Lil Cigar 2016년 3월 31일 오후 9시 59분
Good Cheap Gaming PC?
My coumpeter cant handle them well D=
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sixxminmaniac 2016년 3월 31일 오후 10시 19분 
define cheap
_I_ 2016년 3월 31일 오후 10시 27분 
whats your budget (currency/location)
do you need an os?
or any accessories? (monitor, keyboard, mouse, controller, wifi nic, speakers)
do you have any components you can reuse? (ram, drives, case, psu ect..)

if in the us, are you near a microcenter?
http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/
Rove 2016년 4월 1일 오전 6시 59분 
Can you spend like $500 on a PC tower only, not including windows, montior or anything?

You can do it for less but that's where you start to get a pretty nice gaming PC at.

What's your budget that you are comfortable spending. Building your own is the way to go. I'm happy to suggest builds, actually putting them together is pretty easy.
Lil Cigar 2016년 4월 1일 오전 8시 06분 
Cheap like 200-300$ I live in the US and i saw some a best buy but idk.
SundownKid 2016년 4월 1일 오전 8시 11분 
.exe님이 먼저 게시:
Cheap like 200-300$ I live in the US and i saw some a best buy but idk.

No such thing as a good **gaming** PC for $300. The threshold for "good" is about $600. For regular PC's sure, but those can't handle gaming.

You can get a workable gaming PC for $350-400 if you buy used on Ebay, but it will have older parts. Or, a refurbished Alienware alpha if they pop up in the Dell Outlet.
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Lil Cigar 2016년 4월 1일 오전 8시 35분 
Well what if I build with decentg parts??
upcoast 2016년 4월 1일 오전 8시 56분 
.exe님이 먼저 게시:
Well what if I build with decentg parts??

Do you atleast have some spare parts, os to reuse or even a case to put the half decent parts in.

Basically you'll need to build around an intel i3 6100 or FX8300.
Rove 2016년 4월 1일 오전 9시 23분 
.exe님이 먼저 게시:
Cheap like 200-300$ I live in the US and i saw some a best buy but idk.

I can do that BUT it will come without Windows OS (or monitor, keyboard, mouse or anything else) and you will either have to re-use a copy you already have OR get a free type of Linux OS like Steam OS or Linux Mint. I recommend Linux Mint for the software and package managers. You can still run Windows games and Steam for Windows if you manage to get a free program called Wine running properly on it. I've been able to run both Steam for Windows and Steam for Linux on Linux Mint 64bit.

NOTE: you can usually use most TVs as monitors as long as the graphics connections from the motherboard to the TV are compatible or you can find a adapter. You'll also need to get sound from the the motherboard to the TV unless you are using HDMI and it works like that.

Also the graphics will have to be APU integrated graphics which means it won't be as strong as a PlayStation 4 or Xbox One at least until you upgrade to a better graphics card with 1300 or more GFLOPS of processing power later on down the road.

Here's 2 options ranging from high to low in your budget:

First with the nicer A10 APU you get it unlocked for overclocking (K-series) with better integrated graphics, a better motherboard, better case and a better PSU to make upgrading graphics easy.

ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Raidmax Horus ATX Mid Tower Case
Raidmax Cobra 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
AMD A10-7860k 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KdkTvK
Base Total: $324.84
Promo Discounts: -$5.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$45.00
Shipping: $5.39
Total: $280.23

Second with the cheaper A8 APU that is locked to prevent overclocking with less powerful integrated graphics, a worse motherboard, smaller case and a worse PSU (bundled with the case) that will need to be upgraded to upgrade the graphics card to anything good.

AMD A8-7600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor
Asus A68HM-E Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Apex TX-381 MicroATX Mid Tower Case w/300W Power Supply
A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xQWHYJ
Base Total: $229.75
Mail-in Rebates: -$10.00
Total: $219.75

For comparison the integrated graphics in these APUs have 550~ GFLOPS (A8-7600) and 700~ GFLOPS (A10-7860K) and are comparable to a R7 240 (A8) or R7 250 (A10) dedicated graphics card. For a later graphics upgrade I suggest a minimum of a R7 370 (1900~ GFLOPS) and a maximum of a R9 380X unless you are buying with future upgrades in mind. Either of these graphics cards should use a 500W PSU with correct PCIe connectors.

Now as I said the sweetspot for value gaming is about $500 to $800 and it might be worth it to save up a bit more just so you get a little bit better hardware. If that's not going to happen soon enough though then at least it will be nice to have a PC. Some games may not play well on these but lots of them will including many popular online games like MMOs and MoBAs.

At least with a graphics upgrade to a R7 370 or better these builds would be roughly as or more powerful than a XB1 or PS4 in terms of technical stats.
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SundownKid 2016년 4월 1일 오전 10시 10분 
.exe님이 먼저 게시:
Well what if I build with decentg parts??

Intel i3-6100 and GTX 950 combo is the least you can do that will get decent performance.

But it still won't be $300. More like 400-something.
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_I_ 2016년 4월 1일 오전 10시 40분 
apus not good, and have no upgrade path wroth it

get a pentium g4400 and gtx 750 or r7 370 minimum for a new gaming pc
then you can upgrade the cpu to an i5/i7 and gpu on the same mobo

the lowest i would go on a new build, will run circles around the amd apu for games
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kDpb4D

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($99.60 @ Newegg)
Case: *Raidmax Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $392.42
Rove 2016년 4월 1일 오전 10시 41분 
Please note:
The APUs in my above post ABSOLUTELY NEED the fast RAM, DDR3-2133 or better the DDR3-2400 I included so don't try and save $5 on the RAM or something by getting slower.
Rove 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2016년 4월 1일 오전 10시 41분
_I_ 2016년 4월 1일 오전 10시 43분 
Rove님이 먼저 게시:
Please note:
The APUs in my above post ABSOLUTELY NEED the fast RAM, DDR3-2133 or better the DDR3-2400 I included so don't try and save $5 on the RAM or something by getting slower.

the apu needs fast ram for better gpu performance, and the a10 apu has a better gpu on it
but those are far behind a gtx750 and r7 370 when not held back by slow cpu
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upcoast 2016년 4월 1일 오전 10시 57분 
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/72286-amd-athlon-x4-880k-review-9.html

x4 880k isn't too bad (reviewed with a gtx980) but I'd still lean towards an i3 6100 paired with a gtx960/r9 380.

To get anything worth while .exe needs to save up some $$$ because the least of a gpu to get these days is the gtx960/380 and there goes almost half the $400.

Ps, as far as squeezing potential out of a cpu, the i3 6100 could cost more too if you use it to its' fullest potential ie z170 board and 2666mhz ram so it's all relative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ejBlynOV8


Pss, I wouldn't touch those intel "G" cpus with a ten foot pole.
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Lil Cigar 2016년 4월 1일 오후 4시 27분 
i found a video on youtube by TheTechLemon on a 200$ gaming PC build comments say it could run games like fallout 4 ok watch it and give my ur opinion
shs 2016년 4월 1일 오후 5시 36분 
.exe, you need to link your video.

Otherwise what Sundownkid said, although I think you might be able to trim about eighty bucks off that. With luck.

What's the number one game you're looking to play that you currently can't? Add desired resolution and FPS.
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