1920x1080 to 2560x1440 :: Hardware and Operating Systems

_I_ Jul 21, 2016 @ 1:16pm

if the gpu is good enough to play games at 1440p

1080 -> 1440 at the same settings will result in about half the fps
for newer games gtx 1070+ or 980+ or better will be good for it

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Cask Jul 21, 2016 @ 2:36pm

I've just bought the 1080. Running with the 4790k. from what I can see my fps won't be so low. Just wondering whether the money will be well spent on a 2560 monitor....

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Azza ☠ Jul 21, 2016 @ 2:51pm

1080p to 1440p is a 70% increase in pixels.

Consider your graphics card

970 - Optimal for 1080p
980 - Optimal for 1440p

GTX 1060 = faster than GTX 980
GTX 1070 = faster than GTX 980 Ti / Titan X
GTX 1080 = faster than 2x GTX 980 SLI

Consider your monitor size for retina display

Viewing distance <> Monitor size <> Screen resolution
(calculating with viewing distance of 3 feet)

1080p - Optimal at 19-24 inch monitor size
1440p - Optimal at 27-36 inch monitor size
UltraHD 4K - Optimal over 34 inch monitor size

Consider the Panel Type

TN Panel = Faster response rate. Use to be the best for gaming performance.

IPS Panel = Richer and brighter colours. Better viewing angles. Now catching up to TN Panel response time (1ms vs 4ms). You get the best of both worlds.

Consider refresh rate and response time

Ensure to take into calculation your refresh rate and how to fully support that. Consider using G-SYNC for very high refresh rate monitors, as not to cap it with V-SYNC (30, 60, or 120) or having it stutter/tear depending on your graphics card output rate.

I would personally suggest:

Acer Predator XB271HU or the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q

While the BenQ XL series is extremely nice for hardcore gaming. It's only focused on gaming (TN Panel - fast, but not true colour) and doesn't have G-SYNC (except in it's 1080p - XL2420G).

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Cask Jul 21, 2016 @ 3:31pm

Originally posted by Azza ☠:

I would personally suggest:

Acer Predator XB271HU or the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q

While the BenQ XL series is extremely nice for hardcore gaming. It's only focused on gaming (TN Panel - fast, but not true colour) and doesn't have G-SYNC (except in it's 1080p - XL2420G).

Good info... thanks for that.

I just noticed that those IPS monitors you linked have HDMI instead of DL DVI. I thought HDMI can only support up to 60hz?

Last edited by Cask; Jul 21, 2016 @ 3:32pm

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Azza ☠ Jul 21, 2016 @ 3:55pm

Originally posted by Cask:
Originally posted by Azza ☠:

I would personally suggest:

Acer Predator XB271HU or the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q

While the BenQ XL series is extremely nice for hardcore gaming. It's only focused on gaming (TN Panel - fast, but not true colour) and doesn't have G-SYNC (except in it's 1080p - XL2420G).

Good info... thanks for that.

I just noticed that those IPS monitors you linked have HDMI instead of DL DVI. I thought HDMI can only support up to 60hz?

It is best to use DisplayPort version 1.3 or better. This gives you the full 165Hz with G-SYNC.

Else use Duel Link DVI-D for the next best bandwidth at high refresh rates. This is however not supported with G-SYNC and therefore normally left out. It's a G-SYNC limitation, but DisplayPort can support higher bandwidths anyways.

HDMI doesn't really cut it, mainly just there for backwards compatiblility in standard devices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LTHr96NueA

(This is the Acer Predator XB270HU - version 2 or the next XB271HU, doesn't have screen bleed as bad as it was early on)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ImK3WMBm4

(Specs between the Acer Predator XB271HU and the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q are the same, Asus just has a better monitor menu - just check the price differences)

One additional thing to note with IPS Panel is screen bleeding. This will depend on your monitor's manufacting. Normally not notiable at all. However, display nothing but black pixels on the screen and check it's edges. The back light might leak a bit around the edges, causing the sides to glow a bit. If it's bad, just swap it for another one. Good computer stores will test this for you.

