PC UPGRADE/ What is my bottleneck?

[Nosebit]

Current PC SPEC:

Processor (CPU):
Intel® Core™ i5 Six Core Processor i5-9600K (3.7 GHz)

Motherboard:
ASUS® TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING

Memory (RAM):
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card:
8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 5700 XT

1st M.2 SSD Drive:
256GB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3210MB/sR | 1315MB/sW)

1st Storage Drive:
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE

Power Supply:
CORSAIR 650W VS SERIES™ VS-650 POWER SUPPLY

Processor Cooling:
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm)


I'm looking to upgrade by PC but not sure what the bottleneck currently is.
I definitely think I need a better cooling system.

Ideally I'm looking to play the latest AAA titles with decent graphics settings at minimum 60FPS. Is this realistic with my specs?

Any suggestions would be great, thank you.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

There are no bottlenecks really, it`s fairly well balanced and should have no problems getting 60 fps in 1080p, no matter what game.
Could use additional SSD to install modern games that really benefit from being on SSD.

[Soulreaver]

There is maybe a slight imbalance between CPU and GPU but thats a pretty far stretch.
Your Motherboard is also somewhat overkill but that doesn't realy matter at this point.

But balance is also based on usecase.

What do you want it to do that it doesn't do now?

[N3tRunn3r]

While your RX 5700 XT is equivalent to a RTX 2060 S, it is obviously your i5 processor which bottlenecks. Get an i7 at least as i5's are not really for gaming..

A better CPU is always more important than an overkill GPU..

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

I can't see any bottleneck, i5-9600K has 6 cores, and since you have a Z series Mobo, you can overclock it. Enough to handle any mid-range GPU just fine.

You should comfortably get 60 fps in most games with your PC at 1080p. You didn't mention what your screen resolution is, if you are playing at higher resolution, a better GPU like RTX 3070 or 3080 will help.

[kiwikev]

lack of hyperthreading leaves you at 6 threads

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Are there any games having issues with meeting your expectations? Seem fine to me, not sure what you're after exactly if doing 1080p, 1440p, or 4k. Cooling is fine, but if you're CPU going above 90c ensure you had enough paste to begin with, normally they come pre apply which should be fine, if not ensure apply enough; another thing tweak the voltage down a little this can reduce heating as well, just ensure not to lower too much that cause BSOD, this may take several tries to get it right, so stress to ensure it fine as you're using a Z board with k CPU.

The only thing can do really without replacing the motherboard is CPU, and GPU upgrade if want to push more, but same time since this is no longer in the make for 9th gen, prices might vary how that goes, and might be better off getting new board with CPU, and try to avoid DDR5 since pricing still little high. To put it in bad light i5 11400 almost good as i9 9900 despite two cores less, and we got the 12th gen where they're slapping e cores onto it, which does actually benefit even more, but again pricing may vary what you want to do.

[Nosebit]

Thank you for the advice so far.

I play in 1080p and I play a range of games.

I have encountered problems playing many games, when I downloaded BF5 it was unplayable even at the lowest settings.

Warzone would just about be okay on low quality settings.

Maybe it is not a hardware issue but a software issue?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Make sure you have latest drivers for your RX 5700 XT from AMD website.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 Nosebit：

Thank you for the advice so far.

I play in 1080p and I play a range of games.

I have encountered problems playing many games, when I downloaded BF5 it was unplayable even at the lowest settings.

Warzone would just about be okay on low quality settings.

Maybe it is not a hardware issue but a software issue?

Yeah... That sound like a major software issue.

- Ensure your CPU, and GPU is not overheating, can use hardware monitor software to check that out, when testing to play your games.

- Make sure your display only plug into your GPU, not your motherboard, or else it won't be using your GPU. https://imgur.com/G42CKIy


- If this is a video driver issue, get DDU Display driver uninstaller, unzip it, boot into Windows safe mode with network mode, and run DDU, ensure it select AMD if not, select AMD from drop menu, only use the recommmened option which is clean & restart, once it finished, boot back into windows normally, and install your AMD video driver, and test.

[N3tRunn3r]

> Win + R
> dxdiag
> check your BIOS version
> update BIOS if neccessary:

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-Z390-PLUS-GAMING/HelpDesk_BIOS/


NVidia has an option to select a preferred GPU
https://www.nvidia.com/content/Control-Panel-Help/vLatest/en-us/mergedProjects/nv3d/Manage_3D_Settings_(reference).htm

..Use high-performance NVIDIA processor for maximum performance or for decoding all video played on displays connected to the integrated graphics..

Not sure if AMD/Ati has also such an option. It sounds like your System doesnt automatically apply/enable your GPU while playing..

[[☥] - CJ -]

Upgrading to an i7 would be an option with a good board like that, otherwise a better GPU.
Main thing that needs an upgrade though is your STORAGE, OS drive could be better.. Check out amazons sales going on right now

[mtono]

mr threadstarter,
as for your battlefied problems, i would buy new/very fast cpu and mainboard. the ram can be used for this system. i dont think that your 5700xt/ amd cannot handle the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whtYQGmi7AU


edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGjZCkvqdSU

there is something worng with your setup. you may have malware or so. i would just reinstall windows(clean install), install amd gfx software and the game BF 5 and if rhis then doesnt work, some hardware must be faulty, but i cannot imagine, what hardware. give a clean install a chance...my opinion.

[_I_]

there is always a bottleneck

with all forms of vsync disabled, the games engine determines the max fps
if the gpu is at 99-100% the gpu is the limit
if not, most likely its the cpu or some other factor


higher res take more gpu
higher fps takes more cpu and gpu

[mtono]

引用自 _I_：

there is always a bottleneck

with all forms of vsync disabled, the games engine determines the max fps
if the gpu is at 99-100% the gpu is the limit
if not, most likely its the cpu or some other factor


higher res take more gpu
higher fps takes more cpu and gpu

i want to say something: i would always prefer a GPU(grafix board) bottleneck. i am somebody, that wants the CPU in perfect speed(as fast as possible) and so i prefer GPU bottleneck for gaming.. a slower CPU is no good. what would one say?

[Illusion of Progress]

引用自 ilse&inge：

i want to say something: i would always prefer a GPU(grafix board) bottleneck. i am somebody, that wants the CPU in perfect speed(as fast as possible) and so i prefer GPU bottleneck for gaming.. a slower CPU is no good. what would one say?

I would say it's mostly irrelevant (there are nuances and exceptions so I say mostly) which one is the bottleneck. And as there is always a bottleneck, it only matters if performance is below the level you desire.

So it only matters which one is the bottleneck if you desire more performance and need to determine which is best to upgrade.