Help me with my first build!

[Phazon]

This is my first time building a computer. I'm looking for a 600-800$ computer build, however the lower the price the better obviously. I would really love if you guys could provide a full build for me, as well as some describing of the parts in it. That being said I'm not TOTALLY an idiot with pc hardware, I just don't know every little detail with pc specs. And finally I'll totally look at any of the builds you provide, but the more knowledgeable you are the more likely I'll want to communicate about the build you have provided. Again thanks for your help <3

[Phazon]

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

r9 380 and gtx960 are a little on the weak side for 1080p gaming

if you lower settings (turn off aa/af) they will handle it fine

what about this build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WGpXXL

[_I_]

gtx 970 or r9 390 are great for 1080p gaming

[Phazon]

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

gtx 970 or r9 390 are great for 1080p gaming

Alright good. Aside from needing a monitor/OS(any particular in mind by chance?) is everything there? Like soundcard/cables for everything or will i need to also buy those?

[Phazon]

Dr.Phazon eredeti hozzászólása:

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

gtx 970 or r9 390 are great for 1080p gaming

Alright good. Aside from needing a monitor/OS(any particular in mind by chance?) is everything there? Like soundcard/cables for everything or will i need to also buy those?

Whoops, reallized I didn't have a cooling system picked out so i went with CoolMaster http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vVJhsY

[Fluffy]

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

if its a new build go with an i3 or i5
fx is a dead end

$600 usd can build an i5 machine and be better at games

and get a ssd on a new build, skip the hdd and add one later if you need to save $$$

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GK9Vt6

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: *Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: *Raidmax Viper II ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *Corsair Builder 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $642.69

Dont go with an i3 over the 8350 go with the i5 6500 or the 8350 the i5 6500 will perform better than the 8350 in gaming depending on the video card being used

[Phazon]

Fluffy eredeti hozzászólása:

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

if its a new build go with an i3 or i5
fx is a dead end

$600 usd can build an i5 machine and be better at games

and get a ssd on a new build, skip the hdd and add one later if you need to save $$$

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GK9Vt6

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: *Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: *Raidmax Viper II ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *Corsair Builder 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $642.69

Dont go with an i3 over the 8350 go with the i5 6500 or the 8350 the i5 6500 will perform better than the 8350 in gaming depending on the video card being used

I posted a link of my own that tweaks this guys build just a little, check it out of you want and gimmie jnfo

[_I_]

looks good

i5 6500 is good and board with 4 dimm slots

stock cooler is fine for no k cpu, or tx3 is cheap and quiet

[Fluffy]

looks good to me as well stock cooling is ok but the case only has one fan so the tx3 might be a good choice for cool temps.. id stick with tx3 for cool and quiet build

[Phazon]

_I_ eredeti hozzászólása:

looks good

i5 6500 is good and board with 4 dimm slots

stock cooler is fine for no k cpu, or tx3 is cheap and quiet

Is the tx3 a case?

[Phazon]

Fluffy eredeti hozzászólása:

looks good to me as well stock cooling is ok but the case only has one fan so the tx3 might be a good choice for cool temps.. id stick with tx3 for cool and quiet build

Is the tx3 a case?

[_I_]

tx3 is a cpu cooler
easy to install, uses pushpins for intel 11tx cpus
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr910htx3g1

[Capt. Crunche]

$800 Intel Build:

Seen as a mid-range average user PC, the $800 Intel build in the spot light is a general multitasking machine that can even take on some occasional gaming. By utilizing the i5 processor and the Nvidia video card, very little can slow you down.

Motherboard: MSI Gaming Z170A GAMING PRO LGA 1151 Intel Z170 @ $144.99

Processor: Intel Core i5-6500 Quad-Core 3.2GHz @ $204.99

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 960 STRIX-GTX960-DC2OC-2GD5 2GB @ $209.99

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 2400MHz @ $89.99

Case: NZXT S340 White midATX case @ $69.99

Power Supply: XFX TS Series P1550SXXB9 550W @ $61.99

Hard Drive: WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200RPM @ $51.99

Subtotal: $781.94

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

You shouldn't really to go lower than i3 6100 + 8 GB of RAM + GTX 750Ti IMHO.
I personally still use only HDD but people who have SSDs love them but you don't NEED one.
You don't need a very high quality PSU, case, motherboard or additional power available for the PSU but at-least a good quality PSU is .. a good quality PSU. You don't need to replace the fans but something mid-tier is better than the stock one (maybe the lower stuff is too because no-one want to sell the stuff which is WORSE than stock but I can't promise anything.)

