ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 for 13700K?

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B08HLPFXWM

Anybody use this for 12th or 13th gen cpus?


Whats your opinion? My 360mm aio is dying and I am looking at this for my replacement.

Sorry cant use the 420, thought I could, its a tad too large for the P500a DRGB.

[hawkeye]

There is a mobo/chipset review on gamers nexus youtube that, towards the end, says that liquid cooling isn't needed for 12th? gen. As a 13700k is the actress formerly known as the 12900k that advice might apply for the 13700k. Liquid is just a bling thing. I could be wrong but it should be easy to find the vid.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

hawkeye の投稿を引用：

There is a mobo/chipset review on gamers nexus youtube that, towards the end, says that liquid cooling isn't needed for 12th? gen. As a 13700k is the actress formerly known as the 12900k that advice might apply for the 13700k. Liquid is just a bling thing. I could be wrong but it should be easy to find the vid.

I am looking to go with aio, I tried air, and I couldnt keep it under 80c at all in any game, because I run it at 5.3Ghz all cores.


I was just looking for fellow gamers personal experience with it. GN dont game like we do. They dont power their pc up and down, fire up a new pc game 25 x a day sometimes.


So in my experience, asking a fellow gamer how something runs for them, is better than a youtube tech review. They can give you specs, tech talk, and reviews as a pro reviewer, but how often do they use the stuff they review on a 24-7 basis? Not often. Half the stuff them and Jayz2cents review are never touched again, so their thermals are based off a weekend or a week of testing.


Thats not the review I want. I want to hear from the gamer who just stayed up for 2 days gaming, left his pc on afk in BDO for 2 days, then decided to open 119 tabs of chrome while opening 2 pc games, just because he can, and see how they say the temps hold.


But I think I am going to just buy it, price is right, non rgb version I am gonna snag

[Cathulhu]

Not sure why people believe that aircooling is weaker than watercooling. In the end, water just transports the heat to an aircooler.

The one thing that watercooling has as an advantage, they can take heatspikes better as long as the cooling fluid isn't saturated yet.

Air cooling is just as good as watercooling.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Cathulhu の投稿を引用：

Not sure why people believe that aircooling is weaker than watercooling. In the end, water just transports the heat to an aircooler.

The one thing that watercooling has as an advantage, they can take heatspikes better as long as the cooling fluid isn't saturated yet.

Air cooling is just as good as watercooling.

Air cooling is 100% fine-for stock 3.4ghz. It WILL NOT cool it at 6Ghz. New bios update supports 1 click 6Ghz. And I run my cpu at 5.3/4.2Ghz, CinBench is hitting 100c on a 4 year old 360 aio. I watched videos of ppl gaming with my build on air, and they have 85c in games, and come summer time, those temps will only go up.


I replaced the D15 on my 9700k for the aio that is now finally dying and my temps dropped by 30c

I went from 75c in games(not bad) to 45 to 55c in games(much more to my liking)


So I never said you cant, I just dont want to hotter temps and loud noise

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Cathulhu の投稿を引用：

Not sure why people believe that aircooling is weaker than watercooling. In the end, water just transports the heat to an aircooler.

The one thing that watercooling has as an advantage, they can take heatspikes better as long as the cooling fluid isn't saturated yet.

Air cooling is just as good as watercooling.

Oh and also my 9700K is currently sitting on air because I took the aio off it to use on this pc atm, so its using my old DS15. Idle it sits at whatever ambient temps are minus a few increase a few. But when its hot , the cpu will reflect the ambient temp more than an AIO will, and come summer, gaming on air simply SUCKS been there, dont want to go there again.


But for some people, it works, if I was tight on cash, air would be my choice too,

[ZAP]

I have one. It's decent if you can get it under $100 like the bstock ones on the eBay store ($75, all they did was change a gasket). Got this instead of a new D5 pump.

For $150-200 you could start to look at custom parts where a full copper 280 will beat this with a quality pump and block.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

ZAP の投稿を引用：

I have one. It's decent if you can get it under $100 like the bstock ones on the eBay store ($75, all they did was change a gasket). Got this instead of a new D5 pump.

For $150-200 you could start to look at custom parts where a full copper 280 will beat this with a quality pump and block.

Thanks, but not going to do custom, I dont have the patience to make that look all nice and proper. happy with finding a AIO. Sadly the 420 aiop only fits the P500A I have the P500a-DRGB, so just gonna pay the premium for Corsair H150i Elite Capella, I know they work and last, CM didnt last me and air just cant cool to my liking and the Artic 360 is out of stock

[ZAP]

This is the only AIO I've considered in a decade. For $75 on the eBay store with full warranty it's good but spending $150+ on an AIO is kinda dumb.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

ZAP の投稿を引用：

This is the only AIO I've considered in a decade. For $75 on the eBay store with full warranty it's good but spending $150+ on an AIO is kinda dumb.

I dont shop on ebay, got burned in the past, never used them for over 5 or 6 years now,

And it might be dumb to you, but key features I look for

Support that is in English
A Track record of product support
Generally good reviews.


Artic is the best, but they dont have the 360 in stock and i cant fit the 420. Other models either dont have the lga 1700 bracket or are some no name brand with horrible reviews.


I have had family and friends who thought the same, they went with Emerson, died in under 2 years. Ek, died in 6 month(they got a bad one tbh) my own coolermaster only last 3 1/2 years.


