Rival 300 vs Deathadder

[nub]

Which has a faster response time? Or are they the same?

It feels like deathadder is slightly faster

[bloodymonarch]

Forget razer garbage whose microswitches fail and require soldering to replace. Seriously, get a gladius. It's just as accurate as a deathadder. Still love this mouse.

[Saegusa Yuu]

It's kinda stupid to say it's garbage. It's not the mouse that makes a player garbage, it's the player himself is the reason for being garbage but not the gear. He is just asking which one has better faster response time. I think what you're getting at is so far away from the topic. You only talk aboutt it's durability, maybe you're too money wise to afford another mouse. Don't compare people to yourself. He is probably okay with the 2 mouses but it's more likely to be your fault now if he buy the wrong ones. Why would you describe a mouse from its durability only.

[Arya]

Nguyên văn bởi ΘΕΟΣ:

Why would you describe a mouse from its durability only.

Because durability is the main thing seperating the two mice that he mentioned. Both are about as accurate, responsive and comfortable as the other. But the Rival 300 is much better built and much more reliable and durable than the Deathadder. Razer products are infamous for breaking through normal use - what would the point be if OP bought a mouse that broke almost instantly?

[Saegusa Yuu]

You're 100% right. AFter all... it all comes down to personal preference. No matter how different they are to each other, it will always be a matter of personal preference when choosing a mouse. I use SS sensei raw rubberized and it's been flawless until now. Soldier said that he already liked the deathadder because it seems to be faster when he is playing cs go. But this guy keeps fanboying SS over Razer products. Lewl, i used deathadder 2013 for like 2 years 12 hours a day for work and 3-5 hours in gaming, it's like 20 of 100 razer mouses are more likely to get defects after several months of use but this guy is spewing non sense like most razer mouses produced are easily broken. - What would be the point in using an expensive mouse that you don't even like?

The first thing to do when buying a mouse is to feel it and test it, make sure you're comfortable with it. Why would you bring up it's durability? SS rivals and Razer deathadder are top build with quality materials. We're not talking about cheap $10 mouse here kid.

[Saegusa Yuu]

Go to reddit and people are more likely to suggest choose which one you prefer. They won't bring up the durability if you're the one asking them. Most People that are subscribed to your thread are annoying. You don't need to use a mouse because people say that you need to... you used the mouse that you like so do the same thing when you get a new one. Go test it yourself.

[Gork]

Nguyên văn bởi 狼 Wolfey ☯:

Not everybody expects a product to last 5+ years.

On the other hand, my steel series keyboard is going strong for 2-3 years. Nothing wrong with it apart from the keyboard arm pad getting dirty. So if i were to go again with some manufactorer i'd recommend steelseries.

Nguyên văn bởi ΘΕΟΣ:

Go to reddit and people are more likely to suggest choose which one you prefer. They won't bring up the durability if you're the one asking them. Most People that are subscribed to your thread are retarded. You don't need to use a mouse because people say that you need to... you used the mouse that you like so do the same thing when you get a new one. Go test it yourself.

This ^.

[Black Mambo № 5]

Had to find a thread where I had described my OWN experience with Razer products after 2013. I mention 2013 becasue since after that their products have taken a toss insofar as quality and reliability is concerned.
Since it was a fairly long post, I'll just link it: http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/135508833657487437/?tscn=1487074420

TL;DR:
Razer's switches for their mice is rather flimsy. They will start getting issues after a few months of usage.

Also, most CS:GO Pro Players don't use Razer. You're simply fooled by smart marketing that Razer does. Majority of them use either Zowie or SteelSeries.
You can check out what the Pros use on the following links:

• http://csgoguru.com/csgo-pro-setups/
  
• http://csgopedia.com/csgo-pro-setups/?b=1
  
• https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UaM765-S515ibLyPaBtMnBz7xiao0HL5f-F1zk_CSF4/edit#gid=1762004852&range=Z:Z
  
• http://on-winning.com/cs-go-config-setup-settings-monitor-mice-sensitivity-pros/

And you can't tell the difference between polling rate, 1Hz is 1Hz whether you are using a Razer or a SteelSeries mouse. There might be a chance that if you installed the mouse, the default polling rate setting would've been higher, but you can change that to 1Hz from the software, not much of a big deal.

Edit: Just realized this is a thread from 2016. Good job whoever bumped it.

[Saegusa Yuu]

Razer and SS products are both good and high quality products. You're more likely to see that most CSGO pro players are using Zowie products because they are sponsored by it and Zowie is partnered with BenQ and BenQ monitors are known to be the number 1 choice for Lan tournaments. Thus, making them the bigger one than the others. CSGO pro players often choose zowie products over anything else so they get sponsored. In LoL which is a MOBA game, most pro players uses Logitechs and Razers because they get sponsored by it, plus a good mouse. However, i don't see the point of bragging about the durability of these two products. Most people complain about SS rival 300 for having a bad side grips when using it makes the grip degrade over time basing on daily basis. I asked a friend just now if he is still using his ss rival 300 and about the grip on it. He said that the mouse works perfectly fine and the grips are still there and still very clean because he clean it after using it. I was using a deathadder chroma for 2 years and i had to find it and test it if it's still working. I'm using it now as substitute for my deathadder elite and still works fine, no double clicks or what so ever. I play 6-8 hours a day. I play some league for like 5 years and used a deathadder mouse and the only issue i get is the double clicking after using it for 2 years.

https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/roughly-how-long-does-the-deathadder-chroma-last.17674/

People are different and they won't use the mouse the same way too obviously. I had to change mouses occasionally because i click the mouse button hard enough like tapping on to something to make sure i hit the right one in competitive game. You feel me? If you're like me, then i will believe you that you used Razer products and had to change to another brand because of it's durability. I was using the blackwidow chroma for like a year and had to change to MX cherry blue switches because i think it's better. It's just a matter of personal preference. It's not like you're a pro and getting sponsorships.

