Is 1440p gaming to 4K gaming a worthy upgrade?

[Dobke]

Hi, I've been gaming on 1440p for some time now and I was blown away upgrading from 1080p. I've never played PC games on a 4K monitor, but I did play PS5 games on a 4K TV and honestly don't see a big difference on the TV maybe because it's played from afar.

If you play games on a 4K monitor how do you recommend upgrading to a 4K monitor? Is it much better or nah?

PS: I am planning on getting the newer generation cards from AMD and wondering if I should get a 4K monitor too, if it's not that worth it I'll just get the card and save money by keeping the 2K monitor.

Thank you in advance!

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

I have not played on 4K but from what I heard going from 1440p to 4K wont be as big effect as going from 1080p to 1440p.

[Crashed]

Right now I'm playing Final Fantasy XV, and the visual fidelity is incredible. Make sure to purchase a graphics card that has at least 10GB of RAM, and is at least the equivalent of a RTX 3080. More VRAM is even better and will help reduce stutter and framerate drops caused by running out.

[CZI]

I think it's depends on game and hardware performance.

I was playing Monster Hunter World lately with Gen 9 i9 + RTX 2080Ti.
A) 1440p is about 120-140fps.
B) 4K is about 80fps.
In this case, I much prefer A).

When I play on SoulCalibur 6 (limited 60fps as fighting game).
Both runs 60fps on 4K and 1440p.
I just use 4K for video. Audience prefer 4K than 1440p.

My 4K environment is used TV (Sony X85K 42inch).
The TV does not support RGB (4:4:4) and only support 4:2:2 on 120Hz.
It is very poor resolution and almost half.
(60Hz is supprted RGB though)

Ref.
https://www.pengohome.com/Learn_Detail.asp?LiD=256CFF928D8943134016E659D7F6946B

So if you are OK with 60Hz, some low standard 4K TV would be fine.
But if you like to have 4K 120Hz, it's better to check detail specs and reviews.

[76561198343548661]

The bigger the screen the higher resolution is needed , you know . For 27 inch monitor 1440p is enough , 42 inch - 4K (32inch is acceptable too)

[Rod]

1080p 24 inch 91ppi
4k 27 inch 163ppi
1440p 27 inch 109ppi


Do the maths you see the gains. Its about 25% sharper to go from 1080p to 1440p and 1440p to 4k is 50%. Why do people say its not as much as 1080 to 1440 when in reality its twice as much.

[Crawl]

Originally posted by Rodders:

1080p 24 inch 91ppi
4k 27 inch 163ppi
1440p 27 inch 109ppi


Do the maths you see the gains. Its about 25% sharper to go from 1080p to 1440p and 1440p to 4k is 50%. Why do people say its not as much as 1080 to 1440 when in reality its twice as much.

Because 99% of the people who chime in have never actually used a 4k monitor and are just repeating something they read on a forum or saw on Youtube. You can really spot the clueless ones when they start telling you that you need some specific monitor size to resolution ratio.

[UserNotFound]

Originally posted by Crawl:

Because 99% of the people who chime in have never actually used a 4k monitor and are just repeating something they read on a forum or saw on Youtube. You can really spot the clueless ones when they start telling you that you need that you need some specific monitor size to resolution ratio.

Heh, so true! Many have not even tried 4K, yet have expressed opinions based on what they've read or seen online. I, myself, have only tried 4K on my TV, which at 65", needs to be so, because 1080P is quite good enough.

I game on two different rigs, hence two different monitors. One's a 3840x1080 49" 32:9 144Hz display, and the other a 34" 21:9 3440x1440 75Hz display. I think as long as the monitor goes up to 32' to 34", 1440P is perfectly fine. It's only when you go higher, like >40" that I think 4K becomes necessary.

Also, bear in mind that when you go up to 4K, it only makes sense IF you have, or intend to get, a powerful GPU to go with it, minimum RX 6950XT/RTX3080 Ti or RTX 4080/90 or incoming RX 7900 series.

