cpl.TF 6. juli 2016 kl. 0.11
ASUS ROG Strix RX 480 vs Sapphire RX 480 Nitro
Which one do you guys think would be better? I know that the specs of the cards haven't been released yet but I want to see your opinions about the aftermarket RX 480s.
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[AUT] Rurdo 6. juli 2016 kl. 6.10 
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You only look at the Price. Just like your dumb comparison at the CPU thread.

Nvidia only costs so much because its Nvidia...
1080 has same level of performance as 1 980 ti. You cant compare 1 GPU to a SLI config. Its like im telling you "if i stack 2 eiffel towers, they will be bigger than the Empire State building"
See, completely nonsense.

AMD's FuryX and now the RX Series only need DX12 and some optimization, then it will rock Nvidias Ass. Problem is, Fanboys like you only buy Nvidia, so they can pay the Game-makers to better implement Nvidia-Drivers rather than AMD.

I think most people in this forum are not Nvidia fanboys. People just want what is best for other people's gaming rigs and right now Intel and Nvidia are delivering, especially Intel. A lot people want AMD to do well because when there is good competition prices go way down and then everybody is happy. I have recommended Nvidia gpus because AMD gpus would not get enough power on some lower end power supplies which tends to be the case in the GTX 900/700 vs R9 300/200 scenario. I have recommend the 1070/1080 gpu over the RX480 because they are just MUCH FASTER and if you have money to buy one there is no reason to go for the 480.

And I always recommend Intel CPUs over AMD 100% of the time because Intel is just better for gaming. They are so fast the multicore performance of i3 6100 is similliar to that of a FX6300 and blow it away in single core peformance like most intel processors do. Now the only time I see anyone buying an FX processor is if the country they live in the price gap between AMD and Intel is very very huge. No one is a Intel or Nvida fanboy people are just trying to recommend what is best for others.

Im completely on your side if it comes to the CPU discussion.
Only Intel. Everytime.

BUT
Many Gamers have like 600-1000 Bucks for their PC.
If you want to Build a good quality PC you cannot afford a good Nvidia Graphics card for the rest of the money.
If someone comes up to me and tells me hes got over 1k he will get a Nvidia GPU for sure.
Venlord 6. juli 2016 kl. 6.20 
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I think most people in this forum are not Nvidia fanboys. People just want what is best for other people's gaming rigs and right now Intel and Nvidia are delivering, especially Intel. A lot people want AMD to do well because when there is good competition prices go way down and then everybody is happy. I have recommended Nvidia gpus because AMD gpus would not get enough power on some lower end power supplies which tends to be the case in the GTX 900/700 vs R9 300/200 scenario. I have recommend the 1070/1080 gpu over the RX480 because they are just MUCH FASTER and if you have money to buy one there is no reason to go for the 480.

And I always recommend Intel CPUs over AMD 100% of the time because Intel is just better for gaming. They are so fast the multicore performance of i3 6100 is similliar to that of a FX6300 and blow it away in single core peformance like most intel processors do. Now the only time I see anyone buying an FX processor is if the country they live in the price gap between AMD and Intel is very very huge. No one is a Intel or Nvida fanboy people are just trying to recommend what is best for others.

Im completely on your side if it comes to the CPU discussion.
Only Intel. Everytime.

BUT
Many Gamers have like 600-1000 Bucks for their PC.
If you want to Build a good quality PC you cannot afford a good Nvidia Graphics card for the rest of the money.
If someone comes up to me and tells me hes got over 1k he will get a Nvidia GPU for sure.

Yeah but when 1060 comes out and it has 980 peformance and is only $20-$50 more exspensive I am pretty sure most gamers will spend the extra money on 1060 seeing how there use is a huge price gap between the 970 and 980. With the RX 480 peforming like a 970.

Edit: What would be worse is if the price point of the 1060 was the same as the 480 then most will not buy the 480.
Sist redigert av Venlord; 6. juli 2016 kl. 6.22
shiel 6. juli 2016 kl. 7.42 
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Why sould they release a Card thats actually worse than their "older" cards like FuryX and R9 390.
Paid "Review". No mentioning about DX12. Nvidia Fanboys there.

I don't know why I'm even bothering to respond to you but here it goes...

The 480 is a $200 card, it's a budget card. By your rational why would Nvidia release the 1070? The 1080 is better.

The idea is to release a card to fit every budget. The 480 is an amazing card for $200 and its price vs performance is excellent HOWEVER, it's still just a budget card and the higher end amds and nvidias will destroy it (at a much higher price tag).

I don't think you really seem to understand what you're taking about. Either that or you just pulled an epic troll job.
[AUT] Rurdo 6. juli 2016 kl. 8.23 
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Why sould they release a Card thats actually worse than their "older" cards like FuryX and R9 390.
Paid "Review". No mentioning about DX12. Nvidia Fanboys there.

I don't know why I'm even bothering to respond to you but here it goes...

The 480 is a $200 card, it's a budget card. By your rational why would Nvidia release the 1070? The 1080 is better.

The idea is to release a card to fit every budget. The 480 is an amazing card for $200 and its price vs performance is excellent HOWEVER, it's still just a budget card and the higher end amds and nvidias will destroy it (at a much higher price tag).

I don't think you really seem to understand what you're taking about. Either that or you just pulled an epic troll job.

