TickleMeRifle 27 sierpnia 2014 o 23:27
34 inch ultrawide 21:9 is the future...not 4k, not gsync, not 144hz...
Ive owned over a dozen monitors in the last 10 yrs ...everything from high refresh rate, TN, IPS, 4k, gsync, etc etc you name it!. Recently i purchased a 34 inch LG ultrawide IPS.

I can tell you right now it is HANDS DOWN the best general purpose and gaming monitor ive used EVER!

Let's see:

Colours = exceptional! it is after all an IPS
Viewing angles = not as good as some of my Dell IPS screens but a world above all TNs
Response Time = 5ms (not as good as some TNs but i can tell you right now I did not notice any difference visually between 1ms vs 5ms)
Refresh Rate=60hz...sure some of you might be rolling your eyes saying 'boo its not 144hz' but seriously in games like farcry 3 and crysis 3 you're never gonna reach 144fps on ultra so why bother? Also i own 3 cards in SLI and running anything at 144fps+ will boil over and throttle my cards anyhow! Its pointless for a person like myself.

The extra width also made gaming incredibly immersive...i could actually see much much more and my performance in FPS online actualy increased due to seeing blind spots more effectively. Out of the 200+ games i own i found only about 12 werent compatible with 21:9.....and guess what? The third party program 'Flawelss Widescreen' fixed about 6 of those 12 incompatible games! So incompatibility wasnt really a major issue at all!

The monitor comes in two resolutions: 3440X1440 or 2560 x 1080.

Ive used 3440 x 1440 and even other 4k monitors and both run with MAJOR STUTTERS in game regardless of your GPU setup (I own x3 780 Ti so i know what im talking about). 2560 x 1080 runs at only a loss of 10fps compared with its 1080p counterpart! This isnt a big hit at all! Not only that 2560 x 1080 desktop scaling is much easier compared to higher resolutions!

In my personal opinion It even beat the latest 27 inch Asus ROG Swift G-sync monitor! (which i also own). The Asus' viewing angles were woeful! G-sync did not live up to its hype it actually slowed and stuttered A LOT of my games which was contrary to what nvidia had demo'd in online vids. dont get a gsync! its really a bunch of false advertising!

So there you go, from a guy who owns just about every great monitor money can buy i have no idea why people havent jumped on this LG beast of a monitor...it's effective with just about everything from everyday use to gaming. has great colours and doesnt hit your framerate hard like other resolutions. I understand at $1k its quite costly but i would gladly sell my other 11 monitors just to keep this one.

EDIT: Linus did a review of this monitor and he loved it too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnrxNfxRK_4


Ostatnio edytowany przez: TickleMeRifle; 27 sierpnia 2014 o 23:53
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Astraea Kisaragi 27 sierpnia 2014 o 23:38 
Utterly pointless as masses cannot afford it anyways. They said blu-ray is future is well, yet thanks to the high prices it never really catched on computer and will be skipped eventually with 90% of players never owning a BD drive.

I smell that the same will happen here.
zombie cat 27 sierpnia 2014 o 23:39 
if you can post a link to this monitor, that would be helpful.
TickleMeRifle 27 sierpnia 2014 o 23:41 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Zombie Cat PC Master Race:
if you can post a link to this monitor, that would be helpful.

here are the two versions:
http://www.lg.com/au/it-monitors/lg-34UM95
http://www.lg.com/au/it-monitors/lg-34UM65


Meh.

What I want is 21:9, IPS and GPU sync.

Preferably not G-sync and Nvidia support of it anyway. Because the G-sync monitors are so expensive.
TickleMeRifle 13 października 2014 o 19:04 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Aliquis:
Meh.

What I want is 21:9, IPS and GPU sync.

Preferably not G-sync and Nvidia support of it anyway. Because the G-sync monitors are so expensive.

errr....my monitor is 21:9 and IPS too. as for GPU sync they are developing a third party external unit/cable to enable it in the future instead of inbuilt tech like gsync. so technically speaking my monitor qualifies for all those features you just mentioned.