[Black Mambo № 5]

Yes there is a reason to brag and debate about durability. Would you be okay in paying top-dollar for a product only to have it fail on you in a few months? Despite the fact that you were warned in advance regarding it, i.e. there is a HIGHER chance of failure for product X compared to product Y.

I don't know about you, but I've been extensively using Razer Products since the days of the Lachesis(2007). That mouse still works for me, minus the right click which died 2 years ago. I switched to a DA2013 after that and since then I've had nothing but issues with Razer.
I'm not saying EVERYONE has issues with DeathAdder. But simply the amount of people who report issues with Razer is alarmingly higher compared to other established brand such as SteelSeries.

Durability is an ABSOLUTELY important metric to judge a mouse. It is an essential peripheral that will be used extensively on a daily basis. It should absolutely be durable and be able to survive for as long as possible.

Besides, people come here to get opinions and experiences from others who have used the same products. So in case if someone had a bad experience with a certain product they are bound to mention it and warn regarding. And usually the negative experience bit comes from the product being inferior in build quality and longevity. So instead of brown-nosing a certain company and touting your own positive experience with aforementioned product, you should actually take a look at how many people are having real issues with the core functionality of Razer mice compared to those reporting for other brands.

Since you mentioned side-grips in a attempt to drag down the Rival 300, let me use a relevant analogy:
Say, I have 2 cars. X & Y. I drive each car for 100kms(or whatever that is in miles) on an alternate basis from point A to B. I take same care with both. One year later, car X shows signs of significant interior-degradation compared to car Y. However, at the same time, car Y has serious issues with its engine and core components compared to car X.
In this case, which would be the more durable car? The one than still has a functioning & running engine, or the one that looks better from the inside, but doesn't even start?

Think over it and do whatever you want to after that.
And well... bye. No point in dragging a thread from 2016.

[Elon Mosque]

Nguyên văn bởi bloodymonarch:

Forget razer garbage whose microswitches fail and require soldering to replace. Seriously, get a gladius. It's just as accurate as a deathadder. Still love this mouse.

This is what people get things wrong in here. Most of my gaming stuff is razer it was like that since i wanted some better peripherals. My first keyboard was razer lycosa which is almost 6 years old still works today. My Razer Naga molten started to have double clicks like a month ago and i bought it in 2011. I spilled water, mineral water, wine over my Razer black widow and still works. I am really satisfied with their products and I don't understand the people who like to bash it a lot.

[Generation X SMURF]

I have a deathadder, had a roccat savu, just as good but smoother, its a little smaller, I find the deathadder a little too big

[Saegusa Yuu]

Yeah. I think i'm okay with paying top dollar for products that are already known for several years. This is a 2016 year thread. Don't you think it's kinda off to brag about durability of SS over Razer products. Lewl. They are already improved to this point and i think it's nonsense to even mention the durability of these 2 particular brands.

We're not talking about cheap mouse here bro. $30 ain't cheap but still affordable. I don't think it's wrong to spend another $30 if you're looking for a quality time. Lol.

[bloodymonarch]

Nguyên văn bởi Snow Mobile:

Nguyên văn bởi bloodymonarch:

Forget razer garbage whose microswitches fail and require soldering to replace. Seriously, get a gladius. It's just as accurate as a deathadder. Still love this mouse.

This is what people get things wrong in here. Most of my gaming stuff is razer it was like that since i wanted some better peripherals. My first keyboard was razer lycosa which is almost 6 years old still works today. My Razer Naga molten started to have double clicks like a month ago and i bought it in 2011. I spilled water, mineral water, wine over my Razer black widow and still works. I am really satisfied with their products and I don't understand the people who like to bash it a lot.

Bro, I used to use only Razer. Every single one I ever owned started having microswitch problems after a year or two of hardcore gaming use. I ended up going through so many Razer mice over the years I've lost count. None of the optics died, it was always the micro switches. Now I have a ROG Gladius, which has all the exact same benefits of a Razer AND easily replaceable micro switches. Changing the switches doesn't even void the warranty!

[アロジ]

Recently bought Rival 300 and i love it!

[Elon Mosque]

Nguyên văn bởi bloodymonarch:

Bro, I used to use only Razer. Every single one I ever owned started having microswitch problems after a year or two of hardcore gaming use. I ended up going through so many Razer mice over the years I've lost count. None of the optics died, it was always the micro switches. Now I have a ROG Gladius, which has all the exact same benefits of a Razer AND easily replaceable micro switches. Changing the switches doesn't even void the warranty!

Yeah you may be right as every user can have different experiences with their products. But for me and all of my friends who owns razer products never had any issues at all. One of them owning Deatheradder Chroma and he is really happy with it. Im sure ROG seires are also nice mouses but there is no need to call razer products trash or something.