CUSTOM PC BUILD

[JeromeNguyenJr]

Does anyone have a custom Pc build I can use. It must have parts that are in Australia and the parts must be bought from the shops not online. Plus, the part shops must be in Melbourne and my budget is around $400. Lastly do not include case price since my cousin has a spare case.

[UberFiend]

http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

http://www.staticice.com.au/

[_I_]

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

[Rove]

I think you should be looking at building a system with a AMD A10 (or possibly A8) APU, 8GB DDR3-2133 (or 1866), 1TB HDD, A75, A78, A85X or A88X chipset motherboard with FM2+ (not FM2) socket, 500w 80 Plus (regular) to Platinum power supply.

I don't know where you will find best prices on parts. You are asking on internet for stuff NOT online. So go to the store and ask them there instead?

Here is a example of stuff I can find online which *may or may not* be available in stores in your area:

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/3RqP8d

Total: $403.00

Note that it does NOT include Windows operating system so you need to have a copy already or use Linux or another free OS. Steam OS will be coming out soon and is a form of Linux. It also doesn't have a DVD drive or any other non-essential or peripheral parts.

Edit:
All the parts in this build are available (some at a few $ more) from CPL Online which has a physical shop in Melbourne. You will have to check that they are available in store.

[_I_]

save up more than $400aud for a gaming pc, or buy a console

[_I_]

he was asking where to get parts

[skulz87]

Dude, if youre going to buy pc to play games like Gmod and Counter-Strike DO NOT GET THE PC STATED ABOVE, because youll get terrible performance youll struggle with horrible lags because it will run onboard graphics card.

Your budget is $400, well, for heavens sake add $150 over it and get something which will play those games as smooth as butter...

Wait and collect money and add over your budget go rob a bank instead buying that PC for $400, seriously if you buy that youre throwing your money into trash.

I have built something which will play the games on your account smoothly (Gmod, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, L4d2 if you have one)

Add $150 more and get these parts.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/DZD7sY

[Rove]

Publicado originalmente por skulz87:

Dude, if youre going to buy pc to play games like Gmod and Counter-Strike DO NOT GET THE PC STATED ABOVE, because youll get terrible performance youll struggle with horrible lags because it will run onboard graphics card.

You've got to be kidding me.

Garry's Mod & Counterstrike? Seriously? Check the store page specs:

Garry's Mod:
Minimum:
OS: Windows® Vista/XP/2000
Processor: 1.7 GHz Processor
Memory: 512MB RAM
Graphics: DirectX® 8.1 level Graphics Card (Requires support for SSE)
Hard Drive: 150 MB
Other Requirements: Internet Connection

Recommended:
Processor: Pentium 4 processor (3.0GHz, or better)
Memory: 1GB RAM
Graphics: DirectX® 9 level Graphics Card

Counter Strike:Global Offensive
OS: Windows® 7/Vista/XP
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6600 or AMD Phenom™ X3 8750 processor or better
Memory: 1GB XP / 2GB Vista
Hard Disk Space: At least 7.6GB of Space
Video Card: Video card must be 256 MB or more and should be a DirectX 9-compatible with support for Pixel Shader 3.0

Compare the top CPU's needed for Garry's Mod:
Pentium IV 3.0GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+4+3.00GHz
and Counter Strike: Global Offensive:
AMD Phenom x3 8750 Triple Core 2.4GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+8750+Triple-Core&id=294
with the A8-5600K APU
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A8-5600K+APU&id=1449
and you can see that it's between 12 and 2 times better than them depending on which game. The integrated graphics similarly can more than power those games.

However for other newer & more demanding or unreleased games for teh PS4 and XB1 then for that you are right you WOULD need a better graphics card, however the GTX 750 would not be enough. You would need a GTX 760 or R9 270 or better card ideally. The point of the system I built was that you could add that in as a easy upgrade later and still have the benefit of having a APU.

[skulz87]

Publicado originalmente por Rove:

Publicado originalmente por skulz87:

Dude, if youre going to buy pc to play games like Gmod and Counter-Strike DO NOT GET THE PC STATED ABOVE, because youll get terrible performance youll struggle with horrible lags because it will run onboard graphics card.

You've got to be kidding me.

