What the F is wrong with my PC?!!!!
So i am playing CS:S, and my framerate drops to as low as 30?!! The computer also gets really hot on top where the cpu is, it should not be like this since i just recently installed my new cooler master hyper 212 evo. My frame rate is bad in everything i play be it low settings or high, that does not matter. My specs are: GPU: Asus GTX 760 Directcu II

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3,4 Ghz

MOBO: ASRock FM2A88M Extreme 4+ mATX

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB 1600mhz (4x4 GB)

HDD: 1 TB WD Blue 7200rpm

PSU: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze

Something is very wrong with my pc, why is it peforming so bad all of a sudden?! and yes i have the latest drivers installed so it's not that, tommorow i will open my pc up and rebuild it all over again. Any suggestions on how to fix this otherwise?
Legutóbb szerkesztette: The Punisher; 2014. aug. 11., 14:13
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Have you been monitoring temps while playing?

I always keep HWmonitor running in the background.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: SHON; 2014. aug. 11., 14:23
BOOMY eredeti hozzászólása:
Have you been monitoring temps while playing?

I always keep HWmonitor running in the background.
My cpu is 58c when playing, and my gpu is 60, however, it should not be so high because like i said, i upgraded my cpu fan to a Fing Cooler master hyper 212 evo.
xXTheGamingKamiXx™ eredeti hozzászólása:
The computer also gets really hot on top where the cpu is
xXTheGamingKamiXx™ eredeti hozzászólása:
i just recently installed my new cooler master hyper 212 evo,
You installed the CPU cooler wrong. Ensure it's installed correctly.
possibility of improper installation: no thermal paste, too little thermal paste, cpu cooler not fully seated, cpu cooler fan not plugged to motherboard header.

monitoring temperatures of the processor, gpu.

check if chassis fans are still connected, video card (6+2 pins?) power connection?
It sounds like (as others said) you may have notinstalled the cooler properly?

The reason the FPS is dropping is the CPU is throttling itself as to not burn itself out...
Thermal Paste is applied differently depending on your CPU type.
Never mere it on, air bubbles, or get finger prints / dust, etc.

For example:

Intel i7 CPU has 4 cores, therefore a line of thermal paste should be done across the middle, inbetween those cores, so that when the heatsink is placed on top it is flattened without air pockets as a thin layer oval directing the heat away.

Your AMD CPU on the other hand should just require a dot in the middle. Again it's when the heatsink is placed on top, rotate it just slightly left and right before clamping down and ensure it's locked/latched in place with no gaps. It should flatten down as a circle.

So double check with your CPU type when applying thermal paste. I personally recommend using Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste, but some coolers come pre-applied. If you require removal of old paste, use high-level 70% or greater isopropyl alcohol on lint-free pads to wipe clean. Ensure it's well cleaned and dust/hair/mark free before any reapplying. There should be no gaps / air bubbles created inbetween.

Once the heatsink has been placed on the CPU with the thermal paste inbetween, don't raise it up again... as this can allow for air bubbles to get inbetween.

Also ensure stand-off screws are positioned correctly if required for your CPU/Motherboard type and the coolers backplate has been fastened flat at the rear of the motherboard.

Ensure the fans are directed to push the air through one side and out the other (back) of the heatsink. All fans are powered and spinning when on. PC case airflow is correctly flowing in the right directions and not creating any hot pockets inside the case.

Keep the PC case itself, away from any walls/corners. So it's well-ventilated. Once the hot air is outside of the case, it needs to rise up or be directed away, rather than hanging around the back or being fed back inside.

Finally, most thermal pastes have a break-in period. Run the system as normal, without too much pressure or any overclocking. Starting up and shut down as normal. This will heat/cool that new thermal paste over time explaining a little more then relaxing it into full contact. CPU temperature can drop up to an extra 10 degrees over a 48 hour period of usage.