[76561198343548661]

i think 27-28 inch monitor is the best option for gamers . Anything above is too big . Yep, some prefer them but it s too big indeed .

[Komarimaru]

While diminishing returns is a thing, only way ya hitting DR is 8K on a 27 inch monitor, since pushes that well above 300 ppi if memory serves right.

[Komarimaru]

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

While diminishing returns is a thing, only way ya hitting DR is 8K on a 27 inch monitor, since pushes that well above 300 ppi if memory serves right.

What makes 300ppi so special exactly? Compared to 200ppi or 400ppi?

This isn't a variation of humans can only see 24/30/60FPS, but ppi instead, is it? So, human beings can only see 300ppi? Or is this some sort scenario where of industry standard is you export art at 300ppi, so that must be a magic number that applies to anything using pixels?

I'm open to more information about the claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_density

Basically, unless ya using a magnifying device, you'll not notice it past 300 ppi.

Same reason why humans can't view microscopic things with the naked eye.

Build quality matters though as well, why rtings.com shows the sub pixel layout in each monitor it tests.

Like so.
https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/tPauqa85/dell-alienware-aw3423dw/pixels-large.jpg

[Pocahawtness]

No. 1440P is about optimum (still) for gaming.

I currently use a 4k and I am downgrading to 3440x1440.

There are far more important things than resolution imo. In particular, you better be prepared to spend a lot more on your graphics card because 4K is still difficult to drive if you want good fps
rate and you don't want to have to start messing with things like DLSS.

[Komarimaru]

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_density

Basically, unless ya using a magnifying device, you'll not notice it past 300 ppi.

Same reason why humans can't view microscopic things with the naked eye.

Build quality matters though as well, why rtings.com shows the pixel layout in each monitor it tests.

Are you sure you understand what diminishing returns are? If you're claiming the upper limit of what a human being can see is also the line where diminishing returns begins, well that's not a definition I would agree to.

The idea of diminishing returns, at least when we're talking about human perception, is really a comment on the limits of human perception. Where we can make dramatic improvements in a technology, but humans have a hard time perceiving that improvement linearly. So if the current technology is already good, making it twice as good may not have the same impact on user perception as the last time it was doubled, or otherwise significantly improved.

And that effect increases the closer you get to the limits of what humans can actually perceive.

Uh, I think you're vastly confused now. Yes, there are diminishing returns, but then as I said, you'd have to be running an 8k Display at 27" to see the cap, hence PPI changes based on screen size. Keep in mind, this is also meaning normal viewing distance. If you've got ya face close to the screen, you'll see notice a higher PPI like on high end smart phone models.

Also why I mentioned build quality matters.

And even I can easily tell the visual difference between two monitors of the same size but different resolution design. The only time I've struggled was in displaying a game/image on a 8k TV, was it at 4k or 8k for what was shown on screen? Couldn't tell. But could tell it was an 8k screen.

[skOsH♥]

I'm going to make the leap from 1080p to 1440p

Simply because I like higher fps and higher monitor refresh rates

4k I see no need for. It's just going to slow down my games

[Jamebonds1]

If you only want 27" monitor then there is no need to get a 4K version. It won't make much difference. There is report that some 27" 4K monitor owner have hard time to read UI because 4K res settings make it smaller.

But if you're planning to get 32" monitor then you need a 4K version.

[Rod]

Originally posted by Jamebonds1:

If you only want 27" monitor then there is no need to get a 4K version. It won't make much difference. There is report that some 27" 4K monitor owner have hard time to read UI because 4K res settings make it smaller.

But if you're planning to get 32" monitor then you need a 4K version.

If bad game coding and lack of foresight it how we move with tech then we will have mega size 8k displays. I really get irked by thier silly arguement lets all stay on 90ppi so the UI is just right.


Id rather move on and play something that lets me enjoy high PPI and has a scaling that remains the same no matter the PPI. If the programs UI is too small then that software is not modern and should be patched.