WD Black vs Blue vs Hybrid for mass storage

[dmdport]

I currently have a OCZ 240 gb SSD as my boot and a 120 gb old hdd for some games but NEED an upgrade so i can store more than 8 games at a time. I want to know what the difference between the WD black and blue is and if a Hybrid will help my load times at all. Also, where does a Barracuda perform in this spectrum?

[vadim]

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How about a barracuda. How does it compare to a black.

I do not use Seagate drives anymore. 7 of them (SEVEN!!!) died in my home computer for the last time. I nver tried Constellation, however.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

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Well Blue is only up to 1TB; so get like a 2 - 4 TB WD Black; that way u have plenty room.
You never need a SSHD (Hybrid HDD) if you have OS on a separate SSD.

They have 6 tb blues. So idk what your talking about.

Yea 5400rpm BS. You never want that crap for a gaming drive that has the Apps/Games running off it. Those are for general storage, videos, etc. Not installed apps.

Buy WD
Buy Black for Performance and 5-year warranty

[Meurock460]

As a general rule:

If you need 1TB or less, go with a WD Blue. Make sure its the 7200rpm version.

If you need 2TB or more, go with a WD Black.

Stay away from the 2TB+ WD Blues, they are rebranded WD Greens. They are far from ideal for games.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

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They have 6 tb blues. So idk what your talking about.

Yea 5400rpm BS. You never want that crap for a gaming drive that has the Apps/Games running off it. Those are for general storage, videos, etc. Not installed apps.

Buy WD
Buy Black for Performance and 5-year warranty

My 3 TB 5400 RPM drive is at-least twice as quick as my 120 GB 7200 RPM drive though ;)

Having more space and not using all of it also make it faster. But soon (years) SSDs will reach same price / GB as HDDs and then they aren't all that interesting any more for home usage at-least.

[dmdport]

Ok, thanks for all of the replies. So if I need less than a TB then ill go for the blue, but if I need more than ill get a Black. That clears up my questions.

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από dmdport:

How about a barracuda. How does it compare to a black.

I do not use Seagate drives anymore. 7 of them (SEVEN!!!) died in my home computer for the last time. I nver tried Constellation, however.

I currently have 2 2tb Seagate drives as backups and I have not had an issue yet. Ive had them for a little over 4 years.

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

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How about a barracuda. How does it compare to a black. And i understand its there performance line but is it worth the extra cost? Any idea how many seconds it will shave off of load times?

Barracuda is Seagate´s normal desktop drive just as Blue is WDs.
Black is above those but maybe slightly below the enterprise HDDs.
The Seagate enterprise HDDs are Constellation ES and then they have performance drives of both 10 and 15 krpm called Savvio.

Blue only smaller and one variant of the 1 TB drives are 7200 RPM, rest 5400.
Blue 1 TB unload/load cycles 300 000.
Non-recoverable errors per bits read <1 in 10^14.
Limited warranty 2 years.
WD black all are 7200 rpms.
Same stats but 5 years warranty.

WD RE say WD2004FBYZ with 128 MB cache just for the sake of it:
unload/load cycles 600 000.
Non-recoverable errors per bits read <1 in 10^15.
MTBF 2 000 000
Annualized failure rate 0.44.
Limited warranty 5 years.

Barracuda:
Contact start-stop: 50 000.
Load/unload 300 000.
Non-recov. <1 in 10^14.
Annualized failure rate <1% based on 2400 POH (power on hours? = 6.57 hours / day but I guess 24 hours per day on the enterprise drives?)

Constellation ES:
Non-recov. <1 in 10^15.
MTBF 2 000 000.
Annualized failure rate 0.44 (24/7.)
Annualized failure rate Limited warranty 5 years.

So for capacity over 1 TB only Black of the WD normal drives offer 7200 RPM.

Whatever consumer or enterprise hard-drives the specs seem to promise about the same though not all values are everywhere.

An enterprise drive is supposed to be on almost four times as much and break down less than half as often within a period of one year and it has five years rather than two years warranty and have 1/10 as many read-errors as the consumer drive (maybe the consumer drives is better and this is just what they promise / spec as but it's what it says so to say.)

