Can you play smooth 30 fps (like console) on PC?

[AlexVezok]

Well, some games aren´t optimized at all or maybe the graphics card is starting to get old. Sometimes looks like a good idea to cap fps to 30 in order to play like console. However, whenever i cap it to 30 fps, it feels very bad, not like 30 fps on console, even on the same monitor.

So, is there any way to cap PC games at 30 and feel it smooth? I tried adaptative vsync, rivatuner (fps cap, scanline sync x/2, etc), nvidia profile inspector, nvidia control panel and nothing.

[Snow]

Origineel geplaatst door Komarimaru:

Origineel geplaatst door Snow:

I still play Diablo II, and I'm absolutely sure animations look smooth. It's not about the amount of frames, but about the specific frames they've chosen as key frames. 25 FPS is absolutely enough to make stuff look smooth. I'm not saying that 60 FPS isn't better, because obviously it is.

I think you're just used to it, as I am as well. It's also why I've a CRT TV that's heavier then me for my retro rigs, just over all smoother quality and not as hard on the eyes.

Some even got headaches and sick watching Into the Spiderverse, due to how they animated Miles from the start of the movie, using his key frames to set his experience, eventually being smooth at the end of the movie.

I've seen cuts with Miles. It looks awful. There are countless examples of old cartoons and anime looking fine while only being 8 or 12 FPS. Spiderverse, however, doesn't look anything like that, it instead look like a game at low FPS. I guess the key frames they selected were the wrong ones.

[Seamus]

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Nope. I use word correctly.

No, you really didn't.

Are you say low speed and slow speed are different thing?

They are when you are talking about animations.

Please. I have no issue reading,

Your own post history says otherwise.

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

I reading understand,

it is you who have issue. Because you can't accept it is the way I write a post. I will not be forced to meeting your own standards

The way you write posts is both incorrect and horribly written.

You have been wrong about literally everything in the thread.

[Jamebonds1]

Origineel geplaatst door Seamus:

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Nope. I use word correctly.

No, you really didn't.

Are you say low speed and slow speed are different thing?

They are when you are talking about animations.

Please. I have no issue reading,

Your own post history says otherwise.

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

I reading understand,

it is you who have issue. Because you can't accept it is the way I write a post. I will not be forced to meeting your own standards

The way you write posts is both incorrect and horribly written.

You have been wrong about literally everything in the thread.

Why can't you just accept this is the way I write? Unless you wanna to pay for my English class?

Bottom line, if you don't like me then go find another computer forum.

[Snow]

Origineel geplaatst door Seamus:

Origineel geplaatst door Snow:

I still play Diablo II, and I'm absolutely sure animations look smooth. It's not about the amount of frames, but about the specific frames they've chosen as key frames. 25 FPS is absolutely enough to make stuff look smooth. I'm not saying that 60 FPS isn't better, because obviously it is.

It may look smooth TO YOU, as things seem to inexplicably look smooth to james, but that doesn't make it an objective fact.

25fps is not smooth. It has never been smooth.

The 35 doom ran at wasn't either. Particularly after wolfenstein ran at 70.

It's not just about motion. It's about the inputs, the gameplay, everything. Low framerate caps drag ALL of that down.

Which is why komari brought up online lobbies in diablo 2. They help with the godawful single player input issues due to the 25fps cap in single player.

We're discussing human perception here. You can't say 'objective' at any point.

25 FPS in Diablo II looks smooth enough to me.

Input latency doesn't solely depend on the framerate. You can have a 30 FPS game with way lower input latency than a 60 FPS one.

[Komarimaru]

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Origineel geplaatst door Seamus:

No, you really didn't.

They are when you are talking about animations.

Your own post history says otherwise.


The way you write posts is both incorrect and horribly written.

You have been wrong about literally everything in the thread.

Why can't you just accept this is the way I write? Unless you wanna to pay for my English class?

Bottom line, if you don't like me then go find another computer forum.

I mean, I'm an immigrant to america and know english fairly well to make a valid point in forums. I screw up Then and Than a lot still, and struggled for years with Your, You're and Their, There and They're.

But last I checked, you don't need English Classes to learn it, you do live in America in your profile unless that's a lie too, it's free.

[Jamebonds1]

Origineel geplaatst door Komarimaru:

I mean, I'm an immigrant to america and know english fairly well to make a valid point in forums. I screw up Then and Than a lot still, and struggled for years with Your, You're and Their, There and They're.

But last I checked, you don't need English Classes to learn it, you do live in America in your profile unless that's a lie too, it's free.

Then it is none of your business and stop force me to use your way. I don't care who is immigrants, because I have nothing against anything.

[Seamus]

Origineel geplaatst door Snow:

We're discussing human perception here. You can't say 'objective' at any point.

25 FPS in Diablo II looks smooth enough to me.

Good for you.

It's still not smooth.

Input latency doesn't solely depend on the framerate. You can have a 30 FPS game with way lower input latency than a 60 FPS one.