So to start with I'd say i3 6100 + 8 or 16 GB of RAM on H110 motherboard (two RAM slots) + GTX 750Ti + I guess in this case 400 watt 80plus PSU is just fine + 1 TB HDD or something such + cheap case. With B150 motherboard 8 GB of RAM is less of an issue because you'd still have two slots left (assuming you buy 2x4 or 2x8 GB to get dual-channel.)

Next step up would be GTX 950/R7 370 and GTX 960/R9 380, I think the R9 380 may recommend 500+ PSU (check it yourself), it may still not be required but I personally would likely go with something like 550+ because that would work with plenty of graphics cards. Corsair RM550x is a nice one but a more expensive one.

If you want to step up the processor first step would be the i5 6500 and beyond that the 6600K + cooler and the i7 6700K + cooler, for the later two the motherboard should be upgraded to Z170 too to allow for over-clocking. At this point one can step up to GTX 970/R9 390 and GTX 980/R9 390X and Fury Nano / GTX 980Ti and at-least for the R9 390/390X and possibly 980Ti or so you maybe should have 650/750 watt PSU too. But then you're far above what you want to pay.

I'm confident you can get an i3 6100 + GTX 750Ti + 8 GB RAM + HDD system for the money.
If you could get an i5 6500 + R9 380 + 16 GB + 250 GB SSD system for instance that would be even better (obvious from the post above mine.)

The i3 6100 + GTX 750Ti/950 would be ~as good as the PS4 or better, it would be very good for many of the popular e-sport games such as Dota2, CS:GO and so on. On the other hand it will not make 60 FPS Full-HD gaming (consistently in good quality in new games.)

The i5 6500 + R9 380 would let you play in Full-HD consistently but not necessarily in 60+ FPS in Ultra, but at lower settings or lower frame-rates it should be pretty fine.

With the GTX 970 / R9 390 it will do Full-HD very fine and with the R9 390 have decent performance in WQHD (2560x1440) too. There will be a few exceptions.

For 4K gaming you really want two graphics cards to get adequate performance with this generation, the next generation (~june 2016) will likely deliver decent performance in 4K even if it may not be capable of 60+ FPS in Ultra. By then I think you should have at-least an overclocked i5 6600K but I would had gotten an i7 (the 6700K or the stuff using socket 2011-3.)

Team AMD have old processors for now, on a very low budget one could get the Intel Pentium G3258 and overclock that or the G4400 and in the AMD camp the Athlon 860K.
An alternative to the i3 6100 is the FX-6300 but I'd take the i3.
Alternative to i5 4460 is the FX-8350 but I'd take the i5 6500.
For anything above that AMD doesn't have anything on offer which can really compete, Zen will likely change that and they will likely be able to compete with at-least all the normal mainstream stuff but possibly also with the high end desktop line (socket 2011-3), maybe not full on in capability but partly by beating the mainstream stuff and offering better prices. We'll see.

On a very extreme budget one can get an APU build like the A10 7850K or so with no graphics cards but it's not a build I'd really want to recommend because it's pretty weak. If will allow the e-sport games to run I guess but it will have limited future and support for any newer more advanced titles.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

As for the future and models I've already listed the about equal performance:

R7 370 - GTX 950
R9 380 - GTX 960
R9 390 - GTX 970

I'd say in many games the AMD cards above are better but in GameWorks titles with Nvidia "improvements" they may perform better. AMD cards supports FreeSync monitors which may be somewhat cheaper and Nvidia cards G-sync ones. The Nvidia cards uses less power and hence create less heat.

The Fury Nano nor the Fury X can't completely reach up to the 980Ti (those cards over-clock well too so .. even worse), the Nano is somewhat special in the AMD high-end line-up because it doesn't use insane amounts of electricity.

For the next generation you can likely assume that the current model of whatever card will be beaten by the next generation card of one tier below.

In the Intel camp i3 for now on desktop means two cores with hyper-threading, i5 mean four cores and i7 mean at-least four cores with hyper-threading. If the number start with 4 or 6 is depending on which generation of the core processors it is, the next three numbers show relative performance within that generation. The Intel generations has given ~10% performance improvement for each generation (not really true and not exact but it give you something to go by.)

[Fluffy]

i have to change one thing for the above post thats the r9 390.. its much closer to 980 even matching or beating out the 980 at higher resolutions due to memory bandwidth.. but overall its about the same as 980... @ 1080p 980 is better @1440p+ r9 390 is better

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-8g-d5,4245.html