Seagates have a higher defective rate lately I only use WD

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes all the WD Blue that are 5400rpm (you can double-check on WDC.com )
are re-branded WD Green; stay away from em

Yes for any Desktop or Laptop HDD; I would highly suggest using WD model of drive(s).

For any SSDs; look at Intel, Crucial, Samsung

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

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Yes all the WD Blue that are 5400rpm (you can double-check on WDC.com )
are re-branded WD Green; stay away from em

Yes for any Desktop or Laptop HDD; I would highly suggest using WD model of drive(s).

For any SSDs; look at Intel, Crucial, Samsung

Greens are always 5400 rpm and pretty fast, just find 7200 blues faster, almost 100 write speeds and over 200 read.

Best SSDs are M2 and PCI ex, the good ones you mentioned are only SATA, the good m2s and PCI ex are Asus Mushky

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Don't really need PCIE SSD; SATA III is plenty fast.
Though if u want faster and Motherboard lacks an M.2 socket/slot; then u can simply buy an M.2 SSD + M.2 PCIE card

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad-Motha:

Yes all the WD Blue that are 5400rpm (you can double-check on WDC.com )
are re-branded WD Green; stay away from em

Yes for any Desktop or Laptop HDD; I would highly suggest using WD model of drive(s).

For any SSDs; look at Intel, Crucial, Samsung

So I'm ahead of the curve with my 3 TB WD "Blue"? ;D

[Bad 💀 Motha]

No, cause a WD Blue that is 5400rpm, above the 1TB 7200rpm (the last true BLUE drives; ending in models EX, LX, or KX) are all WD Green, generally slow, poor drives. But fine for your average file storage/backups. Just too slow really for "OS installs, App/Game installs" anything where an app is resource-heavy, like most AAA-title Games, u don't want to have actively installed to a 5400rpm drive if u can help it, due to the generally low/poor read/write of those slower performing drives.

WD Blue that are 7200rpm however; are nearly same performance-wise as WD Black; just not offered in high-capacity while having high-performance in-mind. And WD Blue are only 2-3 year warranty, depending on actual model and date. WD Black are all high performance, regardless of available capacity and have 5-year warranty

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

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No, cause a WD Blue that is 5400rpm, above the 1TB 7200rpm (the last true BLUE drives; ending in models EX, LX, or KX) are all WD Green, generally slow, poor drives. But fine for your average file storage/backups. Just too slow really for "OS installs, App/Game installs" anything where an app is resource-heavy, like most AAA-title Games, u don't want to have actively installed to a 5400rpm drive if u can help it, due to the generally low/poor read/write of those slower performing drives.

WD Blue that are 7200rpm however; are nearly same performance-wise as WD Black; just not offered in high-capacity while having high-performance in-mind. And WD Blue are only 2-3 year warranty, depending on actual model and date. WD Black are all high performance, regardless of available capacity and have 5-year warranty

EX is 7200.....

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad-Motha:

Yes all the WD Blue that are 5400rpm (you can double-check on WDC.com )
are re-branded WD Green; stay away from em

Yes for any Desktop or Laptop HDD; I would highly suggest using WD model of drive(s).

For any SSDs; look at Intel, Crucial, Samsung

So I'm ahead of the curve with my 3 TB WD "Blue"? ;D

High capacity drives usually have even more cache and faster read write speed due to end of platter reading faster

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Don't really need PCIE SSD; SATA III is plenty fast.
Though if u want faster and Motherboard lacks an M.2 socket/slot; then u can simply buy an M.2 SSD + M.2 PCIE card

SATA 3 limit is 6gbs, M2 and pci ex and do over 1000 megs.....

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

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SATA 3 limit is 6gbs, M2 and pci ex and do over 1000 megs.....

Or easier:
SATA: ~500 MB / s
PCI-express 3.0 4x: ~4 GB / s

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

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SATA 3 limit is 6gbs, M2 and pci ex and do over 1000 megs.....

Or easier:
SATA: ~500 MB / s
PCI-express 3.0 4x: ~4 GB / s

Actually they can do around 550

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

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Or easier:
SATA: ~500 MB / s
PCI-express 3.0 4x: ~4 GB / s

Actually they can do around 550

I know they usually benchmark slightly above 500. ~ = about / approximately / ..