My h100i is 7 years old and STILL works. Corsair has proven it lasts in my experience. yes, their price is NASTY and I dont like it, but for peace of mind, at my age, $50 extra is well worth not having to return it via rma in 6 month to a year

[Julien, cut it out.]

Games are not that heavily multithreaded.

With an all-core clock of 5.3 GHz you're losing 1T and 2T performance compared to stock, which can boost up to 5.4 GHz under VTB.
Apparently the CPU already boosts up the P-Cores to 5.3 GHz in a nT scenario.

If you're not undervolting vs. stock at that frequency, your power consumption is higher.

I'd also say that an all-core clock is kind of 'legacy' OC. All CPU manufacturers offer better tools nowadays. Enable XTU in UEFI and use that application for OC.

Define your desired PL1, PL2, Tau and ICCmax.
I suggest to undervolt via the F/V curve and then try to max. the turbo ratio of the P-cores; test for stability and evaluate the performance gain to power consumption increase.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Julien, cut it out. の投稿を引用：

Games are not that heavily multithreaded.

With an all-core clock of 5.3 GHz you're losing 1T and 2T performance compared to stock, which can boost up to 5.4 GHz under VTB.
Apparently the CPU already boosts up the P-Cores to 5.3 GHz in a nT scenario.

If you're not undervolting vs. stock at that frequency, your power consumption is higher.

I'd also say that an all-core clock is kind of 'legacy' OC. All CPU manufacturers offer better tools nowadays. Enable XTU in UEFI and use that application for OC.

Define your desired PL1, PL2, Tau and ICCmax.
I suggest to undervolt via the F/V curve and then try to max. the turbo ratio of the P-cores; test for stability and evaluate the performance gain to power consumption increase.

I already undervolted to -0.100 and set power limit to 253watt and when the aio was working it wasnt going over 65c in games. Before I customized it, the 13700k is disgustingly greedy.

But my pump on my aio dying. So I NEED to buy new aio. I am checking everywhere but cant find any artic 360 in stock. I want the 420 but it wont clear the top of my pc due to the controller in the top and that cant be modded out. So I would need a different case. Cheaper to just get an overpriced aio I know works

[ZAP]

ToothlessRaider の投稿を引用：

ZAP の投稿を引用：

This is the only AIO I've considered in a decade. For $75 on the eBay store with full warranty it's good but spending $150+ on an AIO is kinda dumb.

I dont shop on ebay, got burned in the past, never used them for over 5 or 6 years now,

And it might be dumb to you, but key features I look for

Support that is in English
A Track record of product support
Generally good reviews.


Artic is the best, but they dont have the 360 in stock and i cant fit the 420. Other models either dont have the lga 1700 bracket or are some no name brand with horrible reviews.


I have had family and friends who thought the same, they went with Emerson, died in under 2 years. Ek, died in 6 month(they got a bad one tbh) my own coolermaster only last 3 1/2 years.


My h100i is 7 years old and STILL works. Corsair has proven it lasts in my experience. yes, their price is NASTY and I dont like it, but for peace of mind, at my age, $50 extra is well worth not having to return it via rma in 6 month to a year

Why are you asking about the 420 lol?

Like I said, a copper 280mm beats this so even though it's a good one, it's still just an AIO (weak as hell).

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

ZAP の投稿を引用：

ToothlessRaider の投稿を引用：

I dont shop on ebay, got burned in the past, never used them for over 5 or 6 years now,

And it might be dumb to you, but key features I look for

Support that is in English
A Track record of product support
Generally good reviews.


Artic is the best, but they dont have the 360 in stock and i cant fit the 420. Other models either dont have the lga 1700 bracket or are some no name brand with horrible reviews.


I have had family and friends who thought the same, they went with Emerson, died in under 2 years. Ek, died in 6 month(they got a bad one tbh) my own coolermaster only last 3 1/2 years.


My h100i is 7 years old and STILL works. Corsair has proven it lasts in my experience. yes, their price is NASTY and I dont like it, but for peace of mind, at my age, $50 extra is well worth not having to return it via rma in 6 month to a year

Why are you asking about the 420 lol?

Like I said, a copper 280mm beats this so even though it's a good one, it's still just an AIO (weak as hell).

That was before I found out it would fit "lol"? I been researching and saw that saw my case does claim to fit 420mm but then seeing ppl say it wont clear.


You also keep saying copper 280mm whats the name of your aio Or are you saying any 280 copper aio?

[ZAP]

ToothlessRaider の投稿を引用：

ZAP の投稿を引用：

Why are you asking about the 420 lol?

Like I said, a copper 280mm beats this so even though it's a good one, it's still just an AIO (weak as hell).

That was before I found out it would fit "lol"? I been researching and saw that saw my case does claim to fit 420mm but then seeing ppl say it wont clear.


You also keep saying copper 280mm whats the name of your aio Or are you saying any 280 copper aio?

I think it's an old Hardware Labs Black Ice Stealth with textured finish so a thin 280 at that. You'd want at least a DDC pump and decent block too, no cheaping out.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

ZAP の投稿を引用：

ToothlessRaider の投稿を引用：

That was before I found out it would fit "lol"? I been researching and saw that saw my case does claim to fit 420mm but then seeing ppl say it wont clear.


You also keep saying copper 280mm whats the name of your aio Or are you saying any 280 copper aio?

I think it's an old Hardware Labs Black Ice Stealth with textured finish so a thin 280 at that. You'd want at least a DDC pump and decent block too, no cheaping out.

Are you talking about a custom water loop? I have no desire to do that.