i5 6500 and ddr4 future proof or i5 4690k and z97 pro4

[Jack888 Trading]

I like to play games: csgo, gta 5, division
WHich one is better choice

[76561198135154379]

Same price: the first.

But if you can get significant savings on the second, go for it. The every day differences are minimal.

[_I_]

4690k can be overclocked, beats out the locked 6500
if you can affor the 6500k and z170 board get that instead for being more future-resistant

so far there is no current game that needs more than the stock 6500 or 4690k
and nothing is future-proof

[Azza ☠]

DDR3 is already discontinued. DDR4 will be it's replacement in the future. Therefore the better option, if purchasing a new system, would be Intel Skylake i5 6500.

Performance wise for gaming purposes, both will be about the same (depending more on the high-end gaming graphics card for performance). However, Intel Skylake is 10% overall more powerful system, doubles bandwidth allowance in areas of the motherboard, and allows for newer technology components (better PCI-e, M.2, SATA, USB 3.1).

[Fluffy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von _I_:

4690k can be overclocked, beats out the locked 6500
if you can affor the 6500k and z170 board get that instead for being more future-resistant

so far there is no current game that needs more than the stock 6500 or 4690k
and nothing is future-proof

+1 and theres not that much of a difference between the higher speed ddr3 modules and ddr4 ram the 4690k+good ddr3 ram is a good option especially since it will oc well.. wont notice any difference between the two (even oced) on cs:go though.. the other games you would depending on the graphics card

[banzaigtv]

An i5-4690k is about the same performance at stock, but the upgrade path is minimal (the only available upgrade is an i7-4790k). Get a Z170 motherboard and i5-6500, then you can upgrade to a Kaby Lake or Cannonlake i7 if you need more performance.

[Revelene]

For the two listed, the 4690K can be overclocked to get more performance than the 6500.

The performance differences between Devil's Canyon and Skylake are minimal. I was personally not impressed with Skylake. But if you are in the market for a new setup, then Skylake would be a good place to start since it is the latest generation... though you should think about getting the 6600K as it is unlocked.

FYI, nothing is future proof.

[banzaigtv]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Revelene:

For the two listed, the 4690K can be overclocked to get more performance than the 6500.

The performance differences between Devil's Canyon and Skylake are minimal. I was personally not impressed with Skylake. But if you are in the market for a new setup, then Skylake would be a good place to start since it is the latest generation... though you should think about getting the 6600K as it is unlocked.

FYI, nothing is future proof.

Right. Eventually you'll need to upgrade sometime. Not even NVMe SSDs are future proof.

[_I_]

also depends on what board he gets
intel is scheduled to release another 1151 cpu series
(* if they stick to the tick/tock cycle)
in which case he would need a z170 board to overclock the next compatable cpu

currently, the 4690k overclocked can beat out the 6500 in a non z board
6500 in z board can be overclocked via fsb/bclk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrfTcXQlsbs

[banzaigtv]

But I thought that recently Intel disabled overclocking on locked i5s. While the i7s gain the upper hand in recent games, getting an i5-4690k or 6600k is more cost-effective when overclocked.

[_I_]

intel said its disabled, but you can get a bios for the board that still allows it

[Jack888 Trading]

Thx i will probably go for r9 380 and i5 6600k rather than i5 4690k zotac 970

[shiel]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von _I_:

(* if they stick to the tick/tock cycle)

Intel already said they are doing tick-tick-tock now.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/225353-intel-formally-kills-its-tick-tock-approach-to-processor-development

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

I would say the 4690K.

But personally I would also be ok with spending the extra money for the 6600K, but yeah, over-clocked 4690K will likely beat the 6500 (maybe not overclocked too.)

If overclocking doesn't interest you then the E3-1231v3 instead of the 4690K may interest you, it cost a little more but adds hyper-threading instead of overclocking.
https://youtu.be/YKfUEWjrAYM?t=2m
(The i5 6500 shouldn't be overclockable but he use the overclocking method which was possible in the video.)

[Axu]

I would take I5 4690K. It will beat 6600K if u overclock it. And it's also quite future proof.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Azza ☠:

DDR3 is already discontinued. DDR4 will be it's replacement in the future. Therefore the better option, if purchasing a new system, would be Intel Skylake i5 6500.

Performance wise for gaming purposes, both will be about the same (depending more on the high-end gaming graphics card for performance). However, Intel Skylake is 10% overall more powerful system, doubles bandwidth allowance in areas of the motherboard, and allows for newer technology components (better PCI-e, M.2, SATA, USB 3.1).

Btw DDR3 isn't yet discontinued ;D

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Axu:

I would take I5 4690K. It will beat 6600K if u overclock it. And it's also quite future proof.

You mean if one don't overclock the 6600K too?
Because surely an overclocked 6600K is better than an overclocked 4690K?

Not overclocked the 6600K is quite a bit better than 4690K:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_5p9wd2dk

I'm not successful to find a test where both has been overclocked (vs i7s):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWxncqbe1H8

UserBenchmarks depends on what the users have done to their systems:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4690K/3503vs2432
6600K +9% single, quad and multi-core.
6600K: +11, 10, 10% OC single, quad and multi-core.

+12% single core int speed
+11% -- fp speed
+10% quad core int speed
+11% -- fp speed
+11% both int and fp multi-core speed

So about 10% better for the 6600K than the 4690K.