Athlon II X4 640 -> Pentium G4400 ? Or wait till afford i3.

[WeeHawky 711 Pepperoni Pizza]

So, I was looking at Skylake and was wondering if I could get by with a Pentium as an upgrade from the Athlon II X4 640 with a motherboard for around $120 ?

Or should I just wait till I can drop the $120 on the CPU only (IE: i3's ) . I'm gonig to assume the i3 probably would be a better option for gaming ?

[Andrius227]

weehawky eredeti hozzászólása:

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What's your current motherboard though?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131660&cm_re=ASUS_AM3_DDR3-_-13-131-660-_-Product

Why would the Skylake CPU prevent it my current RAM from working when there is 1.5 V RAM listed under the motherboard?

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/B150M-A_D3/B150M-A_D3_Memory_QVL.pdf?_ga=1.72617883.904576755.1459568871

Skylake cpu's don't support 1.5v ram.

[WeeHawky 711 Pepperoni Pizza]

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131660&cm_re=ASUS_AM3_DDR3-_-13-131-660-_-Product

Why would the Skylake CPU prevent it my current RAM from working when there is 1.5 V RAM listed under the motherboard?

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/B150M-A_D3/B150M-A_D3_Memory_QVL.pdf?_ga=1.72617883.904576755.1459568871

Skylake cpu's don't support 1.5v ram.

To sum this up, I've been told the memory controller is on the CPU itself not the motherboard.

Anyway, what RAM do they support in DDR3 ? Just the 1.3 ?

[Andrius227]

weehawky eredeti hozzászólása:

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Skylake cpu's don't support 1.5v ram.

To sum this up, I've been told the memory controller is on the CPU itself not the motherboard.

Anyway, what RAM do they support in DDR3 ? Just the 1.3 ?

DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V

http://ark.intel.com/products/90729/Intel-Core-i3-6100-Processor-3M-Cache-3_70-GHz
You can google any intel cpu and it will show everything about it.

You can just go with g4400 for now, and later upgrade it to any other skylake cpu, as someone suggested already.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sXpCxr
Would still be better than your current setup. And this one supports any skylake cpu (except k overclockable versions).

[WeeHawky 711 Pepperoni Pizza]

Andrius227 eredeti hozzászólása:

weehawky eredeti hozzászólása:

To sum this up, I've been told the memory controller is on the CPU itself not the motherboard.

Anyway, what RAM do they support in DDR3 ? Just the 1.3 ?

DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V

http://ark.intel.com/products/90729/Intel-Core-i3-6100-Processor-3M-Cache-3_70-GHz
You can google any intel cpu and it will show everything about it.

You can just go with g4400 for now, and later upgrade it to any other skylake cpu, as someone suggested already.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sXpCxr
Would still be better than your current setup. And this one supports any skylake cpu (except k overclockable versions).

Got an ASUS idea in mind on the motherboard ?

[Andrius227]

weehawky eredeti hozzászólása:

Andrius227 eredeti hozzászólása:

DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V

http://ark.intel.com/products/90729/Intel-Core-i3-6100-Processor-3M-Cache-3_70-GHz
You can google any intel cpu and it will show everything about it.

You can just go with g4400 for now, and later upgrade it to any other skylake cpu, as someone suggested already.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sXpCxr
Would still be better than your current setup. And this one supports any skylake cpu (except k overclockable versions).

Got an ASUS idea in mind on the motherboard ?

I just picked the cheapest one. Asus seems to be more expensive. You can edit that partlist and see for yourself. It's the best site for building pc's, shows only compatible parts.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3Z8JFT

[Rove]

It's not worth it to get a i3 (my opinion) you ideally want a i5 at minimum if it's Intel.

[Andrius227]

Rove eredeti hozzászólása:

It's not worth it to get a i3 (my opinion) you ideally want a i5 at minimum if it's Intel.

Well yeah, i5's are the best. But cost a lot.

Something like this would be ideal in my opinion, but more expensive:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qq4vbv

Or this actually, skylake seems to cost about the same now:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xxVYxr

[WeeHawky 711 Pepperoni Pizza]

Andrius227 eredeti hozzászólása:

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It's not worth it to get a i3 (my opinion) you ideally want a i5 at minimum if it's Intel.

Well yeah, i5's are the best. But cost a lot.

Something like this would be ideal in my opinion, but more expensive:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qq4vbv

Or this actually, skylake seems to cost about the same now:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xxVYxr

Yeah that aint happening. I'm not really wanting to spend $200 even. About $150 wouldn't hurt much.. Till the Summer months when the light bill is another $150 itself.

[Rove]

What about a 970 chipset AM3+ motherboard and a FX 8300 3.3 GHz 8 core CPU though?

You could re-use your current RAM with that. I llinked a MB+CPU earlier in the thread.

[SundownKid]

Rove eredeti hozzászólása:

It's not worth it to get a i3 (my opinion) you ideally want a i5 at minimum if it's Intel.

Yes, it is, i3-6100 is a very good budget gaming CPU if you can't afford an i5.

It's just the pure dual cores you want to avoid. But i3 is dual core with 2 virtual cores.

[WeeHawky 711 Pepperoni Pizza]

What about the G4400 ? Worse than Athlon ?

[Andrius227]

weehawky eredeti hozzászólása:

What about the G4400 ? Worse than Athlon ?

Better
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/130/AMD_Athlon_II_X4_640_vs_Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core_G4400.html

[WeeHawky 711 Pepperoni Pizza]

Andrius227 eredeti hozzászólása:

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What about the G4400 ? Worse than Athlon ?

Better
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/130/AMD_Athlon_II_X4_640_vs_Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core_G4400.html

I guess it's worth a shot then to go intel. I'm sure I'm going to have beg MS to give me my Windows 7 key back since it's OEM .

[Andrius227]

weehawky eredeti hozzászólása:

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Better
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/130/AMD_Athlon_II_X4_640_vs_Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core_G4400.html

I guess it's worth a shot then to go intel. I'm sure I'm going to have beg MS to give me my Windows 7 key back since it's OEM .

Best thing about intel is that you could upgrade to the very top if you really wanted and had the money. A board that supports g4400 would also support an i7-6700.

[Rove]

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What about the G4400 ? Worse than Athlon ?

Well here is a compare of the Pentium G3258 versus a Athlon II x4 860K according to AMD:
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/processors/desktop/athlon-cpu

I'd personally take the Athlon II x4 860K over any Pentium G including the 4400. It's about having 4 dedicated cores and more cache (4MB vs 3 or 3.5MB). However I'd also strongly suggest paying or saving up the extra $40~ to get a AMD FX 8300.

I posted sets for botht he Athlon 860K and the FX 8300 of CPU and motherboard earlier. If I remember right (they are on the first page) it was $125~ for the Athlon 860K and motherboard or $162~ for the FX 8300 and 970 chipset AM3+ motherboard. FX 8300 is worth it.