How AMD GPUs performs on non mainstream games and general PC usage these days?

[Napoleonic S]

I'm seriously considering going back to Radeon for my next GPU upgrade, my last Radeon GPU was ATI Radeon HD4850, so that was like a decade ago.

If the RX 7900 series can match RTX 4080 in ray tracing then I have little justification to pay more for Nvidia, add that AMD is still using the traditional cable and bringing in Display Port 2.1 whole Nvidia don't...

But my anxiety remains, how do AMD GPUs fare with indie-AA games and general PC usage these days? Are they hassle free? Or do they have performance issues, perhaps encountering bugs here and there? Or as they as smooth as Nvidia?

[xSOSxHawkens]

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AMD's RT is basically 1 gen behind. Currently the 6900xt and 6950xt are both above RTX2080ti/RTX Titan class, and at or above 3070/70ti class in RT. And this is in Gaming Loads.

In benchmarks the 6900xt+ tend to sit a bit closer to the 3080 and often above the 3070ti.

I fully expect the next gen to be equal to or better than 3090ti for the 7900xtx.

Are they as fast at RT as NV? No. But is their RT unbearably slow? No. Their first time out of the gate in RT was across the board faster than NV's first, and I suspect similar from the V2 on RT. It will still be behind NV's V3, but it will likely be as fast as or faster than NV's current tech (RTX3k) for RT loading.

Meanwhile, in non-RT they are pretty darn potent, often equaling or besting their specific NV counters. And FSR2 is good enough to go toe to toe in many quality comparisons with DLSS, with each having their specific trade off's in quality for their frame boosts.

[Napoleonic S]

When will the RX 7900 series reviews comes out?

[Tiberius]

引用自 Napoleonic S：

引用自 Tiberius：

Amd gpu tend to have amazing raster performance, which is something you need more for indie games (rather than rt performance)

That's a good point, although you maybe surprised to know that done indie games use ray tracing now, a tiny minority of course but wouldn't want to miss them if they're good games.

Very very very tiny minority of indie games. The only indie/aa game that i knw use ray tracing is ghostrunner

[Napoleonic S]

引用自 Tiberius：

引用自 Napoleonic S：

That's a good point, although you maybe surprised to know that done indie games use ray tracing now, a tiny minority of course but wouldn't want to miss them if they're good games.

Very very very tiny minority of indie games. The only indie/aa game that i knw use ray tracing is ghostrunner

Deliver us Moon
Trail Out
Earth Analog
Bright Memory Infinite

You can expect more of them in coming years though... Especially from the AA games...

[SinCanDory]

引用自 Napoleonic S：

When will the RX 7900 series reviews comes out?

When the cards are released. First two weeks of December

[Decathect]

I love my rx 6800 op, no complaints. No issues.

[Napoleonic S]

Oh anyway I forgot to ask, which vendors are the recommended ones for and cards nowdays? Sapphire? Are ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte still good for AMD cards!

[SinCanDory]

引用自 Napoleonic S：

Oh anyway I forgot to ask, which vendors are the recommended ones for and cards nowdays? Sapphire? Are ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte still good for AMD cards!

Sapphire, Powercolor and XFX. Sapphire is like EVGA of AMD cards

[Decathect]

引用自 Napoleonic S：

Oh anyway I forgot to ask, which vendors are the recommended ones for and cards nowdays? Sapphire? Are ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte still good for AMD cards!

I'm using AMD's reference 6800, which is probably the least OCable and has the worst cooling. Still have no issues, and I love the build quality of the card/looks so thats why I went with it.

[UserNotFound]

Yes, for me, it has to be Sapphire, PowerColor or XFX. I have a PowerColor Vega64 Red Devil and a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6900 XT. You can be sure the RX 7900 XTX I'd be getting when I get back would be from Sapphire, PowerColor and XFX, only exclusive AMD AIBs.

I know of some who'd dissed AMD exclusive AIBs in favor of the big three, aka MSI, Gigabyte, and Asus. They say it's low quality and badly made compared to the big three. Ofc, I'd vehemently disagree with their rather....ill thought-out opinion.

AMD has made great strides with the design of their reference models with the RDNA2, the design of the shroud and cooler on the RX 7900 XT/XTX look good as well.

[Decathect]

引用自 UserNotFound：

Yes, for me, it has to be Sapphire, PowerColor or XFX. I have a PowerColor Vega64 Red Devil and a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6900 XT. You can be sure the RX 7900 XTX I'd be getting when I get back would be from Sapphire, PowerColor and XFX, only exclusive AMD AIBs.

I know of some who'd dissed AMD exclusive AIBs in favor of the big three, aka MSI, Gigabyte, and Asus. They say it's low quality and badly made compared to the big three. Ofc, I'd vehemently disagree with their rather....ill thought-out opinion.