They dont "release" the 1070. It has already been released. The 10XX is an entire version of 1 chip just clocked a lil bit higher or lower, more or less vram and so on.

They are doing it just that most of Nvidia fanboys who cant wait will buy the 1080.

RX is a new gen. Why should they release a new generation if its worse than their old gen.

The 1070 and 1080 are the same thing. Nothing new about the 1070 or 1060. But the RX is new.
shiel 6. juli 2016 kl. 8.48 
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I don't know why I'm even bothering to respond to you but here it goes...

The 480 is a $200 card, it's a budget card. By your rational why would Nvidia release the 1070? The 1080 is better.

The idea is to release a card to fit every budget. The 480 is an amazing card for $200 and its price vs performance is excellent HOWEVER, it's still just a budget card and the higher end amds and nvidias will destroy it (at a much higher price tag).

I don't think you really seem to understand what you're taking about. Either that or you just pulled an epic troll job.

They dont "release" the 1070. It has already been released. The 10XX is an entire version of 1 chip just clocked a lil bit higher or lower, more or less vram and so on.

They are doing it just that most of Nvidia fanboys who cant wait will buy the 1080.

RX is a new gen. Why should they release a new generation if its worse than their old gen.

The 1070 and 1080 are the same thing. Nothing new about the 1070 or 1060. But the RX is new.
Then why does the 370 perform worse than the 270x, 280x, etc?
vadim 6. juli 2016 kl. 8.52 
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The 10XX is an entire version of 1 chip
Wrong
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RX is a new gen. Why should they release a new generation if its worse than their old gen.
Wrong
Opprinnelig skrevet av AUT Rurdo:
The 1070 and 1080 are the same thing.
Wrong
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But the RX is new.
Wrong

You should educate yourself a bit. GTX 1080 based on brand new microarchitecture (based on older Maxwell, however). Polaris by nature is the same old CGN (slighly improved) reimplemented in better manufacturing process.
Ghraal 13. juli 2016 kl. 3.25 
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The 10XX is an entire version of 1 chip
Wrong
Opprinnelig skrevet av AUT Rurdo:
RX is a new gen. Why should they release a new generation if its worse than their old gen.
Wrong
Opprinnelig skrevet av AUT Rurdo:
The 1070 and 1080 are the same thing.
Wrong
Opprinnelig skrevet av AUT Rurdo:
But the RX is new.
Wrong

You should educate yourself a bit. GTX 1080 based on brand new microarchitecture (based on older Maxwell, however). Polaris by nature is the same old CGN (slighly improved) reimplemented in better manufacturing process.

That and they tacked on 9 Teraflops of processing for the 1080 model. The 1070 and 1080 have very different PCB layouts, and from what I understand the 1060 is based on the 1070's layout.

Something to keep in mind while purchasing though - SLI is disabled by nVidia for the 1060 3GB models, so not even ASUS or Sapphire will be able to help you there.
DarkStarClassic 13. juli 2016 kl. 4.28 
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Strix could be a better option since Asus uses its own pcb and adds more phases,extra power etc. Cooling can be argued since Sapphire also have good cooling but Asus may shine because RGB and other Asus features.

Sapphire too?

I would say sapphire because its not worth to pay likely 50-100 bucks more just for the ASUS sign.



Opprinnelig skrevet av vadim:
You will be able to buy GTX 1060 when they will be released.

The 1060 will be much worse than the RX 480. The RX 480 can compete with the GTX 1080. No need for a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 1060.


I am a huge AMD fan but i stay honest and objective. So show me where it almost compete with 1080???

It can't it come close now in DOOM with VULKAN to more expansive 1070 20% difference but thats one game.

This reference card and awesome achievement but its vulkan Async compute thats doing it in one game.

Oh and to those who say RX480 is beaten by 970 are false in every way only super biased sites showing this fake benches that 970 3.5gb old card beats the RX480 8GB card only gamecraps nvidia sponsored games where AMD is gimped by criminal organisation called Nvid(maf)ia.

RX 480 is great card for only 239 dollars 8GB its on avarage around 980 performance in DX12/VULKAN supported games which is FUTURE not DX11.

GTX 1060 will probably in some DX11 games beat the RX480 but i very doub it will beat RX480 in any DX12/Vulkan supported game.

Its ok being fan of brand but stay honest and objective don't lie about performance ok.

@OP,

Sapphire is AMD only GPU maker and awesome brand ASUS is maybe bigger and both brands but if you want true AMD experience buy SAPPHIRE:)

Here a video with vulkan to CRUSH nvidia fans there dream cards to budget bin:P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyuoQIuEZj0

Remember here RX480 is in this bench a reference card not OC and cost only 239$ compare to the 1070 450$ card.
Sist redigert av DarkStarClassic; 13. juli 2016 kl. 4.39
nicolò 27. aug. 2016 kl. 5.56 
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Strix could be a better option since Asus uses its own pcb and adds more phases,extra power etc. Cooling can be argued since Sapphire also have good cooling but Asus may shine because RGB and other Asus features.

Sapphire too?

I would say sapphire because its not worth to pay likely 50-100 bucks more just for the ASUS sign.



Opprinnelig skrevet av vadim:
You will be able to buy GTX 1060 when they will be released.

The 1060 will be much worse than the RX 480. The RX 480 can compete with the GTX 1080. No need for a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 1060.

480 compete with 1080? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA amd superfanboy here i see... 480 is lucky if compete with 1060... LOL
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