss. If they replace them with direct replacements (similar price, much better performance), it means nobody buys them. It's part of why the RTX 40 series is priced as it is.
The second is even in normal times, there would probably only be two or maybe three GPUs released right now anyway. They start at the top and it takes time to work their way down. [/quote]
In regards to your 2nd part, that I have heard about. Still doesn't change the fact that they could have just released a smaller VRAM sized 3060 without all the other shenanigans, but we agree there. In regards to the 1st part, it's actually even worse. $330 may be MSRP but the actual market going rate right now for it is more around $389, which actually makes it MORE expensive than the better 3060 12 GB, which itself is technically overpriced.
I have a 3060 Ti thankfully, but if I was in the market right now for a 3060, and couldn't buy the Ti version, I probably wouldn't have known about these specific differences. And I imagine plenty of people don't unless it's shared enough.
Bad naming scheme.
Then again, the RTX 4080 16 GB should also be an RTX 4070 yet is being called an RTX 4080, and the former RTX 4080 12 GB should be an RTX 4060 Ti yet is being called the RTX 4070 (Ti?).
Modern nVidia is doing this a lot more. They've done it a lot in the past, but mostly at the low end (x40 tier and below) so nobody noticed/cared as much.
Yeah, I did state that very thing.
"...the base RTX 3060 never really went for its own MSRP that often to begin with. It's always been much closer to, almost at, the RTX 3060 Ti MSRP this entire time."
$389 is just shy of the MSRP of the RTX 3060 Ti ($399).
I know there's AIB additions but I remember way back in the past, the price that articles/reviews gave were always (either exactly the price you could expect to see when buying, or close enough (might be a $10 or $20 added expense on some models, but none of this "the cards are actually priced at what the next tier up is" that goes on now. No idea what changed there.
Hehe, I didn't even know there was a x40 tier, so that's news to me. That said, it reminds me of the 970 fiasco when people realized it was only using 3.5 GB of the 4 GB VRAM. There actually was a class action lawsuit over it (I had one myself at the time, and was sent a nice check from the lawsuit as apparently being eligible due to owning one myself). Guess they haven't stopped their shenanigans since then.
Hell, my ASUS TUF Gaming Geforce RTX 3060 Ti OC V2 can be had for $419 on Amazon right now. $459 on Newegg. Considering the scalper prices not only a year ago, that's pretty reasonable as far as the Ti version is concerned. But I wonder if Nvidia won't try to gimp the 60xx series next gen and try to sell the 4060 regular and Ti at $600 or $700 respectively, and yet have their performance no better than a 3070 last generation.
nVidia has just slowly been phasing out how frequently they release/refresh lower tier cards. Or the obvious answer is that they just name them a tier or two up from what they should be so they're disguised as higher tier cards. The eventual RTX 4060 will no doubt be what should be an x40 or x50 at best. The gap between the RTX 4080 and RTX 4090 being as large as it is set this up from the start.
I've been playing at 1440p and 2160p ever since the GTX 780 came out.
8GB is more then enough even at 5K, which I have also ran plenty of games at, cranked up.
Your GPU and such will naturally flush VRAM as needed. We do not have Games even looking towards 2023, that are calling for MORE THAN 8GB of VRAM.
Also a game has to be coded properly to even use the VRAM properly. It doesn't just keep using all for VRAM over-time, like can happen with apps that use System RAM.
But the reason GPUs like 3060 and 3070 come with 8GB VRAM is because those are not High End GPUs. So that is to be expected. Do what I did, save up and buy a 3080 Ti, if that's what you want and need. Don't complain about how things are made and the available options just because you feel entitled, which is a growing trend that needs to stop. You and many others feel like you aren't getting enough for your money. Go buy AMD and see how those are. They are junk let me tell you. Did I like paying 1399 for a 3080 Ti back around Spring/Summer time 2021; no... but I needed it. I'm happy with it and it is superb. I've used 3060s and 3070s; more junk. And don't fall for the 3060 12GB, it's a slap in the face. It's a 1440p card at best that will never be able to run something demanding enough that actually could use that much VRAM. Not Games anyways.
It was a bad card. Died after 8 months. Got a full refund and purchased a 3080ti from a friend.
It's all good now.
Can I ask what was the exact model of RTX 3070 ?
The crappiest brand and model...
Gigabyte Eagle
No OC, no nothing. The most crappy of the crappiest that was @MSRP last year.