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SilverPigtail 2022年12月5日 5時07分

Does the RTX 4080 needs the special cable adapter?

Hi everyone,

I've been considering to buy an RTX 4080, but I've read that the 4090 needs a special cable adapter. Does the 4080 needs this adapter too? That default adapter runs in a lot of problems since it can burns out the GPU and if the 4080 needs it too I think I'll pass.

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Crawl 2022年12月6日 5時35分

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If issue keep appearing more, and more and this only happening with 4090, and not previous generations going far back as 20 series as if it rare to happen, or at all then this suggests either quality of the cable are not good, or bad, or that there just oversight design of the cable that shouldn't had happen.

I mean it was looked into multiple times, it not the card side the issue, and user are possible factor for issue, but it doesn't seem like it happening with older gen cards when put same factor into play, as well those cards been around much longer, so it raises questions about the cable again.

IMHO I think Nvidia gimp out on the quality of the cable for 4090 card, that what I believe if it keep happening more, and more, even if say it only small number doesn't mean it won't happen later down the road.

You are drawing conclusions that have been proven to not be true, the cause of the melting cables is known. The issue has been investigated by Nvidia, GamersNexus, and many others. The adapter cable is perfectly fine. I haven't seen a single new reported case since Nvidia came out and said the issue was caused by not fully seating the plug.

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UserNotFound 2022年12月6日 5時39分

Some leaked benchmark figures are coming in, looks like the RTX 7900XTX would sit squarely between the RTX 4080 and RTX 4090 in performance.....rasterize performance that is. For RT, no figures yet, though it's rumored to be a gen behind, now similar to high end RTX 3000 series.

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skOsH♥ 2022年12月6日 5時41分

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First I want to see benchmarks. Probably it would be a very good GPU, but having proofs of it would be nice. And thank you for the advise. :er_heart:

So far they are better BUT and I can't stress this enough they aren't much of an upgrade because of the price. getting

25% improvement for 25% higher price/50% improvement for 50% higher price

is just 1 to 1. Before when you upgraded you got 25% improvement for around the same price thus more for your money making it worthwhile.

Bottom line is unless you absolutely need the performance and can afford it you money is better spent elsewhere

Literally one of the only games the rtx 4080/4090 does better than the 7900xt or 7900xtx in is cyberpunk

If you want to play cyberpunk forever and have a 1.3x higher electrical bill, then buy the 4000 series

If you want minimal difference, less cost, and a better electrical bill, go AMD

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Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2022年12月6日 6時20分

Crawl の投稿を引用：
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 の投稿を引用：
If issue keep appearing more, and more and this only happening with 4090, and not previous generations going far back as 20 series as if it rare to happen, or at all then this suggests either quality of the cable are not good, or bad, or that there just oversight design of the cable that shouldn't had happen.

I mean it was looked into multiple times, it not the card side the issue, and user are possible factor for issue, but it doesn't seem like it happening with older gen cards when put same factor into play, as well those cards been around much longer, so it raises questions about the cable again.

IMHO I think Nvidia gimp out on the quality of the cable for 4090 card, that what I believe if it keep happening more, and more, even if say it only small number doesn't mean it won't happen later down the road.

You are drawing conclusions that have been proven to not be true, the cause of the melting cables is known. The issue has been investigated by Nvidia, GamersNexus, and many others. The adapter cable is perfectly fine. I haven't seen a single new reported case since Nvidia came out and said the issue was caused by not fully seating the plug.

It was talked about even by gamernexus it may be user error, but issue is also quality for inside the cable where the pin connector is that when thin layer scrape away can also cause issue, so it points to either possible user end, or just got bad cable, these cables are not exactly of quality I'm seeing unless you can convince me otherwise.

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Crawl 2022年12月6日 7時03分

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You are drawing conclusions that have been proven to not be true, the cause of the melting cables is known. The issue has been investigated by Nvidia, GamersNexus, and many others. The adapter cable is perfectly fine. I haven't seen a single new reported case since Nvidia came out and said the issue was caused by not fully seating the plug.
It was talked about even by gamernexus it may be user error, but issue is also quality for inside the cable where the pin connector is that when thin layer scrape away can also cause issue, so it points to either possible user end, or just got bad cable, these cables are not exactly of quality I'm seeing unless you can prove to me otherwise.

Yes they mentioned a lot of things when they were investigating the issue and they were looking for any possible causes. They had dozens of cables from various manufacturers some with metal burrs on the pins, plating scraped off, metal fragments in the plastic, not a single one of those cables melted. The only time a cable melted was when it wasn't plugged in properly.

I actually own a Strix 4090 and the adapter that came with it is as well made as any other cable in my pc. I have about $7,000 invested in my pc there is no way I would risk it over a cable if I was even remotely concerned that it would fail.

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SilverPigtail 2022年12月6日 7時25分

Crawl の投稿を引用：
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 の投稿を引用：
It was talked about even by gamernexus it may be user error, but issue is also quality for inside the cable where the pin connector is that when thin layer scrape away can also cause issue, so it points to either possible user end, or just got bad cable, these cables are not exactly of quality I'm seeing unless you can prove to me otherwise.