Also on another note, i have tried gsync before and i can tell you it is VASTLY OVERRATED. Dont get me wrong i was just as excited about gsync as much as anyone when i first heard about it and watched demos of it. But the fact is, in reality, a lot of games i tried gsync with were not even compatible with it! What's the point in new tech if 30% of your games dont run with it or run worse with it on?

eg Borderlands 2 runs great with gsync on....but in Battlefield 4 it stuttered all over the place...worse than if it was turned off.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: TickleMeRifle; 13 października 2014 o 19:09
Mozendo 13 października 2014 o 19:16 
Too bad 3440 x 1440 is useless unless you have multi high end GPUs.
TickleMeRifle 13 października 2014 o 19:18 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Mozendo:
Too bad 3440 x 1440 is useless unless you have multi high end GPUs.

thats why the monitor comes in two resolutions: 3440 x 1440 and 2560 x 1080. i decided to buy the latter and @ only 10% frame rate hit compared to 1080p its a winner! i avoided the 3440 x 1440 res because of its big hit on fps....
Ostatnio edytowany przez: TickleMeRifle; 13 października 2014 o 19:21
Where can I read about that external device? I wonder how that's supposed to work.
TickleMeRifle 14 października 2014 o 4:39 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Aliquis:
Where can I read about that external device? I wonder how that's supposed to work.

i apologize i may have been confused and provided wrong infro before. displayport 1.2a and 1.3 have native support for variable refresh rates via AMD's freesync tech....

i thought this tech would work on any GPU regardless of nvidia or AMD but it appears it only works for select AMD cards. so technically there can be no sync of any type with this monitor as my monitor only has 1.2 and not 1.2a and im using nvidia cards.

But yeah like i said before all this freesync and gsync techs are highly overrated man. Demo it instore or buy a cheap gysnc monitor , try it and return it....you'll realise its not all that its cracked up to be...the results are fairly inconsistent to say the least.

The most misleading part is nvidia's pendulum demo that nvidia have released on their website. I downloaded the official pendulum test and gsync worked perfectly on my asus gsync monitor! But as soon as i launched some games with all the correct settings and maxed it out so that it would run between 40-50 fps (which is where gsync should shine) i saw very variable results. some games would stutter and freeze like mad with the gynsc settings enabled whilsts others benefited from smoother stutter free gameplay. it was inconsistent enough for me to say it wasn't 'revolutionary' or 'reliable' enough tech

I think nvidia have misled A LOT of people....

Ostatnio edytowany przez: TickleMeRifle; 14 października 2014 o 4:47
Adaptive-Sync is part of the VESA standard and support for it is included in DisplayPort 1.2a and up.

It could be supported by everyone who wanted too. Nvidia state 1.2a support for their graphics cards but I don't know whatever it's a hardware thing or a software thing and whatever they could easily offer it if they wanted to. It seem like they want to be asses about it and only support G-sync for now because they have invested in that, have profits or partners invested into their hardware solutions and possibly want profits from products using it and also I guess possibly divide the market and try to delay a solution for AMD cards and make people think twice before going that route so they get the biggest benefit themselves.

Or something such.

If Adaptive-Sync got widely implemented which would be easier with Nvidia standing behind it but I guess may happen anyway I assume Nvidia will start using it. Maybe they wouldn't want to enable it on their old cards but rather be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it and just do it for a new card to sell yet another card to people though. Who knows?

Nvidia also confuse people by having something called "Adaptive V-sync" which sounds very similar and which they support on older cards but which isn't Adaptive-Sync and doesn't give the same result. It's another thing.

I don't know how much I'd notice various frame rates but I'd say I've got a good idea for what it is and do and I totally much rather have images shown as soon as rendered rather than at a steady phase. Lower lag and an image output in time with the game state changes is what interest me the most.

I can't talk for the experience or support since I haven't used it :)

What I dislike in the case of Nvidia is 1) The price of G-sync products and 2) They not willing to support the standard which could had limited 1.

Also let's face it. If I where to buy a $1000+ monitor I would appreciate if it was fully supported NO MATTER WHAT VIDEO CARD I GOT!

