fruit bat 17/mai./2019 às 5:01
what to upgrade to get better fps?
So, as the title says I'm looking for some advice on what components should I upgrade to get better ingame fps.

cpu: i5 8400 3.8 ghz (turbo boost on)
gpu: asus gtx 1060 6gb
mobo: gigabyte b360m d3h
ram: 16gb - 4x 4gb 2400mhz hyperX (quad channel)
psu: corsair 650w golden certified
storage: 1x m2 pciexpress ssd kingston a1000 240gb and 1x samsung sata 3 ssd 500gb
monitor: aoc g24 gaming 144 hz 1920x1080
case: zalman something with 6 fans
temps: in heavy gaming all my temps DO NOT pass 65 degrees celsius

I play all types of games (mostly new ones) but I want more fps than I usually get now
Última edição por fruit bat; 17/mai./2019 às 5:28
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_I_ 17/mai./2019 às 5:21 
i5 8400 is kinda slow
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/126687/intel-core-i5-8400-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-00-ghz.html
Processor Base Frequency 2.80 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 4.00 GHz

a better cooler will let it turbo longer/higher before throttling

for gaming alone, its as good or better than ryzen 2700
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700/3939vs3957

8700/k would have a higher stock clock, and trubo
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/126684/intel-core-i7-8700k-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-70-ghz.html
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/126686/intel-core-i7-8700-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html
k
Processor Base Frequency 3.70 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 4.70 GHz
non k
Processor Base Frequency 3.20 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 4.60 GHz

locked 8700 beats the r7 2700 for non heavy threaded tasks
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700/3940vs3957
Última edição por _I_; 17/mai./2019 às 5:26
Cloudy 17/mai./2019 às 5:23 
You could just swap out the GPU for an RTX 2070, although you may want slightly better cooler so the CPU doesn't thermal throttle as much.
Última edição por Cloudy; 17/mai./2019 às 6:35
𝞟 17/mai./2019 às 5:25 
Escrito originalmente por _I_:
i5 8400 is kinda slow
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/126687/intel-core-i5-8400-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-00-ghz.html
Processor Base Frequency 2.80 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 4.00 GHz

a better cooler will let it turbo longer/higher before throttling

for gaming alone, its as good or better than ryzen 2700
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700/3939vs3957

8700/k would have a higher stock clock, and trubo
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/126684/intel-core-i7-8700k-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-70-ghz.html
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/126686/intel-core-i7-8700-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html
k
Processor Base Frequency 3.70 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 4.70 GHz
non k
Processor Base Frequency 3.20 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 4.60 GHz

you're either an idiot or a troll
his cpu is one of the best out there and in gaming its way better than ryzen 2700
https://youtu.be/reZM-oCLSOY
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700/3939vs3957

what he ONLY needs to upgrade is his GPU! the gpu gives a minor bottleneck
upgrade your gpu to a 1080ti or a 2060 and you'll have almost the double fps that u have now in ANY game
Última edição por 𝞟; 17/mai./2019 às 5:26
_I_ 17/mai./2019 às 5:27 
also depends on res
for 1080p the 1060 6g is fine for now
higher res and newer games will need a better gpu
Wichtelman 17/mai./2019 às 5:43 
"what he ONLY needs to upgrade is his GPU! the gpu gives a minor bottleneck
upgrade your gpu to a 1080ti or a 2060 and you'll have almost the double fps that u have now in ANY game"

this!

he already said 1080p 144hz and his cpu is an i5 6 core that is fine for any game for quite a while...
Nabster 17/mai./2019 às 5:47 
The people who said upgrade CPU are idiots or trolls. Your CPU is perfectly fine.

Your GPU is only good for 1080p 60 fps, if you want higher fps, consider 2070 or above
fruit bat 17/mai./2019 às 6:25 
Escrito originalmente por Nabster:
The people who said upgrade CPU are idiots or trolls. Your CPU is perfectly fine.

Your GPU is only good for 1080p 60 fps, if you want higher fps, consider 2070 or above

okay, ty. what about a 2060? is it really a big difference between 2060 and 2070? because the price difference is quite big
hawkeye 17/mai./2019 às 6:30 
The 1060 is a low-end card for today's games. The 8400 is quite good. The gpu to get is dependent on the games that you want to play. If you play lightweight ones then gpu requirements are less than ubisoft and other AAA titles.

If you do get a better gpu your temps might rise a bit, which could mean a new cpu cooler. But that's nothing to worry about as any cheap cooler with a bigger fan would work, and when and if it happens.

I am still using an 8 year old i7 with a 1080ti for 1080p 120hz gaming. My cpu is a lot worse than an i5-8400. So you can buy any gpu you like.

Here is an article about relative gpu performance.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-05-07-geforce-rtx-2060-benchmarks-7001

Buying a good gpu can save you money as it will last longer before an upgrade is needed.

You can also get a better cpu like an 8700k. But without a good gpu it's pointless.
Cloudy 17/mai./2019 às 6:36 
Escrito originalmente por porcodrillo:
Escrito originalmente por Nabster:
The people who said upgrade CPU are idiots or trolls. Your CPU is perfectly fine.

Your GPU is only good for 1080p 60 fps, if you want higher fps, consider 2070 or above

okay, ty. what about a 2060? is it really a big difference between 2060 and 2070? because the price difference is quite big
Yes, although it will cost more it will go much longer without having to upgrade again. Simply for having more VRAM is enough of a reason to go with an RTX 2070 instead. You'll make some money back selling your GTX 1060 6GB to help cover some of the cost of upgrading.
Última edição por Cloudy; 17/mai./2019 às 6:37
hawkeye 17/mai./2019 às 6:37 
Escrito originalmente por 123:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3IxsXoVimU

These are 1440p, he has a 1080p monitor. !080p results can be a lot different.
_I_ 17/mai./2019 às 7:15 
higher hz monitor needs faster cpu and gpu for higher fps

if his gpu is at 100% its gpu bottlenecked
Wichtelman 17/mai./2019 às 7:32 
"These are 1440p, he has a 1080p monitor. !080p results can be a lot different."

whats your point? i showed him the difference and specially on 1080p it is more cpu intensive than gpu... maybe post a 1080p vs of those cards instead of that statement...
Última edição por Wichtelman; 17/mai./2019 às 7:34
Wichtelman 17/mai./2019 às 11:12 
"if his gpu is at 100% its gpu bottlenecked"

wrong... 100% = it is fully used and that can not be compared to cpu at 100%...



Autumn_ 17/mai./2019 às 11:30 
Escrito originalmente por 123:
"if his gpu is at 100% its gpu bottlenecked"

wrong... 100% = it is fully used and that can not be compared to cpu at 100%...
100% usage is literally a bottleneck, regardless of CPU, GPU, RAM, or even HDD/SDD.
You preferably want it on the GPU, because then you can get the most performance you can.

If you have 100% on the GPU, it's a non-issue.
If you have 100% on the CPU (and gives lower performance than you're happy with), then you've got an issue.

And, just because a part is being fully used doesn't mean you're going to get bad performance. Sometimes you can be PERFECTLY fine with 100% usage. It's just when the performance of other parts is hindered is where your issue is.
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