Garry's Mod & Counterstrike? Seriously? Check the store page specs:

Garry's Mod:
Minimum:
OS: Windows® Vista/XP/2000
Processor: 1.7 GHz Processor
Memory: 512MB RAM
Graphics: DirectX® 8.1 level Graphics Card (Requires support for SSE)
Hard Drive: 150 MB
Other Requirements: Internet Connection

Recommended:
Processor: Pentium 4 processor (3.0GHz, or better)
Memory: 1GB RAM
Graphics: DirectX® 9 level Graphics Card

Counter Strike:Global Offensive
OS: Windows® 7/Vista/XP
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6600 or AMD Phenom™ X3 8750 processor or better
Memory: 1GB XP / 2GB Vista
Hard Disk Space: At least 7.6GB of Space
Video Card: Video card must be 256 MB or more and should be a DirectX 9-compatible with support for Pixel Shader 3.0

Compare the top CPU's needed for Garry's Mod:
Pentium IV 3.0GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+4+3.00GHz
and Counter Strike: Global Offensive:
AMD Phenom x3 8750 Triple Core 2.4GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+8750+Triple-Core&id=294
with the A8-5600K APU
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A8-5600K+APU&id=1449
and you can see that it's between 12 and 2 times better than them depending on which game. The integrated graphics similarly can more than power those games.

However for other newer & more demanding or unreleased games for teh PS4 and XB1 then for that you are right you WOULD need a better graphics card, however the GTX 750 would not be enough. You would need a GTX 760 or R9 270 or better card ideally. The point of the system I built was that you could add that in as a easy upgrade later and still have the benefit of having a APU.

He wont be getting constant 60 FPS with that PC you built with integrated graphics card.

With my built he can play those games on max graphics settings and get constant +60 FPS, he can even play CoD4 MW1 and games like that.

I know gtx750 wont be enough for new and heavy games and I never said or claimed something like that.

However for his budget and the games he plays its enough and will deliver smooth and good gaming experience for him.

Worst mistake for gaming is picking an integrated graphics card.

[_I_]

an amd apu cannot keep up with gmod, unless you turn off all settings and do not build anything

[skulz87]

Publicado originalmente por _I_:

an amd apu cannot keep up with gmod, unless you turn off all settings and do not build anything

Exactly, not only gmod but with CSGO, TF2 too, especially on screen 1366x768 and above.

No matter what it will deliver horrible performance for gaming.

[Rove]

Well it's the best I can see him doing for $400 AUD.

I agree though it would be great for him to have a proper gaming graphics card in there.

That would however add $200 or more to the price even for the cheapest such card the R9 270, while the R9 270X and GTX 760 cost even more. So I would suggest to keep it in mind for a future upgrade and at least enjoy what he can afford now.

It will play DoTA2 just fine at 1920*1080, I can even do that on a A4-5300 dual core.

Edit:
I'm also sure it will be more than fine for Garry's Mod and CS:GO, CS:GO is the more demanding of the 2 according to the spec sheets. While CS:GO PC specs do not say which graphics cards are recommended the Mac specs do say this, for AMD cards the minimum was the HD 2400.

The HD 2400 does only 42 GFLOPS. The 7560D iGPU in the A8-5600K meanwhile does 389 GFLOPS. It also has much more pixel & texel fillrate as well as memory bandwidth.

In short it is multiple times better than the minimum Valve recommends for CS:GO.

[_I_]

with an amd cpu on gmod
stack more than 5 matresses and it will struggle due to lackigng cpu speed, not gpu strength

source games: cs:go, tf2, portal1/2, l4d1/2 only use 2 cores
(they can be split to more threads but often causes other problems)
an i3 or pentium g will offer better due to faster cores (core performacne)

[skulz87]

Spec sheets only say you can run the game, it doesnt mention how good youll run the game.

[Rove]

I think your knowledge of Source Engine is outdated?

DoTA2 on A4-5300 @ 1920*1080 maxed settings works and is playable.

This is I think the newest and most demanding Source Engine game to date?

[Kate]

Publicado originalmente por skulz87:

Spec sheets only say you can run the game, it doesnt mention how good youll run the game.

Well it's not really fair for you to add almost 200$ to a 400$ build and go "this is much better!" well duh, it's much more expensive. Rove's build really is one of the best you can get for the price the OP gave, which is what we should be discussing.

If you're going to suggest a build that's 1.5x times his budget, at least also give him one that's around his budget. I agree he should save up more, but maybe he really can't.

Also, along with the daily "AMD sucks" and "it's impossible to play [some game] on an AMD APU" misinformation, here's a video of someone playing CS:GO on an AMD apu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ro8c8szx8 (over 40 FPS) and this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTIHe8rvEHo (around 50).
Magic.

Also CS:GO actually uses 4 threads.