I would suggest with a cooling system like that to focus around 50 degrees mark. Set a BIOS temperature warning for over 75 degrees. Monitor it over time to see if that temperature is stable or rising over time and usage?
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Azza ☠; 2014. aug. 11., 15:17
As some other say... make sure that cooler is installed correct.
So that's what i did wrong, i accidentally spilled my thermal paste all over the cpu and i thought that was ok. what should i do now, buy new thermal paste and do it all over again? and thanks to all of you who replied!
^Put on a pair of rubber gloves, take a paper towel, dab it with some Finger Nail Polish Remover and then gently wipe away the excess thermal paste until it is clean.

Then, reapply a new coat of thermal paste; Just a medium sized drop right in the center of the CPU and spread it around lightly with one finger while still wearing rubber gloves. Then put the CPU Cooler on and the copper heatsink will hopefully "bond" to it for a better fit this time.
If your using nail polish remover, you better be sure it's acetone based...

I would personally use 70% or greater isopropyl alcohol - higher the better... it will quickly evaporate and leave no liquid behind. If you don't have any - you can get a pack of Alcohol Prep Swab/Pads, from the pharmacy chemist normally used for medical purposes. However, these work great - as the pad is lint-free and preloaded with the alcohol ready to go. First remove any excess thermal paste with an old credit card or edge of soft plastic - as not to scratch. Then for the rest - Wipe with alcohol pad, rotate or fold the pad, and keep wiping with clean areas of the pad. Wipe with single outward srokes. Discard pad and grab another if required, until 100% clean.

Purchase Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste, if you require from the computer store. It comes in an injection tube. Apply just a rice size dot in the middle of the CPU and clamp down the heatsink on top - it should spead itself with just a few degrees rotates each direction. Then lock in place. You can move around a bit to position, but don't life it up. It should end up a thin layer, without any gaps or air.

Run the system as normal usage (no overclocking or extremely heavy load) for the break-in period.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Azza ☠; 2014. aug. 11., 22:28
Azza ☠ eredeti hozzászólása:
If your using nail polish remover, you better be sure it's acetone based...
I was just going to mention this. As you said though, good ol' rubbing alcohol is the best bet. 90% is my preferred solution.

The only other thing I would suggest is using a paper coffee filter. They don't leave lint behind.
Azza ☠ eredeti hozzászólása:
If your using nail polish remover, you better be sure it's acetone based...

I would personally use 70% or greater isopropyl alcohol - higher the better... it will quickly evaporate and leave no liquid behind. If you don't have any - you can get a pack of Alcohol Prep Swab/Pads, from the pharmacy chemist normally used for medical purposes. However, these work great - as the pad is lint-free and preloaded with the alcohol ready to go. First remove any excess thermal paste with an old credit card or edge of soft plastic - as not to scratch. Then for the rest - Wipe with alcohol pad, rotate or fold the pad, and keep wiping with clean areas of the pad. Wipe with single outward srokes. Discard pad and grab another if required, until 100% clean.

Purchase Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste, if you require from the computer store. It comes in an injection tube. Apply just a rice size dot in the middle of the CPU and clamp down the heatsink on top - it should spead itself with just a few degrees rotates each direction. Then lock in place. You can move around a bit to position, but don't life it up. It should end up a thin layer, without any gaps or air.

Run the system as normal usage (no overclocking or extremely heavy load) for the break-in period.
Thanks, i will do this!
There's some very good detailed instructions and tips on their site as well.

Simply find your CPU from the List:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/methods.html
Azza ☠ eredeti hozzászólása:
There's some very good detailed instructions and tips on their site as well.

Simply find your CPU from the List:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/methods.html
So i bought the silver artic 5 thermalpaste and did everything it said on the site, i still get 40c on idle... ;(

Even my gpu is 40c idle now, why is this happening???
Legutóbb szerkesztette: rotNdude; 2014. aug. 15., 7:39
ambient temperature?

gpu at 40c is good.
cpu at 40c is good.
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