AMD has made great strides with the design of their reference models with the RDNA2, the design of the shroud and cooler on the RX 7900 XT/XTX look good as well.

I had a Red Devil 5700xt and it was a really great card, build quality was awesome.

[ZAP]

ASRock put out a great card last time, the OC formula. Should be another Sapphire Toxic this time and possibly the return of a legend... Where Nvidia now only has like 500 HOF cards per gen and nothing else.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

引用自 TeamGunstar：

I love my rx 6800 op, no complaints. No issues.

I actually have an eye on that one. What a good value! 16g VRAM!

How are the drivers?

[xSOSxHawkens]

引用自 Hardʬare Hero：

引用自 TeamGunstar：

I love my rx 6800 op, no complaints. No issues.

I actually have an eye on that one. What a good value! 16g VRAM!

How are the drivers?

Drivers are fine. Stability issues are often overblown on AMD (especially now days) and are often under-stated but just as common on NV platform. Features wise, AMD drivers and software suite have been miles ahead of NV's for years. For starters no third party OC utilities needed, not even for voltage or fan curves. Game recording works well, streaming is quite good (though still a bit behind NV in that regard, need to use higher bitrate for same quality, but its getting close). Menus are decently organized. Though only decently, could be better at times. Overall much better than the {Drivers + GFE + Afterburner + Riva Tuner or other options} required for a comparable NV setup simply to match software ability.

As for the card, the 6800 is awesome. Though if you can get one at a good price the XT is even more awesome. The base 6800 though is a wonderful card. At stock clocks they are perfect for 1440p gaming, with a good OC they can be stand in cards for 4K/60 even at decent enough settings. I am in the process of having to RMA mine sadly, so the GF is rocking our Vega 64 for the time being, but while it lasted it was a great thing. I am hopeful that the replacement is just as good.

If you plan to go for 4K or higher than 144hz 1440p I would suggest looking at the XT cards, either the 6800 or 6900. The 6900xt can often be found at as low as 699 (maybe even better with black friday and such). And its a card that is more in the relm of the 3090 in performance terms for anything nonRT, and more like a 3070/70ti in RT. Meanwhile, a well OC'd and tweaked 6800xt is often a match for stock clocked 6900xt cards. I went to the 6900xt from the 6800-non xt for my 4K and was pleased. That said I am def looking at the 7900 line with possible intentions to get one, they are exciting cards!

[Decathect]

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

引用自 Hardʬare Hero：

I actually have an eye on that one. What a good value! 16g VRAM!

How are the drivers?

Drivers are fine. Stability issues are often overblown on AMD (especially now days) and are often under-stated but just as common on NV platform. Features wise, AMD drivers and software suite have been miles ahead of NV's for years. For starters no third party OC utilities needed, not even for voltage or fan curves. Game recording works well, streaming is quite good (though still a bit behind NV in that regard, need to use higher bitrate for same quality, but its getting close). Menus are decently organized. Though only decently, could be better at times. Overall much better than the {Drivers + GFE + Afterburner + Riva Tuner or other options} required for a comparable NV setup simply to match software ability.

As for the card, the 6800 is awesome. Though if you can get one at a good price the XT is even more awesome. The base 6800 though is a wonderful card. At stock clocks they are perfect for 1440p gaming, with a good OC they can be stand in cards for 4K/60 even at decent enough settings. I am in the process of having to RMA mine sadly, so the GF is rocking our Vega 64 for the time being, but while it lasted it was a great thing. I am hopeful that the replacement is just as good.

If you plan to go for 4K or higher than 144hz 1440p I would suggest looking at the XT cards, either the 6800 or 6900. The 6900xt can often be found at as low as 699 (maybe even better with black friday and such). And its a card that is more in the relm of the 3090 in performance terms for anything nonRT, and more like a 3070/70ti in RT. Meanwhile, a well OC'd and tweaked 6800xt is often a match for stock clocked 6900xt cards. I went to the 6900xt from the 6800-non xt for my 4K and was pleased. That said I am def looking at the 7900 line with possible intentions to get one, they are exciting cards!

Yeah with the 6800 its like 1440p Ultra settings @ 90+fps in most my library, or 4k High settings @ 60+fps in most my library.

I had a 1440p 165hz 32" monitor...then gave that to my son and was on a 50" 4k TV for a bit...thought I should pick up another 1440p 165hz 32" monitor so I did...turned out it was a waste of money because I just wanted to go back to the 4k 50" as playing something like Cyberpunk 2077 4k high settings looks miles better than 1440p ultra.

For me anyways.

I'm skipping this next gen and going for a new build next year, but will stick with AMD.