Because I'll always want to be able to pick the option I think is better and not be locked into some choices.
Short_Lived 9 listopada 2014 o 9:21 
I have been hesitating between the widescreen LG @21:9 and this Acer XB280HK bprz Black 28" 1ms 4K Widescreen. I own two titans.
Currently I own 3 x Asus 27" 144 hz, but only play on one screen. I find that with three screens (Albeit beautiful) the field of view is way too much for two eyes to assimilate. I mostly play Far Cry 3 and will play FC4.
I find Ticklemerifle's observations pretty accurate, and thank god I have not pulled the trigger on the 3440X1440 lg 34UM95-P yet, because I fear dual titans may not be enough for smooth gameplay.
I do know the acer supports Gsync, which I know very little about. I have ruled out all other 4k screens because of mixed reviews. I wonder if dual titans could run 2 x 2560 x 1080 lg's??
Or would i use only one 34" and place 2 x 27" on either side for extra browsing and work space.
Money is not an object thank god, and yet, It's so incredibly hard to find a good monitor.
We are very spoiled here, we have a SONY xbr900A 4k tv, which delivers a stunning PQ and color. My asus 27" TN panels, have horrible colors compared to the TV.
So i'm trying to find a monitor with stunning color rendition that I can also play games on.
Andrius227 9 listopada 2014 o 10:14 
Such huge screens are pointless in my opinion... Unless you only watch movies on it, but thats what TV's are for... But things like refresh rate and response time are more important for gaming.
As there currently is no IPS panels which are made to support higher refresh rates (AFAIK) or with g-sync you'll be doomed.

Guess the closest I know of is the Korean monitors with no scalers which people force a higher refresh rate on and possibly the Samsung AMOLEDs which are used in the Oculus Rift which is supposed to have a higher refresh rate than 60 Hz at least.

The 34" LG have nice aspect ratio and likely will have good colors too. But in speed it's not a gaming monitor. But it has a nice aspect ratio and colors.

For game / competitive performance rather than visual splendor I assume the 27" G-synced one is the better choice.

Speed may not be everything and maybe for some less competitive gaming you'd prefer the 34" 21:9 or say having three 40" TVs (feel free to skip 4K =P) at some distance (for driving game or whatever.) Rift is likely less than a year away too.

If money is no problem I kinda wonder if one 34" 21:9 for desktop, nice looking gaming, video clips and one 27" G-sync equipped one for mostly FPS gaming if more competitive can't be the way to go?

Or something?

Personally I would be pretty ok with GPU-synced 60 Hz low input-lag not horrible response time (flickering?) IPS-panel too. But since the Korean ones can be "overclocked" I assume it may not be impossible to make an IPS panel which actually is supposed to run at 75 or 90 Hz?
Carlsberg 9 listopada 2014 o 13:24 
With the inclusion of adaptive sync in the displayport standard g-sync will not survive long enough to become a standard and so IMO is not worth the investment for future systems.


I corrected my error, i actually said adaptive v-sync by mistake.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Carlsberg; 9 listopada 2014 o 15:30
Adaptive V-sync isn't what you think it is.

Adaptive V-sync is an Nvidia technology which disables V-sync at frame rates lower than that of the monitor to remove stuttering but accept tearing. At frame rates higher than that of the monitor V-sync is enabled and you don't won't get any tearing but will be locked at 60 FPS.

The problem for the VESA standard Adaptive-Sync at the moment is that Nvidia says they don't intend to support it but rather focus on their G-sync. (I think the claim included supporting the scalar manufacturers which I assume may be doing chips to support G-sync and also that Nvidia may make some money on the technology and if not at least they know they will sell the graphics cards to support those monitors (but they wouldn't sell them for the monitors which used Adaptive-Sync instead so I assume they have to make money on G-sync itself to make it worth it.)

If Nvidia supported Adaptive-Sync and it was as good or close enough and even more so if it was cheaper I could see how that would become the winner and G-sync would become irrelevant. Which Nvidia may not want to happen because it helps AMD sell graphics cards and Nvidia may earn money on G-sync (or just hype because it's their technology.)

But since Nvidia say no that mean that G-sync both have an advantage in being out now and being used more and also that the larger of the two (then again Intel is large too) will only use G-sync which will hurt the market for an will to include Adaptive-Sync support in monitors.

As such they will delay uptake of Adaptive-Sync and AMD will be less competitive because there will be fewer monitors to choose from.

Imho it's a nasty tactic which I dislike because I won't benefit from it and would much rather buy an expensive monitor which used a standard rather than Nvidia exclusive technology. It's imho one reason to pick an AMD card instead too which Nvidia should view as bad.

Nvidia have adaptive V-sync on lots of older cards (~GTX 650 and up, which is only "intelligent" picking between screen tearing or V-sync depending on what is viewed as most beneficial for the gamer.)
Nvidia as said so far won't have VESA Adaptive-Sync support on their cards.

The new GTX 970 and 980 cards also only list DisplayPort 1.2 not 1.2a or better.
Adaptive-Sync is an optional part of DisplayPort 1.2a and op.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism; 9 listopada 2014 o 14:44
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