Last edited by Azza ☠; Jul 21, 2016 @ 4:04pm

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Rumpelcrutchskin Jul 21, 2016 @ 5:40pm

Originally posted by Cask:
I've just bought the 1080. Running with the 4790k. from what I can see my fps won't be so low. Just wondering whether the money will be well spent on a 2560 monitor....

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-Z35-35-inch-speakers/dp/B01A0FEBXQ/151-0942722-9166731

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Dodece Jul 21, 2016 @ 6:01pm

Given your obvious penchant for high end components. I see no reason as to why you ought to settle for less then the best. Basically if you want to see a massive improvement you have to go ultra on the resolution. That is if you are intent upon chasing pure graphical bliss. That is where you go for games to look their absolute best.

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shiel Jul 21, 2016 @ 6:06pm

Originally posted by Azza ☠:
Originally posted by Cask:

Good info... thanks for that.

I just noticed that those IPS monitors you linked have HDMI instead of DL DVI. I thought HDMI can only support up to 60hz?

It is best to use DisplayPort version 1.3 or better. This gives you the full 165Hz with G-SYNC.

Else use Duel Link DVI-D for the next best bandwidth at high refresh rates. This is however not supported with G-SYNC and therefore normally left out. It's a G-SYNC limitation, but DisplayPort can support higher bandwidths anyways.

HDMI doesn't really cut it, mainly just there for backwards compatiblility in standard devices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LTHr96NueA

(This is the Acer Predator XB270HU - version 2 or the next XB271HU, doesn't have screen bleed as bad as it was early on)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ImK3WMBm4

(Specs between the Acer Predator XB271HU and the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q are the same, Asus just has a better monitor menu - just check the price differences)

One additional thing to note with IPS Panel is screen bleeding. This will depend on your monitor's manufacting. Normally not notiable at all. However, display nothing but black pixels on the screen and check it's edges. The back light might leak a bit around the edges, causing the sides to glow a bit. If it's bad, just swap it for another one. Good computer stores will test this for you.

Another small difference is the overall stand quality. I've heard (not experienced myself so take it with a grain of salt), that the predator stand doesn't seem as sturdy as the ips Swift. It's mentioned in a couple comparisons and I know one person with the predator who said that was the only thing he noticed about my Swift vs his Predator.

At the end of the day, they are both amazing monitors and you can't go wrong with either one.

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𝕙.𝕓𝕒𝕣𝕜𝕒𝕤 Jul 21, 2016 @ 6:08pm

Originally posted by Dodece:
Given your obvious penchant for high end components. I see no reason as to why you ought to settle for less then the best. Basically if you want to see a massive improvement you have to go ultra on the resolution. That is if you are intent upon chasing pure graphical bliss. That is where you go for games to look their absolute best.

My thoughts exactly. For the most demanding games you could always lower the resolution to
1440p.

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Dodece Jul 21, 2016 @ 6:57pm

Originally posted by h.barkas:
Originally posted by Dodece:
Given your obvious penchant for high end components. I see no reason as to why you ought to settle for less then the best. Basically if you want to see a massive improvement you have to go ultra on the resolution. That is if you are intent upon chasing pure graphical bliss. That is where you go for games to look their absolute best.

My thoughts exactly. For the most demanding games you could always lower the resolution to
1440p.

While that is indeed an option that will be available to you. There is something you really need to know. Once you have become accustomed to ultra high definition. Anything less then that will in effect irritate you to some extent. This resolution will spoil you, and it will change your standards as far as what you consider tolerable.

That is really the nature of the beast. Just like becoming accustomed to higher frame rates. You will immediately notice low frame rates, and most find those generally annoying. When you don't know any better they seem fine, but once you know better they become an immediate eye sore. So you will most likely turn down most anything else before you even think about touching the resolution.

That said you will be able to run most games at sixty at that resolution. Those that you cannot without turning down some graphical settings probably wont run that much better if at all at the lower resolution, because at ultra high definition you do not need to use anti aliasing. With that high pixel density there are no jaggies to smooth out. However once you go down you have to turn on and turn up the anti aliasing to hit ultra.

