MSI VS ALIENWARE FOR LAPTOP

[Sonk]

I personally have and MSI GP62 6QF but would like to hear reasons for whatever you chose!

Will an MSI GP62 6QF be able to play any new Assassin's Creed games, even at ultra low?

[Revelene]

Branding does not determine performance... But it does, however, determine what kind of bloatware comes pre-installed.

Hardware determines performance.

[Sonk]

But MSI has GT80 Titan which is far better than any Alienware

[Air]

With gaming laptops, you typically want to go with ASUS or MSI.

[Sonk]

Why not alien?

[Revelene]

Messaggio originale di ProGamerJamie:

But MSI has GT80 Titan which is far better than any Alienware

It's the hardware inside that determines performance.

The specific model GT80 Titan SLI from MSI is simply that... A model. It has hardware inside. You can get the same hardware from Alienware offerings.

Again, branding does not determine performance.

[vadim]

Messaggio originale di Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

Again, branding does not determine performance.

That is true for desktops, but not for laptops. Because laptops always have throttling problems. And throttling depends on cooling and cooling depends on brand.

[Revelene]

Messaggio originale di vadim:

Messaggio originale di Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

Again, branding does not determine performance.

That is true for desktops, but not for laptops. Because laptops always have throttling problems. And throttling depends on cooling and cooling depends on brand.

That is dependent on model design, not branding.

One specific brand could release one laptop with horrible cooling, but release another one with good cooling.

It is true for all products. Falling victim to branding and fanboyism is never good.

[vadim]

Really cooling is one of most conservative part of laptops. We always see new models with better CPU, graphics, storage subsystem, LCD matrix, backlight, LEDs and so on, but cooling and, say, keyboard rarely been redesigned for new models with the same diagonal.

[Sonk]

Will my MSI GP62 6FQ be able to play syndicate? At all

[The Grapist]

I just mentioned this yesterday, but the people have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to laptops. If they are just going to relay some spoon fed opinion they know nothing about they shouldn't contribute at all.

There are far more high end, enthusiast grade laptop manufacturers than the AW and MSI.
You should head over to XoticPC, they will have all of the options available at very good prices.
I would look heavily into Sager/Clevo machines, as they tend to have the most/best price/performance ratio, but not all the bells and whistles as the MSI/AW.

Focus less on brands and more on hardware. Look for anything i7 (Desktop CPU if you can), however much RAM you need, and try to get something like a GTX 970M, or GTX 980M. They both overclock very well, I've personally pushed the GTX 970M to 1400Mhz on the core and +600Mhz on the memory clock with a +75mV increase on the Vcc.

And yes, the GTX 960M should be able to play 90% of games on high settings.

[vadim]

Messaggio originale di Viceroy:

Focus less on brands and more on hardware.

I had two Sager/Clevo laptops before and will never buy this trash again. Poor design and low quality. So, don't confuse desktops and laptops. Brand is extremely importand when you choose laptop.

Messaggio originale di Viceroy:

Look for anything i7 (Desktop CPU if you can)

Are you suggesting to try to find laptop with desktop i7? Are you joking?

[The Grapist]

Messaggio originale di vadim:

Messaggio originale di Viceroy:

Focus less on brands and more on hardware.

I had two Sager/Clevo laptops before and will never buy this trash again. Poor design and low quality. So, don't confuse desktops and laptops. Brand is extremely importand when you choose laptop.

Messaggio originale di Viceroy:

Look for anything i7 (Desktop CPU if you can)

Are you suggesting to try to find laptop with desktop i7? Are you joking?

Of course I'm not joking, if it's in his budget he can get i7-6700K/Xeon based machines all day long. My D900F had an i7-990X Six core CPU. You can even get an 12/16-Core Xeon chip in the new ones if you don't want the Unlocked i7's. In addition to 64GB's of DDR4.

Not sure which machines you've had, but me and many others have never had any sort of a bad experience with Sager/Clevo.

This was the Panther 4 from a few years ago. As you can see, EVERYTHING is upgradable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkfCtnULB_Y

[Kartoffelsuppe]

One word of advice, you better stay away from Dell/Alienware when you buy a laptop.

[neroZzero-2035]

Messaggio originale di lolibus:

One word of advice, you better stay away from Dell/Alienware when you buy a laptop.

why?????????

[Cathulhu]

Simple, they charge you through the nose for something you can get a lot cheaper from Asus or MSI.