Windows 10: Leave it (it = defrag) to "Optimize" the SSD? Or not ?

[WeeHawky]

So I did the unthinkable and went to Windows 10.. But now, do I leave it to optimize my SSD? I noticed in Windows 7 it wouldn't defrag it (Which is what everyone is told NOT to do) , so what is this "optimization" that the new version of defrag is doing in Windows 10 ?

[_I_]

nothing is needed for a ssd
all sectors have the same access times

defragging helps on a spinning drive so all data for each files can be read without moving the head very far

[WeeHawky]

_I_ a écrit :

nothing is needed for a ssd
all sectors have the same access times

defragging helps on a spinning drive so all data for each files can be read without moving the head very far

It seems it's just doing "trim" . From what I've read online.

[fractal]

If it lists it as an SSD then it will TRIM it.
Nothing to fear. Leave it on.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Win7 can only do defragging of HDDs; Win8, 8.1, 10 support "optimize" in the Microsoft Disk Defrag when SSD is present; optimize, instead of doing a disk/file defragging, forces TRIM to initiate garbage cleanup.

So yes, in Win8 & 10; allow Disk Defrag to be left on auto is fine for all your drives.

If you want to trigger it manually from time to time; that is fine. As for auto-defrag to work, the system must be idle. So in many situations, it never gets done unless you do it yourself anyways.

Once a month should be fine.

For HDDs though; do it after installing large games, or copying large amounts of data to said drive. As that can help the overall read performance; like with a large game for example.

[WeeHawky]

I left it alone. I'm starting to wonder if Samssung Magician messed up my power profile somehow . I don't recall Windows 10 doing the other issue last night (with the screen dying after 2 mins)

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Samsung Magician doesn't change a thing unless you did it.

The Display shut-off @ Lock-Screen is normal; it happens in Win8, 8.1, 10 by default.

[WeeHawky]

Bad-Motha a écrit :

Samsung Magician doesn't change a thing unless you did it.

The Display shut-off @ Lock-Screen is normal; it happens in Win8, 8.1, 10 by default.

I set it to Preformance

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You mean OS Optimization?
Yea folks should just leave that alone. Make those changes manually or not at all.

[WeeHawky]

Bad-Motha a écrit :

You mean OS Optimization?
Yea folks should just leave that alone. Make those changes manually or not at all.

I might reinstall tonight then and just leave it alone after install. (And yes.)

However, isn't the screen saver supposed to come on instead of turning off the monitior?!

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Reinstall what?

Just go to Control Panel > Power Options and change it.

For Magician; use that to update SSD firmware and install RAPID Driver; that's all u need to do.

[WeeHawky]

Bad-Motha a écrit :

Reinstall what?

Just go to Control Panel > Power Options and change it

I tried, I even tried the registry hack

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yea first go to Power Options > Edit the High Performance profile; and in there is a "Restore default settings for this plan". Do that, log off, login again. Now do the Registry change. Then reboot when finished.

[WeeHawky]

Bad-Motha a écrit :

Yea first go to Power Options > Edit the High Performance profile; and in there is a Reset back to Defaults option. Do that, log off, login again. Now do the Registry change. Then reboot when finished.

I set it back to High Preformance (not Samsung's) , put the CPU to 25% min (so it's like AMD Cool N Quiet ) , and set it to not turn off hard disks. I'll see how it goes from there..

[Bad 💀 Motha]

All the CPU minimums should be @ 100%
In a Desktop this won't matter anyways since that will never change your CPU Clocks; period.
Only way that changes is if you change Intel SpeedStep/Turbo in the BIOS.

Changing CPU min/max in Power Profile only works when you have a Battery.

HDD Timeout only affects secondary drives. The primary will never go to sleep until you actually put the system in Sleep Mode. The HDD timeout I would just leave alone; since that is a time for when IDLE anyways. So the system has to basically be idle for 20 mins (or whatever that time is entered there) before secondary drives go into auto-sleep

[WeeHawky]

I finally got around to restarting. (after a download).

It seems if I lock it myself, it dies in 2 mins. If I let windows screen saver come on and it locks it.. it doesn't .

edit: here is the problem:

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/8267-power-options-add-console-lock-display-off-timeout.html