Yes they mentioned a lot of things when they were investigating the issue and they were looking for any possible causes. They had dozens of cables from various manufacturers some with metal burrs on the pins, plating scraped off, metal fragments in the plastic, not a single one of those cables melted. The only time a cable melted was when it wasn't plugged in properly.

I actually own a Strix 4090 and the adapter that came with it is as well made as any other cable in my pc. I have about $7,000 invested in my pc there is no way I would risk it over a cable if I was even remotely concerned that it would fail.

Yeah, I assume that not every cable will cause problems. Would you say that the problem is less typical that it seems to be?

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Crawl 2022年12月6日 9時05分

SilverPigtail の投稿を引用：
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Yes they mentioned a lot of things when they were investigating the issue and they were looking for any possible causes. They had dozens of cables from various manufacturers some with metal burrs on the pins, plating scraped off, metal fragments in the plastic, not a single one of those cables melted. The only time a cable melted was when it wasn't plugged in properly.

I actually own a Strix 4090 and the adapter that came with it is as well made as any other cable in my pc. I have about $7,000 invested in my pc there is no way I would risk it over a cable if I was even remotely concerned that it would fail.

Yeah, I assume that not every cable will cause problems. Would you say that the problem is less typical that it seems to be?

The official numbers that were reported by Nvidia at the time were roughly 50 melted cables world wide out of well over 100,000 cards sold and there haven't been any new cases since that I am aware of. In basically all of those cases they were able to look at the plugs and see that they were not inserted properly. When inserting the plug the contact of the plastic of the plug and gpu creates small scratches so they can gauge how far the plug was inserted. The whole situation was blown way out of proportion by a few tech channels and click bait titles.

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SilverPigtail 2022年12月6日 9時14分

Crawl の投稿を引用：
SilverPigtail の投稿を引用：

Yeah, I assume that not every cable will cause problems. Would you say that the problem is less typical that it seems to be?

The official numbers that were reported by Nvidia at the time were roughly 50 melted cables world wide out of well over 100,000 cards sold and there haven't been any new cases since that I am aware of. In basically all of those cases they were able to look at the plugs and see that they were not inserted properly. When inserting the plug the contact of the plastic of the plug and gpu creates small scratches so they can gauge how far the plug was inserted. The whole situation was blown way out of proportion by a few tech channels and click bait titles.

That's good to know. Considering that this is a thing related with the insertion of the new adapter, then maybe it's not very intuitive to do? The normal GPU cables have a little flange to indicate where exactly you have to push. I've noticed that the new adapter cables didn't have this.

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Crawl 2022年12月6日 10時14分

SilverPigtail の投稿を引用：
Crawl の投稿を引用：

The official numbers that were reported by Nvidia at the time were roughly 50 melted cables world wide out of well over 100,000 cards sold and there haven't been any new cases since that I am aware of. In basically all of those cases they were able to look at the plugs and see that they were not inserted properly. When inserting the plug the contact of the plastic of the plug and gpu creates small scratches so they can gauge how far the plug was inserted. The whole situation was blown way out of proportion by a few tech channels and click bait titles.

That's good to know. Considering that this is a thing related with the insertion of the new adapter, then maybe it's not very intuitive to do? The normal GPU cables have a little flange to indicate where exactly you have to push. I've noticed that the new adapter cables didn't have this.

It has a retention clip like other cables, it may not be visible depending on the gpu brand. Some put it on top and some on the bottom. It doesn't have as audible a "click" as some other plugs but if you fully seat the plug and make sure the retention clip is engaged you'll be fine.

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Bad 💀 Motha 2022年12月6日 14時30分

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Heck they already have the 7800 and 7700 cards in-hand to test too.
Wait, what!? Spill the information please!

Simple Google search "Amd 7800 and 7700"
then click Videos

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N0REGARD4LIFE 2022年12月6日 21時31分

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I've had a 4090 since launch. I used the adapter for about a week until my ATX 3.0 power supply was delivered. No issues, but I made sure my cable was fully seated into the gpu. That being said, there's no way I'd get a 4080. Either get a 4090 or go with one of AMD's new GPUs. The 4080 just doesn't offer the performance for the price it costs. Some say that about the 4090 but it's a beast and performs ridiculously well. Anyway, avoid the 4080 unless Nvidia decides the wanna compete with AMD.
Funny now that 4080 may be getting upwards of $200 drop soon.
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-price-cut-mid-of-december-compeition-against-amd-7900-xtx/

I saw that. Maybe it'll be worth it but AIB cards still won't be worth the money. Maybe the FE cards but I wouldn't pay 1300 for an aftermarket 4080.

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SilverPigtail 2022年12月7日 19時48分

Crawl の投稿を引用：
SilverPigtail の投稿を引用：

That's good to know. Considering that this is a thing related with the insertion of the new adapter, then maybe it's not very intuitive to do? The normal GPU cables have a little flange to indicate where exactly you have to push. I've noticed that the new adapter cables didn't have this.

It has a retention clip like other cables, it may not be visible depending on the gpu brand. Some put it on top and some on the bottom. It doesn't have as audible a "click" as some other plugs but if you fully seat the plug and make sure the retention clip is engaged you'll be fine.

Does the curvature of the cable affect on something? (When you plug it in and it is not really pronounced).

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