Latency and polling are two different things. The latency can be lower because it's not polled as often due to the lower frame rate. Which is, again, why online mode for diablo 2 was brought up.

[Komarimaru]

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Origineel geplaatst door Komarimaru:

I mean, I'm an immigrant to america and know english fairly well to make a valid point in forums. I screw up Then and Than a lot still, and struggled for years with Your, You're and Their, There and They're.

But last I checked, you don't need English Classes to learn it, you do live in America in your profile unless that's a lie too, it's free.

Then it is none of your business and stop force me to use your way. I don't care who is immigrants, because I have nothing against anything.

What? I'm just saying it's free. No need to pay. There's thousands of free services if you're struggling with writing and reading English if you live where you say you do, and thousands more free online.

[Seamus]

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Why can't you just accept this is the way I write? Unless you wanna to pay for my English class?

Bottom line, if you don't like me then go find another computer forum.

Neat. Don't care.

You've still been wrong about everything in spite of insisting you're not.

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Then it is none of your business and stop force me to use your way. I don't care who is immigrants, because I have nothing against anything.

You apparently have something against being correct.

[Jamebonds1]

Origineel geplaatst door Komarimaru:

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Then it is none of your business and stop force me to use your way. I don't care who is immigrants, because I have nothing against anything.

What? I'm just saying it's free. No need to pay. There's thousands of free services if you're struggling with writing and reading English if you live where you say you do, and thousands more free online.

I try free class and it didn't help.

Origineel geplaatst door Seamus:

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Why can't you just accept this is the way I write? Unless you wanna to pay for my English class?

Bottom line, if you don't like me then go find another computer forum.

Neat. Don't care.

You've still been wrong about everything in spite of insisting you're not.

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Then it is none of your business and stop force me to use your way. I don't care who is immigrants, because I have nothing against anything.

You apparently have something against being correct.

So? Steam said everyone is welcome. Why must I follow your standards?

[Seamus]

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

So? Steam said everyone is welcome. Why must I follow your standards?

At least you're admitting you're wrong now.

That's a step in the right direction.

[Jamebonds1]

Origineel geplaatst door Seamus:

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

So? Steam said everyone is welcome. Why must I follow your standards?

At least you're admitting you're wrong now.

That's a step in the right direction.

Huh? I never admitting anything. I will not be force to use low motion instead of slow motion. Because I don't need your help.

[Seamus]

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Huh? I never admitting anything. I will not be force to use low motion instead of slow motion.

And you'll continue to be wrong. Something you've done nothing but in this thread.

Well, that and lie. And try to spread misinformation.

[Komarimaru]

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Origineel geplaatst door Komarimaru:

What? I'm just saying it's free. No need to pay. There's thousands of free services if you're struggling with writing and reading English if you live where you say you do, and thousands more free online.

I try free class and it didn't help.

Origineel geplaatst door Seamus:

Neat. Don't care.

You've still been wrong about everything in spite of insisting you're not.


You apparently have something against being correct.

So? Steam said everyone is welcome. Why must I follow your standards?

Well, I'd suggest you try again, honestly. This is probably why nearly everyone dislikes all your posts, since you're unable to communicate clearly what your thoughts are.

And while Steam welcomes all, they do expect you to follow the rules. Don't instigate fights, don't spam, don't spread misinformation, don't derail threads etc etc. All things you do do, currently because you don't understand what's being said, then you get frustrated and tell people to leave, when you are in the wrong, which is really bad.

For example, you're confusing slow motion with software that has minimal rendering motion, and claiming it looks fine, which it does. But it's not slow motion.

30 FPS is, 30 FPS. The moment there's a lot rendering on the screen, you'll get frame jitter and stuttering visually and blur as things are unable to be rendered properly.

[Jamebonds1]

Origineel geplaatst door Komarimaru:

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

I try free class and it didn't help.





So? Steam said everyone is welcome. Why must I follow your standards?

Well, I'd suggest you try again, honestly. This is probably why nearly everyone dislikes all your posts, since you're unable to communicate clearly what your thoughts are.

And while Steam welcomes all, they do expect you to follow the rules. Don't instigate fights, don't spam, don't spread misinformation, don't derail threads etc etc. All things you do do, currently because you don't understand what's being said, then you get frustrated and tell people to leave, when you are in the wrong, which is really bad.

For example, you're confusing slow motion with software that has minimal rendering motion, and claiming it looks fine, which it does. But it's not slow motion.

30 FPS is, 30 FPS. The moment there's a lot rendering on the screen, you'll get frame jitter and stuttering visually and blur as things are unable to be rendered properly.

Nope. I use slow motion in correct way, unless mods say it is not. And I will continue use it until you stop try to help me.

Origineel geplaatst door Seamus:

Origineel geplaatst door Jamebonds1:

Huh? I never admitting anything. I will not be force to use low motion instead of slow motion.

And you'll continue to be wrong. Something you've done nothing but in this thread.

Well, that and lie. And try to spread misinformation.

I'm not change my way for you. You have no English teacher certification.