It really isn't a dipping your toes in the water kind of situation. Once you take the plunge you will quickly discover that you have become committed. The difference really is that significant. Is it worth it then. Well I am hardly unbiased I play at the resolution myself, and I think the tradeoffs are well worth it, but graphics are very important to me as opposed to higher framerates. That may not be you.

I haven't gone down in resolution once since I started playing in ultra high definition. I cannot say as I have met anyone who has. So there is no reason to think that you would find it to be acceptable.

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Azza ☠ Jul 21, 2016 @ 7:19pm

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:
Originally posted by Cask:
I've just bought the 1080. Running with the 4790k. from what I can see my fps won't be so low. Just wondering whether the money will be well spent on a 2560 monitor....

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-Z35-35-inch-speakers/dp/B01A0FEBXQ/151-0942722-9166731

I would suggest the Acer Predator X34 for IPS Panel @ 1440p Ultra-wide (3440x1440) instead. If you have the GTX 1080 to juice it, that is.

It's a matter of taste. You have extremely high refresh rate (if you can reach it) with the Z35 vs better resolution/quality of the X34, but halved refresh rate of 100Hz (which is still a lot better than standard 60Hz).

79.4 PPI (Z35) vs 108.8 PPI (X34) - I personally don't go below 100 PPI (Pixels per inch). However, that's just the sharpness of my eye and keeping a rentina display (can't count between pixels).

Last edited by Azza ☠; Jul 21, 2016 @ 7:26pm

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Azza ☠ Jul 21, 2016 @ 7:21pm

Originally posted by shiel:
Originally posted by Azza ☠:

It is best to use DisplayPort version 1.3 or better. This gives you the full 165Hz with G-SYNC.

Else use Duel Link DVI-D for the next best bandwidth at high refresh rates. This is however not supported with G-SYNC and therefore normally left out. It's a G-SYNC limitation, but DisplayPort can support higher bandwidths anyways.

HDMI doesn't really cut it, mainly just there for backwards compatiblility in standard devices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LTHr96NueA

(This is the Acer Predator XB270HU - version 2 or the next XB271HU, doesn't have screen bleed as bad as it was early on)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ImK3WMBm4

(Specs between the Acer Predator XB271HU and the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q are the same, Asus just has a better monitor menu - just check the price differences)

One additional thing to note with IPS Panel is screen bleeding. This will depend on your monitor's manufacting. Normally not notiable at all. However, display nothing but black pixels on the screen and check it's edges. The back light might leak a bit around the edges, causing the sides to glow a bit. If it's bad, just swap it for another one. Good computer stores will test this for you.
Another small difference is the overall stand quality. I've heard (not experienced myself so take it with a grain of salt), that the predator stand doesn't seem as sturdy as the ips Swift. It's mentioned in a couple comparisons and I know one person with the predator who said that was the only thing he noticed about my Swift vs his Predator.

At the end of the day, they are both amazing monitors and you can't go wrong with either one.

I would personally perfer the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q, but as you said 'be very happy with either'. They are serious drool for hardcore gaming! Also it depends on the price difference, sometimes the PG279Q can have a much higher markup price tag.

Last edited by Azza ☠; Jul 21, 2016 @ 7:22pm

#12

GS18. Jul 21, 2016 @ 8:06pm

is good

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shiel Jul 21, 2016 @ 8:48pm

Originally posted by Azza ☠:
Originally posted by shiel:
Another small difference is the overall stand quality. I've heard (not experienced myself so take it with a grain of salt), that the predator stand doesn't seem as sturdy as the ips Swift. It's mentioned in a couple comparisons and I know one person with the predator who said that was the only thing he noticed about my Swift vs his Predator.

At the end of the day, they are both amazing monitors and you can't go wrong with either one.

I would personally perfer the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q, but as you said 'be very happy with either'. They are serious drool for hardcore gaming! Also it depends on the price difference, sometimes the PG279Q can have a much higher markup price tag.

For a while the 279 was over $200cdn more. When I bought it there was only an $80cdn difference. Worth it to get the monitor I really wanted :)

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Birdy.J Jul 21, 2016 @ 8:56pm

For some games @1080 a 980 is not enough to handle it

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